At Wrestlemania, will it be 17-1 or 18-0?

The Undertaker is really, really getting old. If he was going against a young guy this year I just might, might think he'd lose. But he's going against HBK. So I'm picking 'Taker. As wrestling fans know, 99% of the time, when someone puts his career on the line, he's going to lose. It's just the means of allowing the wrestler to retire or start a new storyline. (Look at Mick Foley. That guy's had several "pink slip" matches and has lost all of them.)Paladin_King

What does a person youth have to do in that charade when its all pretend fighting mixed in with some drama queen lines. :|

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. coylenintendo

Fuhgeddabouditt = fail. it's not fake, it's a script. idiots say "oh it's fake" while people that actually know what they're talking about say it's entertainment.just in case you didn't notice, people don't go say a movie and say OMFG THIS IS FAKE AND THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM ALREADY DECIDED WHAT HAPPENS SO I CAN'T WATCH THIS!!! people watch it for entertainment. losers pretend that it's actually real moves. what you see is real, it's just the moves don't actually hurt as much as they look. sorry, I felt like ranting :P but anyway.. I have a feeling that they're going to let Undertaker win so that Shawn Michaels' fate will end up like Ric Flair's. pretty ironic lol

I would agree if it didn't make the United States out to be chest pounding morons.. Like I said earlier its a bunch of riped guys on steroids with women who are falling out of their shirts pretend fighting with drama queen like lines.. I mean this has more ridiculous drama then a highschool for crying out loud.

By fake, it makes a joke of what real wrestling is. The only losers I see is fans hyping Undertaker as if hes some elite fighter when hes clearly not. This event is garbage and its my opinion that wont change. I also see how it entertains people. I was once a WWE fan myself but grew out of it. Fuhgeddabouditt

Movies dont take them selves seriously as the WWE tries to do..

Fuhgeddabouditt

When exactly did a movie told you in between that "it's just a scripted movie so dont take it too seriously"?:lol:

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

By fake, it makes a joke of what real wrestling is. The only losers I see is fans hyping Undertaker as if hes some elite fighter when hes clearly not. This event is garbage and its my opinion that wont change. I also see how it entertains people. I was once a WWE fan myself but grew out of it. Gambler_3

And stunt devils for movies don't? I see little reason, its still drama queening with muscle men in tight spandex calling out out some one..

Movies dont take them selves seriously as the WWE tries to do..

Fuhgeddabouditt

When exactly did a movie told you in between that "it's just a scripted movie so dont take it too seriously"?:lol:

Except we would classify the movie under a comedy.. While this tries to be a ridiculous drama of Jerry Springer mixed American Gladiators.

Wrestling is fake, but its bloody good entertainment if you see it live. To those who bag out the WWE viewers, calm down because its what we like to watch. Its like calling episodes of Lost fake or something like that. If you really think about it, most of the crap you watch is fake.

I honestly think its gonna be 17-1 because both HBK and Undertaker are getting old, they both have families they want to be with and they both want time to themselves and persue other careers. Like Undertaker apparently has a Real Estate Company. And HBK trains up and comming wrestlers. You never know also, they both might come back before the next Wrestlemania anyway.

Hm i dont know, let me find the script and i`ll tell you about it.

To all the peeps that say the WWE is fake. When you do something that is "fake" you do NOT "really" get hurt. that is as simple as I can make it for you all.Dracula68

18-0 for 2 reasons:

Undertaker always wins at Wrestlemania.

Shawn Michaels always loses at Wrestlemania (even though his fights are always the best).

[QUOTE="coylenintendo"]

Fuhgeddabouditt = fail. it's not fake, it's a script. idiots say "oh it's fake" while people that actually know what they're talking about say it's entertainment.just in case you didn't notice, people don't go say a movie and say OMFG THIS IS FAKE AND THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM ALREADY DECIDED WHAT HAPPENS SO I CAN'T WATCH THIS!!! people watch it for entertainment. losers pretend that it's actually real moves. what you see is real, it's just the moves don't actually hurt as much as they look. sorry, I felt like ranting :P but anyway.. I have a feeling that they're going to let Undertaker win so that Shawn Michaels' fate will end up like Ric Flair's. pretty ironic lol

Fuhgeddabouditt

WWE has main eventers making corny jokes and also has an annoying 4ft tall leprechaun making random joke sketches... you call that taking seriously?

