Atheists - Why are you one?

I'm curious to know why the atheists on OT are one...It's not with the intention of refuting them, I simply just want to know the reasons.

Science is beginning to overtake my religious knowledge. I'm not entirely sure if I'm an athiest... getting there though.

I'm curious to know why the atheists on OT are one...It's not with the intention of refuting them, I simply just want to know the reasons.

TheMadGamer

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I'm curious to know why the atheists on OT are one...It's not with the intention of refuting them, I simply just want to know the reasons.

MrGeezer

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I'm curious to know why the atheists on OT are one...It's not with the intention of refuting them, I simply just want to know the reasons.

TheMadGamer

Not believing/worshipping in something that nobody has ever seen seems more logical than believing/worshipping something that nobody has ever seen. Pus, there are hundreds of different religions with views that conflict. There's no way that everyone is the correct religion

Most religion when observed from an objective position is beyond ridiculous.

I think if there was a god, he/she/it wouldn't allow good things to happen to bad people and bad things to happen to good people. I don't believe god would create a flawed universe.Therefore I refuse to believe in god.

I realized that the only reason I believed in god was because that's what I was raised to believe. I then looked around and saw no other reason to believe.. so I stopped.

The whole "religion" thing just seem a little far fetched to me.
Also, I don't believe in a book that doesn't have a clear source.

Not to mention the evil **** religion has done over the years.

Most religion when observed from an objective position is beyond ridiculous.

mattisgod01

But the question that was posed had nothing to do with religions. You don't need to belong to a religion to believe in a god/goddess.

I don't know how anyone can look at the Universe and see the design that is clearly evident all around us, and NOT believe that something created it. channtheman1

Most religion when observed from anobjective position is beyond ridiculous.

mattisgod01

Like such exists:roll:.

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Most religion when observed from an objective position is beyond ridiculous.

dracula_16

But the question that was posed had nothing to do with religions. You don't need to belong to a religion to believe in a god/goddess.

It has everything to do with religion.

Asking me to follow a religion is like asking me to believe there's an invisible cup in outer space filled with an elixir of immortality that I'll only be able to drink if I think it's there and if I don't eat pizza. Except more strangely oddly specific, unrealistic and unproven.

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Most religion when observed from anobjective position is beyond ridiculous.

Socijalisticka

Like such exists:roll:.

Why can't it exist?

[QUOTE="channtheman1"]I don't know how anyone can look at the Universe and see the design that is clearly evident all around us, and NOT believe that something created it. MrGeezer

Pretty much with the rest of the guys here. I simply do not believe in god/gods of any kind or any supernatural beings.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"]I don't know how anyone can look at the Universe and see the design that is clearly evident all around us, and NOT believe that something created it. channtheman1

Given that the universe is a few billion years old, I would think it weird if something like us didn't spring up randomly by now.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"]I don't know how anyone can look at the Universe and see the design that is clearly evident all around us, and NOT believe that something created it. channtheman1

Well if you work on the incorrect assumption that evolution was trying to create people then that would make a little sense, But it wasn't.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"]I don't know how anyone can look at the Universe and see the design that is clearly evident all around us, and NOT believe that something created it. channtheman1

If nobody forces religion on you from an early age you form your own views and opinions, after all if your beliefs are correct that still means every other religion and billions of people are wrong yet your just as ridiculous beliefs are true :roll:. Ill stick to proven science thank you.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"] Look in a mirror and just look at your body. It's beyond insane to think that the intricate workings of your circulatory system for example are by "random chance." Clearly, something designed your body. There are way too many things that have to happen together for you to even be alive to believe it came about randomly.channtheman1

The Xel'naga, obviously.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"] Look in a mirror and just look at your body. It's beyond insane to think that the intricate workings of your circulatory system for example are by "random chance." Clearly, something designed your body. There are way too many things that have to happen together for you to even be alive to believe it came about randomly.channtheman1

Because there is simply no proof of any gods.

[QUOTE="channtheman1"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] As far as explaining how my circulatory system came to be, I think there's a fairly large gap between "it just randomly came together on its own" and "god made it". You're free to subscribe to that kind of polar logic if you want to, but that hardly qualifies as any kind of actual evidence or proof.MrGeezer

EDIT: I do think it is clear that something had to design our circulatory system. It's too intricate to believe random mutations generated it. When someone builds a house, don't you believe that they designed it? They didn't just throw down piles of wood and cement and out popped a house.

I was raised in a non religous home. For most of my life I've been an athiest until recently. I've come to the conclusion that therehas to be a god.I'm currently dealing with my house being haunted.I've seenghosts with my owneyes.The stuff going on in my house is just short of what happend in the movie poltergeist. I had no doubt there is an afterlife.

I'm not running out to the local church and signing up just yet. I still don't believe in orginized religon.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"] So you don't think an intelligent being designed what so clearly exhibits evidence of design? What do you propose is the middle ground if you don't believe in evolution and don't believe that a higher being created us? channtheman1

EDIT: I do think it is clear that something had to design our circulatory system. It's too intricate to believe random mutations generated it. When someone builds a house, don't you believe that they designed it? They didn't just throw down piles of wood and cement and out popped a house.

Evolution has a purpose, it's survival. Natural selection favours mutation that benefits to the survival of a species, for every random mutation that benefits a species there is likely dozens that don't and natural selection won't favour them. If we are so clearly designed then why do we still have redundant organs and why is large parts of our physiology such a mess?

[QUOTE="channtheman1"]Evolution is purposeless random chance. You believe that millions of random mutations occurred at the same time (they must occur simultaneously because otherwise they would be discarded as they are either useless or damaging alone) to basically create a functioning circulatory system out of nowhere?MrGeezer

No response is really necessary if you aren't going to refute my points. Good day (or night I suppose) to you.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="channtheman1"]I don't know how anyone can look at the Universe and see the design that is clearly evident all around us, and NOT believe that something created it. channtheman1

And since the edit function isn't working for me...houses also don't **** each other, and then make baby houses. Last I'm gonna say on this topic. I have no more interest debating with an evolution denier than I have in wasting my time arguing with a flat earth conspiracy theorist.MrGeezer

[QUOTE="channtheman1"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] If you're not an atheist then why are you even in this thread?MushroomWig

Maybe so, but I don't think I'm being offensive. I certainly don't see where you think that I can't handle that people don't believe what I do. A good debate is always fine for me, but usually people relegate to insults so quickly that it is just not possible.

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="channtheman1"] Am I not allowed to also post my opinion?channtheman1

Maybe so, but I don't think I'm being offensive. I certainly don't see where you think that I can't handle that people don't believe what I do. A good debate is always fine for me, but usually people relegate to insults so quickly that it is just not possible.

Gods seem to be clearly man made, there are so many for so many cultures each claiming to be the one true god.

There is also zero proof of any god and lots of proof of naturalistic processes.