Atheist Shut The Freak Up!!!

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.Blood-Scribe

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.ALTER_duo

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

Now your saying that atheists don't know the difference between right and wrong? or were you saying there are 2 versions of right and wrong?

There is one version of right and wrong... and also I hate the whole liberal "whats right for you, is right for YOU" crap. So if I'm a murderer, but its what I think isn't wrong, doesn't it mean I'm right?

you interpret right and wrong into what YOU yourself think they are. However you can't generalize your view as correct because most people probably will not agree.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.garrett_duffman

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

umm can you guess how wrong you are? on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 100% right, and ten being really wrong

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.ALTER_duo

Now your saying that atheists don't know the difference between right and wrong? or were you saying there are 2 versions of right and wrong?

There is one version of right and wrong... and also I hate the whole liberal "whats right for you, is right for YOU" crap. So if I'm a murderer, but its what I think isn't wrong, doesn't it mean I'm right?

you interpret right and wrong into what YOU yourself think they are. However you can't generalize your view as correct because most people probably will not agree.

Wha!?!?

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

look below man sorry for the other response my mistake, I came to my conclusion after i typed the roll up. well good night everyone! :P

EDIT: or in this case above :P

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.garrett_duffman

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

umm can you guess how wrong you are? on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 100% right, and ten being really wrong

Its your own logic I'm using though... so that means you're wrong!

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

Now your saying that atheists don't know the difference between right and wrong? or were you saying there are 2 versions of right and wrong?

There is one version of right and wrong... and also I hate the whole liberal "whats right for you, is right for YOU" crap. So if I'm a murderer, but its what I think isn't wrong, doesn't it mean I'm right?

I said this in another thread and i'll say it again.. i'm atheist and my morals are one hell of a lot better than many that go to church every damn sunday.. there are so many that use god and faith as a cover to do wrong..

I'm sorry to have another religion topic but I'm sick of Atheist's just keep on ranting. I've never scene such a people who rant so much and cant just hold there ideas to themselfs.nirvana563

I don't know where you live, but here in America we take pride in the free expression of ideas.

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

You're essentially feeding into the egos of people who despise religion by saying that. Part of the reason why so many people are throwing crap at you right now is because you're saying that everyone besides you and other followers are wrong because of a divine mandate that is meant for every last being on this Earth. That's horribly pretentious and audacious, and you're not giving anyone any lee way for their own beliefs by saying they're wrong. By that nature alone, you're essentially epitomizing what most consider to be bad in religion, the idea of absolute in right and wrong.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.garrett_duffman

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.import_fighter1

Now your saying that atheists don't know the difference between right and wrong? or were you saying there are 2 versions of right and wrong?

There is one version of right and wrong... and also I hate the whole liberal "whats right for you, is right for YOU" crap. So if I'm a murderer, but its what I think isn't wrong, doesn't it mean I'm right?

I said this in another thread and i'll say it again.. i'm atheist and my morals are one hell of a lot better than many that go to church every damn sunday.. there are so many that use god and faith as a cover to do wrong..

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.Blood-Scribe

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

umm can you guess how wrong you are? on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 100% right, and ten being really wrong

Its your own logic I'm using though... so that means you're wrong!

YOU DONT KNOW ME!!! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IM ABOUT!!! I LIVE AT THE DISTRICT LIBRARY, TRYING TO DO BETTER FOR MYSELF, BUT EVERY TIME I GET AHEAD JUST A BIT, I GET PULLED RIGHT BACK DOWN, BY YOUR SO CALLED "GOD"

just kidding, but seriously, thats not my logic, or anyones, which makes you a big 10 on my scale

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.garrett_duffman

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

umm can you guess how wrong you are? on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 100% right, and ten being really wrong

Its your own logic I'm using though... so that means you're wrong!

YOU DONT KNOW ME!!! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IM ABOUT!!! I LIVE AT THE DISTRICT LIBRARY, TRYING TO DO BETTER FOR MYSELF, BUT EVERY TIME I GET AHEAD JUST A BIT, I GET PULLED RIGHT BACK DOWN, BY YOUR SO CALLED "GOD"

just kidding, but seriously, thats not my logic, or anyones, which makes you a big 10 on my scale

Than whose logic is it?

