At Least a Dozen Domestic Terrorists Teaching at American Colleges

Can't believe we're letting this slide. 

This is like Osama is teaching a calculus class, wtf.

If you would like to see them held accountable, well give up now. Universities are too busy trying to chase away the heretics...

Thanks Obama. 

Yup, totally equal to Osama teaching here. :lol:

Lol at fox news and lol at dumb TC.

She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

Aljosa23

Good ole Faux News.LAN7ERN

lol fox newsRich3232

Fox Nation is simply a news aggregation website, like Drudge Report. The actual story is linked to a separate website. 

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She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

kingkong0124

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She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

Aljosa23

I fail to see the issue here.

lol, i just spent the weekend with my folks for mothers day and it was all, obamas a muslim this and they are comin for yer guns that and oh lawdy lawdy the rapture is upon us cuz of the wicked ol world oh lawdy lawdy praise him!"

thanks fox.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] they should not be teaching to the future of America...you wouldn't want a ex-convict teaching your child's high school class now would you? kingkong0124

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] they should not be teaching to the future of America...you wouldn't want a ex-convict teaching your child's high school class now would you? kingkong0124

"For the most part, Kathy Boudin, Adjunct Assistant Professor at the Columbia School of Social Work, has an exceptional resume.  She has a Masters degree in adult education and literacy, an Ed.D. from Columbia Teachers College, and is the current Rose Sheinberg scholar in residence at NYU Law School.  She has published numerous books and scholarly articles, including one in the Harvard Educational Review, and in 1999 she was awarded an international PEN prize for her poetry.  Boudins credentials would be acceptable, if not distinguished, at any elite university, if not for one extraordinary disclaimer."

She seems definitely good for it. Unless you can find an actual reason besides "she's a terrorist" (which isn't even correct anymore) this thread is dumb.

kk how do you feel about former porn stars working as teachers?

[QUOTE="LAN7ERN"]Good ole Faux News.kingkong0124

lol fox newsRich3232

Fox Nation is simply a news aggregation website, like Drudge Report. The actual story is linked to a separate website. 

And the actual story is a "guest blog" on a site called "The Other McCain".

Though I wouldn't actually be surprised if it's accurate, I would still take this news with a massive handful of salt.

One of the guys in that list was arrested for civil disobedience at a protest on the Columbia campus and for a bar fight. He was associated with a group but then left. I don't even think you can remotely put him and some of the others in the same category as Osama.

Your statement "this is like Osama is teaching a calculus class, wtf." makes me question whether you actually read anything about the people.

Unless you can find an actual reason besides "she's a terrorist" (which isn't even correct anymore) this thread is dumb.

Aljosa23

Boudin was convicted in a robbery that left two police officers dead in 1981. That's not cool. 

kk how do you feel about former porn stars working as teachers?

Aljosa23

Not a good role model for the future women of America. 

lol, i just spent the weekend with my folks for mothers day and it was all, obamas a muslim this and they are comin for yer guns that and oh lawdy lawdy the rapture is upon us cuz of the wicked ol world oh lawdy lawdy praise him!"

thanks fox.

Riverwolf007

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Boudin was convicted in a robbery that left two police officers dead in 1981. That's not cool. 

kingkong0124

Calling a bank robbery "terrorism" is exactly the kind of overuseage that strips the term of all meaning.

Your statement "this is like Osama is teaching a calculus class, wtf." makes me question whether you actually read anything about the people.

NEWMAHAY

It's kingkong, what do you expect?

Calling a bank robbery "terrorism" is exactly the kind of overuseage that strips the term of all meaning.

worlock77

Also, yes.

Calling a bank robbery "terrorism" is exactly the kind of overuseage that strips the term of all meaning.worlock77

Well it wasn't quite JUST a bank robbery. The motive is what is in question. She was a member of the Weather Underground Organization, which was in fact a terrorist organization. Her participation in the bank robbery was just one of the actions organized by that group, which included bombing the Pentagon, the US Capitol, and many other locations. There were also many other attempted bombings, such as the attempted bombing of a US Senator's office in the early 80s, and an earlier attempted bombing of a group of US Soldiers at a social gathering. It was the latter attempt in which she almost died when the nail bomb they were constructing detonated prematurely, killing several of those involved, but leaving her with only injuries.