Shawn Michaels always loses at Wrestlemania (even though his fights are always the best).

Samurai_Xavier

I haven't been keeping up with wrestling... but I hated Undertaker when he became "american bada$$" so after that I could care less about him.

I want HBK to end his winning streak.

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]its all fake and the decision has already been made. Fuhgeddabouditt

Yes it is fake...and your point is?

Wrestling is a show, an entertainment, why we couldn't discuss who we think it's gonna win, it's like discussing the next Lost Episode.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I have not seen it since the Rock vs Stone Cold Days -he was not a major part of that era...still big, but not the headliner...he looked old even then...I can only imagine nowY2Jfan23

I feel flair stopped being appealing about 30 years ago. He's really just embarassing himself now and tarnishing his legacy. Same goes for Hogan and I love Hogan.

why are WWE fans so defensive :lol: ? I mean damn, this is a thread and I posted my feelings towards the event. Sue me. Fuhgeddabouditt

Because it's really just stupid when people say "lol it's fake" like everyone doesn't know. You'd be better off telling reality TV fans that since alot of people still think reality TV is real and doesn't have a script. Everyone knows wrestling is fake. They watch it for the story and stunts and what have you. They watch it like it's an on going movie. What I like about wrestling as oppossed to movies is that there is more uncertinity on who will win. If you go see Iron Man 2 this summer you know Iron Man will beat the bad guy, get the girl, and save the world. Where as in wrestling it's not always a given that the good guy is going to win. Sometimes he loses to the bad guys.

And wrestling pretends it's real in the same way movies do. Not many movies come out at the start, have a character on camera syaing how this is all fiction. Because no ones stupid enough to think it's real.

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]why are WWE fans so defensive :lol: ? I mean damn, this is a thread and I posted my feelings towards the event. Sue me. Pixel-Pirate

Because it's really just stupid when people say "lol it's fake" like everyone doesn't know. You'd be better off telling reality TV fans that since alot of people still think reality TV is real and doesn't have a script. Everyone knows wrestling is fake. They watch it for the story and stunts and what have you. They watch it like it's an on going movie. What I like about wrestling as oppossed to movies is that there is more uncertinity on who will win. If you go see Iron Man 2 this summer you know Iron Man will beat the bad guy, get the girl, and save the world. Where as in wrestling it's not always a given that the good guy is going to win. Sometimes he loses to the bad guys.

And wrestling pretends it's real in the same way movies do. Not many movies come out at the start, have a character on camera syaing how this is all fiction. Because no ones stupid enough to think it's real.

[QUOTE="coylenintendo"]

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] By fake, it makes a joke of what real wrestling is. The only losers I see is fans hyping Undertaker as if hes some elite fighter when hes clearly not. This event is garbage and its my opinion that wont change. I also see how it entertains people. I was once a WWE fan myself but grew out of it. And lastly, Movies dont take them selves seriously as the WWE tries to do.. Fuhgeddabouditt

[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]The Undertaker is really, really getting old. If he was going against a young guy this year I just might, might think he'd lose. But he's going against HBK. So I'm picking 'Taker. As wrestling fans know, 99% of the time, when someone puts his career on the line, he's going to lose. It's just the means of allowing the wrestler to retire or start a new storyline. (Look at Mick Foley. That guy's had several "pink slip" matches and has lost all of them.)sSubZerOo

What does a person youth have to do in that charade when its all pretend fighting mixed in with some drama queen lines. :|

While I don't watch wrestling that often anymore, I used to be really interested in it. At least the athletic and business sides of it. How things are scripted, etc.

When you have an established old guy who's popular with a massive streak going, if a new "young" guy beats him he gets a massive "rub." Basically, his popularity and marketability skyrockets. Essentially, the guy to beat the Undertaker means he's the next guy the WWE is going to promote, or "push," like crazy.

So no, I'm not an idiot. I'm not saying youth is a factor in actually winning an athletic contest here. Youth just means it's a new guy. If an already established wrestler beats the Undertaker, it does jack-all for the WWE since an established guy is already established. If a young, unestablished guy beats him, he becomes established. Wrestling is interesting if you're able to grasp what's going on behind the scenes and all the admittedly terrible acting.

Things will probably go to 18-0 and Shawn will take some time off and then come out of retirement ...