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

Now your saying that atheists don't know the difference between right and wrong? or were you saying there are 2 versions of right and wrong?

There is one version of right and wrong... and also I hate the whole liberal "whats right for you, is right for YOU" crap. So if I'm a murderer, but its what I think isn't wrong, doesn't it mean I'm right?

I said this in another thread and i'll say it again.. i'm atheist and my morals are one hell of a lot better than many that go to church every damn sunday.. there are so many that use god and faith as a cover to do wrong..

:roll: :roll: :roll:

go ahead and roll your eyes all you want, i've seen quite a few of your posts and seen how blind you are. In your view there's just no way an atheist could possibly have good morals...

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

im pretty sure its the republican party... not liberals, it all about the rich getting richer

oh, our oil owning president wants a new house, lets raise oil and start a war to get some more oil

great idea, lets go and praise the lord because we are republicans and we believe that we are one nation under god, unlike some people who would rather give people the choice

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.Blood-Scribe

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

On a side note, do you believe in moral absolutes?

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

:roll:

Annonymous liberal "Now kids if you murder someone or steal from them, if its right for you, then its right" yeah that makes sense :roll:

umm can you guess how wrong you are? on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 100% right, and ten being really wrong

Its your own logic I'm using though... so that means you're wrong!

YOU DONT KNOW ME!!! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IM ABOUT!!! I LIVE AT THE DISTRICT LIBRARY, TRYING TO DO BETTER FOR MYSELF, BUT EVERY TIME I GET AHEAD JUST A BIT, I GET PULLED RIGHT BACK DOWN, BY YOUR SO CALLED "GOD"

just kidding, but seriously, thats not my logic, or anyones, which makes you a big 10 on my scale

Than whose logic is it?

the logic od you are wrong, and you have a people fearing god, who just stays in the heavens, instead of helping people, or ending wars, or curing disease

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.Blood-Scribe

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

Threads about religion need to be banned. Problem solved._Marisa_

that could work

I'm sorry to have another religion topic but I'm sick of Atheist's just keep on ranting. I've never scene such a people who rant so much and cant just hold there ideas to themselfs.nirvana563

phail

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

a government law

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="garrett_duffman"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.garrett_duffman

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

a government law

And what is the government law founded on?

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

battlefront23

It is a law set by the government that applies to all citizens that reside within the nation.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

a government law

And what is the government law founded on?

the common good

what are you getting at? we are just going to say you're wrong, because you are

[QUOTE="nirvana563"]I'm sorry to have another religion topic but I'm sick of Atheist'sjust keep on ranting. I've never scene such a people who rant so much and cant just hold there ideas to themselfs.Crucifier

phail

Now THAT'S a phail;

and there should be a comma before but.

And what is the government law founded on?

battlefront23

It is founded upon the basis of freedom for the people. It is not influenced by any religious view whatsoever, as doing so would be unconstitutional. Just because something is wrong under the light of the law doesn't mean it is wrong in an absolute point of view, it just means that it's illegal under the sovereign law of the nation because it infringes upon the freedom of its citizens.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.garrett_duffman

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

a government law

And what is the government law founded on?

the common good

what are you getting at? we are just going to say you're wrong, because you are

Who determines what is the common good?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

And what is the government law founded on?

Blood-Scribe

It is founded upon the basis of freedom for the people. It is not influenced by any religious view whatsoever, as doing so would be unconstitutional. Just because something is wrong under the light of the law doesn't mean it is wrong in an absolute point of view, it just means that it's illegal under the sovereign law of the nation because it infringes upon the freedom of its citizens.

But then hypothetically am I "free" to melest someone. Because if I'm not then I'm not free to do whatever I want.

I encourgae critical critique of what I think and of what others think. At no time should someone just hold onto their beliefs and not be willing to listen to better understand. I really think Socrates has something with his view on life and the good.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Sound familiar to anyone?

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I agree. I'm always attacked if I go in the forums about life, derpession, and the such just because I'm religous and I know the true difference between right and wrong.battlefront23

now, when you say true, you mean true according to your religion... which doesnt necesasrily make it right, hence its not really true

Nah see I'm black and white... whats right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG.