I am surprised in all honesty that she went to prison over what she did. There were many in the Weather Underground that did worse than she, but did not go to prison. The main reason for this is that the Government was forced to drop charges against most of the "Weathermen" due to a Supreme Court decision that barred electronic surveillance without a court order. Since that was used heavily for the investigation leading up to their arrests, all charges had to be dropped. Most of those who went to prison did so for actions that were perpetrated after that decision, not before.

another award winning fox news story linking to an overblown blog

[QUOTE="worlock77"]Calling a bank robbery "terrorism" is exactly the kind of overuseage that strips the term of all meaning.m0zart

Well it wasn't quite JUST a bank robbery. The motive is what is in question. She was a member of the Weather Underground Organization, which was in fact a terrorist organization. Her participation in the bank robbery was just one of the actions organized by that group, which included bombing the Pentagon, the US Capitol, and many other locations.

I'm aware of what the Weathermen were.

The world terrorist didn't have a stigma on it prior to 911. Terrorist = freedom fighter Fightingfan

Sure it did. I came from that time, and I can't remember a time when "terrorist" didn't have a stigma attached to it. We have to remember that news reports were filled for years with the stories of terrorists hijacking planes and murdering passengers in bids to get their demands met.

The only thing 9/11 did was introduce Americans to the idea that foreign terrorism could happen on a larger scale right here on US soil. Domestic terrorism was relatively rare, but it did occur and always had a stigma associated with it.

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She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

kingkong0124

Some low life straight out of jail? No... But an educated scholar who committed a crime while a radical teenager during a radical time and has since amended her ways and served her punishment and is as of now deemed worthy by one of the premier universities in the country... No I wouldn't mind her teaching my child.

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She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

kingkong0124

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]Calling a bank robbery "terrorism" is exactly the kind of overuseage that strips the term of all meaning.worlock77

Well it wasn't quite JUST a bank robbery. The motive is what is in question. She was a member of the Weather Underground Organization, which was in fact a terrorist organization. Her participation in the bank robbery was just one of the actions organized by that group, which included bombing the Pentagon, the US Capitol, and many other locations.

I'm aware of what the Weathermen were.

Good. The armed robbery wasn't the usual bank robbery for the sake of stuffing their coffers with cash. It was admitted by them that it was intended to fund other operations they were actively planning.

I don't think it's the least bit controversial to call Kathy Boudin a terrorist, even if only for the armed robbery, but certainly that wasn't the only reason she could be called a terrorist.

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She was convicted and did her time. Why does this matter? Do you think ex convicts shouldn't try to live normal lives?

Squeets

Some low life straight out of jail? No... But an educated scholar who committed a crime while a radical teenager during a radical time and has since amended her ways and served her punishment and is as of now deemed worthy by one of the premier universities in the country... No I wouldn't mind her teaching my child.

She was 38 years old when she committed that crime, and 41 when convicted.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] they should not be teaching to the future of America...you wouldn't want a ex-convict teaching your child's high school class now would you? m0zart

Some low life straight out of jail? No... But an educated scholar who committed a crime while a radical teenager during a radical time and has since amended her ways and served her punishment and is as of now deemed worthy by one of the premier universities in the country... No I wouldn't mind her teaching my child.

She was 38 years old when she committed that crime, and 41 when convicted.

Lol. Radical teenager indeed.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] they should not be teaching to the future of America...you wouldn't want a ex-convict teaching your child's high school class now would you? m0zart

Some low life straight out of jail? No... But an educated scholar who committed a crime while a radical teenager during a radical time and has since amended her ways and served her punishment and is as of now deemed worthy by one of the premier universities in the country... No I wouldn't mind her teaching my child.

