Atheism is stupid (The fact it's a religion)

[QUOTE="Harkat95"]It's not hard to google this and get definitions, you know. Atheism is THE LACK OF BELIEF IN A GOD. That is it. By saying atheism is stupid you are saying that the lack of belief in a god is stupid, and since you said yourself that you do not believe in a god, you are saying your own belief is stupid.theone86

I really dislike classifying atheism as such, technically then a child might be atheist, someone who hasn't been exposed to religion in youth is atheist. Personally, I arrived at the views that I hold now through introspection and contemplation same as anyone who found religion after not being born into it, I expect my belief system to hold just as much credibility and respect as anyone else's.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Harkat95"]It's not hard to google this and get definitions, you know. Atheism is THE LACK OF BELIEF IN A GOD. That is it. By saying atheism is stupid you are saying that the lack of belief in a god is stupid, and since you said yourself that you do not believe in a god, you are saying your own belief is stupid.Harkat95

I really dislike classifying atheism as such, technically then a child might be atheist, someone who hasn't been exposed to religion in youth is atheist. Personally, I arrived at the views that I hold now through introspection and contemplation same as anyone who found religion after not being born into it, I expect my belief system to hold just as much credibility and respect as anyone else's.

To say that we're born atheists, though, is also an implication that cannot be proven. Though I find the opposite implication quite dubious, I am not saying it is impossible. Scientifically speaking, yes not believing in something is the default position, but science only takes into account what our sense experience can account for and to say that what our sense experience can account for is unquestionably all that exists is faulty. I would say, rather, that agnosticism is the default position as we are all born without a developed opinion on the matter; once we develop into atheism or theism we have gone beyond our default position.

I'll just respond to the title... because I can't make sense of the OP.

Anyways, atheism is not a religion. It is the lack of belief in God, gods and the supernatural, and it is a rejection of theist claims. Technically, as long as an atheist doesn't claim "God most certainly does not exist" they don't "believe" in anything (regarding the supernatural).

Atheism isn't a religion, it's the lack of a belief in a god and arguably the default position.

Atheism is the refusal to worship a deity which is the complete opposite of religion.

I'll just respond to the title... because I can't make sense of the OP.

Anyways, atheism is not a religion. It is the lack of belief in God, gods and the supernatural, and it is a rejection of theist claims. Technically, as long as an atheist doesn't claim "God most certainly does not exist" they don't "believe" in anything (regarding the supernatural).

foxhound_fox

I can accept that definition, it implies some level of conscious participation in the matter. I agree that it's not a religion in the sense that religion generally tries to generate a consensus of doctrine and most atheists don't do that, but I do insist on calling it a set of beliefs, philosophical claim, an ontological position, etc.

I can accept that definition, it implies some level of conscious participation in the matter. I agree that it's not a religion in the sense that religion generally tries to generate a consensus of doctrine and most atheists don't do that, but I do insist on calling it a set of beliefs, philosophical claim, an ontological position, etc.theone86

[QUOTE="theone86"]I can accept that definition, it implies some level of conscious participation in the matter. I agree that it's not a religion in the sense that religion generally tries to generate a consensus of doctrine and most atheists don't do that, but I do insist on calling it a set of beliefs, philosophical claim, an ontological position, etc.foxhound_fox

Isn't a position awaiting further evidence the same thing as a claim?

I wouldn't call atheism simply acknlowledging the fact that there isn't enough evidence to prove god's existence, I would call it an affirmation of god's non-existence. An agnostic theist could affirm the lack of proof for god's existence, that doesn't make him/her an atheist.

I don't think atheism is much of a religion, but agnosticism certainly lacked more religious qualities than atheism. Agnostics hold absolutely no belief (and leave possibilities open), while atheists actively believe in no God.Acemaster27

It's not that agnostics hold no beliefs, it's that agnostics make no claim to positive knowledge.

Can religous topics please get their own forum so I don't have to see these every 5 seconds?

Can religous topics please get their own forum so I don't have to see these every 5 seconds?

DaJuicyMan

They have their own forum, it's called Off-Topic. If you don't want to see religious topics then go to some other forum like System Wa...errr, How to Gamespot.

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Can religous topics please get their own forum so I don't have to see these every 5 seconds?

They have their own forum, it's called Off-Topic. If you don't want to see religious topics then go to some other forum like System Wa...errr, How to Gamespot.

doesn't make any sense.

SkyWard20

Can religous topics please get their own forum so I don't have to see these every 5 seconds?

DaJuicyMan

what he mean is Athiest ar getting more hostilehippiesanta

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Can religous topics please get their own forum so I don't have to see these every 5 seconds?

DaJuicyMan

They have their own forum, it's called Off-Topic. If you don't want to see religious topics then go to some other forum like System Wa...errr, How to Gamespot.

As opposed to what? Threads where a bunch of people tell a 13 year old who has never gone on a date before to touch her shoulder? If you don't like religion threads then don't post in them, if there are other threads you like then post in them, doing so will bump them and get them more views, or create your own topic. OT is the place for religion, politics, girl help, and a whole host of other threads whether you like it or not.

Atheism is the refusal to worship a deity which is the complete opposite of religion.

metroidprime55

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"]

Can religous topics please get their own forum so I don't have to see these every 5 seconds?

foxhound_fox

To express my displeasure. Is it that hard to figure out?

DaJuicyMan

There are atheistic religions like some forms of Buddhism and Jainism.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] There are atheistic religions like some forms of Buddhism and Jainism.foxhound_fox

Well yeah depends on how you define atheism. In the ethimological sense of the word and how many people use it is the lack of belief in any deity which coincides with some religions out there. In the somehow modern sense of it meaning a non religious person (although I an sceptical non religious people exist in the boader sense of the term) yeah then it is in conflict with any religion.

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] To express my displeasure. Is it that hard to figure out?

foxhound_fox

Religion threads. Is it really necessary to jump all over a post that points out how dumb a thread is? Seriously, what is going to be said in this thread that hasn't been said 50 times over in other religion threads?

DaJuicyMan

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]What I will argue, however, is that atheism is a belief that transitions itself into other areas of life. In other words, Atheism is also a belief can radically effect how a person answers various questions about life. In that sense, some can validly argue that atheism is an informal religion - though a religion that does not have a formal doctrine of beliefs or any set creeds.Lonelynight

people just WANT to make it a religion so that they can then try to point out some hypocrisy these religious zealots want to create to make the atheist seem loony for rejecting religion with it's claims of god, while at the same time joining a religion of no beliefs.

_R34LiTY_

Not really, I think it's more due to the fact atheist (especially on these boards) ridicule the religious for their beliefs while forgetting they themselves do not believe there is a god. No one has proof, so both points of view simply lie in faith. Atheist can spin the english language how much they want, what I have said is true and no amount of semantic word play is going to change that.

Also to the people saying that atheism is different because there is no organisation. I hope they know that there are religious/spirtual people who do not follow any religion or its customs and yet believe in a higher power.