Right and Wrong are concepts, they aren't absolute in the slightest. There's no way they could possibly apply to every last being on this Earth.

yea, especially with all of these different religions with their own set of rules

Sorry but that is the worst logic I've ever heard!

your the worst logic ive ever heard

No matter what you say, murder is wrong, ALWAYS wrong!

Bull****, murder is entirely subjective to the circumstances and can only be wrong under the light of the law. Under morality, it is what you make it out to be, so that means you think it's wrong, but others would beg to differ.

The only time killing someone is if in self-defense. Other then that it is wrong! Why do you think we have laws? And where do you think the Founding Fathers came up with these laws? And why is America at its worst right now judicially? because of liberal views like yours.

We have laws for the sake of protecting the freedom of people. Of course murder is usually bad. I never said it's good, but it's not wrong in an absolute. The founding fathers didn't have much of an absolute view on right and wrong either, those laws are there because of the fact that your freedom only goes so far as long as it doesn't infringe upon the freedoms of others, that's the whole point. This isn't a nation under the Christian god, the founding fathers were deists, and this isn't a nation founded under absolutes, just soverign law.

not all the founding fathers were deists and what exactly is sovereign law?

a government law

And what is the government law founded on?

the common good

what are you getting at? we are just going to say you're wrong, because you are

Who determines what is the common good?

are you dumb???? the common good is what the best thing is for the people, which is decided BY THE PEOPLE, not by a higher being up in the clouds serving 24 hour snocones

Who determines what is the common good?

battlefront23

Alright seriously, this is getting annoying, make your goddamned point. If I'm going to argue about what is right and wrong with some chump that I've never met before over the internet, I'd at least like it if said chump were a little more direct about what they're getting at.

are you dumb???? the common good is what the best thing is for the people, which is decided BY THE PEOPLE, not by a higher being up in the clouds serving 24 hour snocones

So its a percentage of people who decide what is right and wrong? So really its the majority of the people. So if 51% said murder is right, then it is indeed right?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Who determines what is the common good?

Blood-Scribe

Alright seriously, this is getting annoying, make your goddamned point. If I'm going to argue about what is right and wrong with some chump that I've never met before over the internet, I'd at least like it if said chump were a little more direct about what they're getting at.

The point is that there needs to be universal morals based upon a God who has a unchanging character.

battlefront23

are you dumb???? the common good is what the best thing is for the people, which is decided BY THE PEOPLE, not by a higher being up in the clouds serving 24 hour snocones

So its a percentage of people who decide what is right and wrong? So really its the majority of the people. So if 51% said murder is right, then it is indeed right?

Funny, I don't remember there ever being an initiative on the ballot to legalize murder

battlefront23

are you dumb???? the common good is what the best thing is for the people, which is decided BY THE PEOPLE, not by a higher being up in the clouds serving 24 hour snocones

So its a percentage of people who decide what is right and wrong? So really its the majority of the people. So if 51% said murder is right, then it is indeed right?

... how many ways can i put this...?

no, your wrong, guess again, close but no cigar, incorrect, nope, nuh-uh, and heck no

just going and randomly killing a guy is homocide

killing a guy for a reason is homocide

killing a man in war is "heroic" in the views of the people and the government, but that has nothing to do with religion

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Who determines what is the common good?

battlefront23

Alright seriously, this is getting annoying, make your goddamned point. If I'm going to argue about what is right and wrong with some chump that I've never met before over the internet, I'd at least like it if said chump were a little more direct about what they're getting at.

The point is that there needs to be universal morals based upon a God who has a unchanging character.

well, what makes your "god" so worthy?

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Who determines what is the common good?

battlefront23

Alright seriously, this is getting annoying, make your goddamned point. If I'm going to argue about what is right and wrong with some chump that I've never met before over the internet, I'd at least like it if said chump were a little more direct about what they're getting at.

The point is that there needs to be universal morals based upon a God who has a unchanging character.

Well it appears that no matter what point you make, you fail to factor in the fact that people can't agree over who's god is right. And why the hell should I surrender my views of right and wrong to something that cannot be proven by virtue of the laws of faith? I don't see any reason to believe that doing so would make anything better, because there's no point in being partially free if you're completely blind.