Undertaker wins by Tombstone. then out of nowhere Vicera comes and hugs him.Nifty_Shark

Vince Russo?

I hope it is 18-0 but I really don't see HBK loosing again. This is the most exciting thing the WWE has right now.

UNDERTAKER! *clap clap clap* UNDERTAKER!

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]why are WWE fans so defensive :lol: ? I mean damn, this is a thread and I posted my feelings towards the event. Sue me. Pixel-Pirate

Because it's really just stupid when people say "lol it's fake" like everyone doesn't know. You'd be better off telling reality TV fans that since alot of people still think reality TV is real and doesn't have a script. Everyone knows wrestling is fake. They watch it for the story and stunts and what have you. They watch it like it's an on going movie. What I like about wrestling as oppossed to movies is that there is more uncertinity on who will win. If you go see Iron Man 2 this summer you know Iron Man will beat the bad guy, get the girl, and save the world. Where as in wrestling it's not always a given that the good guy is going to win. Sometimes he loses to the bad guys.

And wrestling pretends it's real in the same way movies do. Not many movies come out at the start, have a character on camera syaing how this is all fiction. Because no ones stupid enough to think it's real.

There's no way that Taker is gonna lose. I'm thinking of ordering it just for that match lol.Allicrombie

By fake, it makes a joke of what real wrestling is. The only losers I see is fans hyping Undertaker as if hes some elite fighter when hes clearly not. This event is garbage and its my opinion that wont change. I also see how it entertains people. I was once a WWE fan myself but grew out of it. And lastly, Movies dont take them selves seriously as the WWE tries to do.. Fuhgeddabouditt

I hate to seem like a defensive wrestling fan here, but whatever. I know this is late but I couldn't help but reply to this. People saying WWE is pretending to be real, and it takes itself seriously? You couldn't be more wrong - clear example of ignorance. The WWE has leprechauns running around and The Undertaker is dead. You really think the WWE want people to genuinely believe that? Watching the WWE is no different, at all, from watching a movie. The fights in movies are scripted and choreographed more than the matches in the WWE, yet in the WWE there's a problem with it. Nobody (other than kids who also believe in Santa) believes that what they see in pro wrestling is "real". As for Undertakers streak not being worth anything, so why talk about it? Well that's the same as discussing what will happen on the next episode of your favourite TV show.

Particularly with the growth of MMA, I really don't think very many people are confusing WWE with Greco-Roman/freestyle/collegiate wrestling. Unless they're morons.Paladin_King

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

By fake, it makes a joke of what real wrestling is. The only losers I see is fans hyping Undertaker as if hes some elite fighter when hes clearly not. This event is garbage and its my opinion that wont change. I also see how it entertains people. I was once a WWE fan myself but grew out of it. And lastly, Movies dont take them selves seriously as the WWE tries to do..

I hate to seem like a defensive wrestling fan here, but whatever. I know this is late but I couldn't help but reply to this. People saying WWE is pretending to be real, and it takes itself seriously? You couldn't be more wrong - clear example of ignorance. The WWE has leprechauns running around and The Undertaker is dead. You really think the WWE want people to genuinely believe that? Watching the WWE is no different, at all, from watching a movie. The fights in movies are scripted and choreographed more than the matches in the WWE, yet in the WWE there's a problem with it. Nobody (other than kids who also believe in Santa) believes that what they see in pro wrestling is "real". As for Undertakers streak not being worth anything, so why talk about it? Well that's the same as discussing what will happen on the next episode of your favourite TV show.

[QUOTE="Dracula68"]To all the peeps that say the WWE is fake. When you do something that is "fake" you do NOT "really" get hurt. that is as simple as I can make it for you all.BlueLagoonFarts

[QUOTE="BlueLagoonFarts"]

[QUOTE="Dracula68"]To all the peeps that say the WWE is fake. When you do something that is "fake" you do NOT "really" get hurt. that is as simple as I can make it for you all.Dracula68

[QUOTE="Dracula68"][QUOTE="BlueLagoonFarts"]WWE is fake... noone ever said some of the moves werent real.

Bitter_Altmer

[QUOTE="Dracula68"][QUOTE="BlueLagoonFarts"]WWE is fake... noone ever said some of the moves werent real.

Bitter_Altmer