At Wrestlemania, will it be 17-1 or 18-0?

Will the Undertaker's undefeated wrestlemania streak finally be ended by Shawn Michaels this month?

I'd say yes because if there's anyone that Undertaker would be proud to lose to at wrestlemania, that would be to Shawn Michaels.

whoever the people who run that thing want to win, that is who will win.

18 - 0 IMO.

Is much more easy for WWE to arrenge a return for HBK than a broken legendary record.

whoever the people who run that thing want to win, that is who will win.

needled24-7

its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Whaaaaaa???? :shock:

whoever the people who run that thing want to win, that is who will win.

needled24-7

its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

Good God he has been around for a long time...I had no idearawsavon

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Good God he has been around for a long time...I had no ideaOntain

I don't feel takers record should be tarnished. I would hope it stays 18-0 unless he's retiring full time this year and this is his last wrestlemania....which has been said before.

its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Just like reality TV and movies. And those seem pretty popular.

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. madsnakehhh

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

Taker will probably win, it'll be a good match, but they don't want a superstar with an almost perfect record

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. Brainkiller05

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]Good God he has been around for a long time...I had no idearawsavon

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Ontain"] it's actually sad to watch him now. I remember him being pretty cool back in the day. but now you can see that he's got bad knees and can't do a lot of the things he used to well anymore.MoonMarvel

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Ontain"] it's actually sad to watch him now. I remember him being pretty cool back in the day. but now you can see that he's got bad knees and can't do a lot of the things he used to well anymore.MoonMarvel

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. madsnakehhh

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

Because its a bunch of steroids injecting muscle men in tight spandex, and women with huge racks falling out pretending to hit one another.. You can't even call it wrestling because they do nothing for that real sport... While pandering to a crowd with soap opera and hilariously bad macho lines..

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I have not seen it since the Rock vs Stone Cold Days -he was not a major part of that era...still big, but not the headliner...he looked old even then...I can only imagine nowY2Jfan23

Undertaker is booked through June, Michaels is not after WM26. Michaels has said numerous times he wants time off and "has been seriously considering retirement for the past three years." He has also been quoted as saying he wants to spend more time with his kids now that they are young. It is undeniable that "the streak" brings in a lot of customers for the pay-per-view event. Having the Undertaker win would continually draw a crowd at the next WM venue.

The fact that Michaels has not been booked doesn't necessarily mean a loss at WM though. WWE could conjure up a kayfabe injury which would require a long absence to heal (thus giving him his desired time off). This is somewhat consistent with the recent announcement that their match could only be determined by pinfall or submission - an invitation for a no-holds barred event and an available angle to purse the victorious-but-injured storyline.

It kind of boils down to this - what is the function of "the streak?" I see two possibilities: to put someone over or to get viewers.

A win against The Undertaker at WM will put anyone over, instantaneously. Michaels does not need to be put over. Guaranteed loss for Michaels? Well, given that the Undertaker has been in the business so long, I think it is fair to say he will call it quits soon. How many WM matches does he have left in him? I don't think the company has anyone who is currently awaiting a push of that magnitude. All of the main-eventers are pretty much set and no mid-carder has that main-event status just yet (which is determined not only by in-ring ability, but mic skills - it is entertainment afterall). So, will you wait until someone is worthy of a push to end the streak? Can the Undertaker last that long? If a legend loses to a legend that is more "forgiveable" or "acceptable" to fans I think, especially since they are both nearing retirement. Think of the enormous pressure someone who ended the streak would have on his shoulders.

Then there is the possibility that the streak was always intended to attract viewers, in which case, a win for the Undertaker is the logical choice. The streak is intimately related with the Undertaker's gimmick after all. Perhaps the role of this character was to attract viewers to WM and nothing more.

Hall looks terrible and can barely say his lines and Flair looks like he is about to have a heartattack everytime he speaks. If you actually watch his matches you see how Taker is the greatest big man ever, he is agile and strong. He shows great mat work, even UFC wanted him to come in. And no, his biker gimmick was bland as hell and he started blend in.MoonMarvel

wow seems like everyone is pulling for the undertaker...including me :D

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Hall looks terrible and can barely say his lines and Flair looks like he is about to have a heartattack everytime he speaks. If you actually watch his matches you see how Taker is the greatest big man ever, he is agile and strong. He shows great mat work, even UFC wanted him to come in. And no, his biker gimmick was bland as hell and he started blend in.Ontain

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Hall looks terrible and can barely say his lines and Flair looks like he is about to have a heartattack everytime he speaks. If you actually watch his matches you see how Taker is the greatest big man ever, he is agile and strong. He shows great mat work, even UFC wanted him to come in. And no, his biker gimmick was bland as hell and he started blend in.Ontain

They should make a senior citizens league..

When it comes to big man wrestlers Bam Bam, Vader, Kevin Nash, Sid and Big Show would be my top 5. Bam Bam being the best in ring big man and the others having the presence, awesomeness and best promo cutters. Never cared for Taker at all. His promos as the zombie character are always so cheesy and his entrance always puts me to sleep. I did like him as the biker though cause he cut better promos and was more involved in the show but as the living dead I hate him.Y2Jfan23

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Hall looks terrible and can barely say his lines and Flair looks like he is about to have a heartattack everytime he speaks. If you actually watch his matches you see how Taker is the greatest big man ever, he is agile and strong. He shows great mat work, even UFC wanted him to come in. And no, his biker gimmick was bland as hell and he started blend in.sSubZerOo

They should make a senior citizens league..

Also Psycho Sid was kinda cool.MoonMarvel

That reminds me of this...watch at your own risk

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Also Psycho Sid was kinda cool.

That reminds me of this...watch at your own risk

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Also Psycho Sid was kinda cool.rawsavon

That reminds me of this...watch at your own risk

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Also Psycho Sid was kinda cool.

That reminds me of this...watch at your own risk

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Mick Foley is "Senior Ass-Kicker" on The Daily Show, where he basically makes wrestling promo-esque commentary. :lol:

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. madsnakehhh

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

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its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

"Putting" Shawn Michaels' career on the line is just a swerve to make people believe Undertaker might actually lose.

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

I dont know what the problem is, during every show WWE very clearly says that this is just entertainment and the wrestlers have practiced years to perform the moves as safely as possible...

its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

As for the Deadman--18-0!

Dracula68

its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Fuhgeddabouditt = fail. it's not fake, it's a script. idiots say "oh it's fake" while people that actually know what they're talking about say it's entertainment.just in case you didn't notice, people don't go say a movie and say OMFG THIS IS FAKE AND THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM ALREADY DECIDED WHAT HAPPENS SO I CAN'T WATCH THIS!!! people watch it for entertainment. losers pretend that it's actually real moves. what you see is real, it's just the moves don't actually hurt as much as they look. sorry, I felt like ranting :P but anyway.. I have a feeling that they're going to let Undertaker win so that Shawn Michaels' fate will end up like Ric Flair's. pretty ironic lol

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. coylenintendo

Fuhgeddabouditt = fail. it's not fake, it's a script. idiots say "oh it's fake" while people that actually know what they're talking about say it's entertainment.just in case you didn't notice, people don't go say a movie and say OMFG THIS IS FAKE AND THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM ALREADY DECIDED WHAT HAPPENS SO I CAN'T WATCH THIS!!! people watch it for entertainment. losers pretend that it's actually real moves. what you see is real, it's just the moves don't actually hurt as much as they look. sorry, I felt like ranting :P but anyway.. I have a feeling that they're going to let Undertaker win so that Shawn Michaels' fate will end up like Ric Flair's. pretty ironic lol