She was 38 years old when she committed that crime, and 41 when convicted.

Doesn't change anything really.

She didn't shoot anyone, she was simply party to the crime.  She agreed to the bank robbery under the auspice that no one would be hurt other than "the man," but once in there and someone else kills someone, doesn't matter how nonviolent she was, she was as guilty as them under our law.

Like I said, radical times... Have you seen the new Robert Redford movie relating to this? Pretty good.

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Well it wasn't quite JUST a bank robbery. The motive is what is in question. She was a member of the Weather Underground Organization, which was in fact a terrorist organization. Her participation in the bank robbery was just one of the actions organized by that group, which included bombing the Pentagon, the US Capitol, and many other locations.m0zart

I'm aware of what the Weathermen were.

Good. The armed robbery wasn't the usual bank robbery for the sake of stuffing their coffers with cash. It was admitted by them that it was intended to fund other operations they were actively planning.

I don't think it's the least bit controversial to call Kathy Boudin a terrorist, even if only for the armed robbery, but certainly that wasn't the only reason she could be called a terrorist.

I've never seen anything that suggested that the robbery (which was actually of a Brinks truck, not a bank) was anything other than a cash grab. Could have been I'll admit, but I've not read that it was.

Doesn't change anything really.

She didn't shoot anyone, she was simply party to the crime. She agreed to the bank robbery under the auspice that no one would be hurt other than "the man," but once in there and someone else kills someone, doesn't matter how nonviolent she was, she was as guilty as them under our law.

Like I said, radical times... Have you seen the new Robert Redford movie relating to this? Pretty good.

Squeets

Eh, I don't think "radical times" is really ever an excuse to target what are effectively innocent people. That excuse actually doesn't change anything in the long run. Getting the officials to drop their weapons so that six men can jump out and shoot them doesn't seem like a random incident to me, but just an execution of part of a plan.

In any case, I don't know if I care that she teaches at a University. People change and I haven't kept up with her enough to know if she has. She is on parole right now, which means at the very least that a parole board thinks she is ready to live responsibly within our society. Teaching at a University couldn't be any worse a risk than working in the health field (which she apparently did). Having said that, I don't believe it is or should be at all controversial to refer to this woman as a terrorist for her past activities, all of which she did willingly and without duress. A more constructive debate, IMO, would center on whether a terrorist can change and can be trusted with these sorts of responsibilities after going through the penal system.

A kingkong thread linking to FoxNation, not citing any real sources. This wreaks of inaccuracy.

Rofl "former domestic terrorists". They've already been punished by the legal system, there's no point heaping even more trouble on them than they've gotten.

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Boudin was convicted in a robbery that left two police officers dead in 1981. That's not cool.

Aljosa23

i don't even think she should be out of prison, let alone work at a university.

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Boudin was convicted in a robbery that left two police officers dead in 1981. That's not cool.

frannkzappa

i don't even think she should be out of prison, let alone work at a university.

Too bad.

i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

frannkzappa

i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

 

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

frannkzappa

Ja mein Fuhrer.

i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

 

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

frannkzappa

Yeah, except we have these things called "rights". It's kind of what our society is based on. Also, how is permanent removal a "solution"? What exactly does it solve? How to blow even more money on incarceration or how to destroy any legitimacy of the constitution? Anyway, these people did their time, so I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to teach. Firing them would only stigmatize them further and make it more likely they would go back to criminal activity.

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i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

worlock77

Ja mein Fuhrer.

There's a difference between correctly dealing with violent criminals and genocide of innocent contributors to society.

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i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

Fightingfan

i only have this view on VIOLENT crime. drug crime is a different thing entirely.

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i don't understand how some can support some of the people on that list. they committed violent crimes and should not be allowed to participate in society ever again.

 

there is no such thing as "paying your debt to society". the only solution is permanent removal.

frannkzappa

Ja mein Fuhrer.

There's a difference between correctly dealing with violent criminals and genocide of innocent contributors to society.

Who said anything about genocide?