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As if people who believe in God don't enjoy life.:roll:

Old news by the way.

So they're trying to convert them to "freethinking" by telling them to trust something written on the side of a bus? Whatever.

And what does believing in God or not have to do with how many worries you have?

Well, I think it's a little tactless. I mean, I don't see Christians advertising their churches with, "Believe in God, or you're burn in Hell." Makes the rest of us athiests look bad if you ask me.JustPlainLucas

Now imagine if those buses had the slogan, "There is a God. Believe Now".

Oh well.

So they're trying to convert them to "freethinking" by telling them to trust something written on the side of a bus? Whatever. mysterylobster

Well, I think it's a little tactless. I mean, I don't see Christians advertising their churches with, "Believe in God, or you're burn in Hell." Makes the rest of us athiests look bad if you ask me.JustPlainLucas

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

As if people who believe in God don't enjoy life.:roll:

Old news by the way.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]So they're trying to convert them to "freethinking" by telling them to trust something written on the side of a bus? Whatever. Jandurin

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]So they're trying to convert them to "freethinking" by telling them to trust something written on the side of a bus? Whatever. Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]So they're trying to convert them to "freethinking" by telling them to trust something written on the side of a bus? Whatever. mysterylobster

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Well, I think it's a little tactless. I mean, I don't see Christians advertising their churches with, "Believe in God, or you're burn in Hell." Makes the rest of us athiests look bad if you ask me.Teenaged

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

I think the new one is super coolmysterylobster

He is a bad ,bad man.dave123321

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]So they're trying to convert them to "freethinking" by telling them to trust something written on the side of a bus? Whatever. mysterylobster

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Well, I think it's a little tactless. I mean, I don't see Christians advertising their churches with, "Believe in God, or you're burn in Hell." Makes the rest of us athiests look bad if you ask me.JustPlainLucas

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

EDIT: To tell you the truth I'd rather either side to make no efforts or whatsoever to spread their beliefs in such a way. But since Christianity won't stop, I don't consider the atheistic ad awrong idea.

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Well, I think it's a little tactless. I mean, I don't see Christians advertising their churches with, "Believe in God, or you're burn in Hell." Makes the rest of us athiests look bad if you ask me.Teenaged

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

Exactly. I think if a church can advertise thier church through signs, posters, and billboards that atheists should do the same with no resentment or protest. I've always been neutral in this matter, Agnostic if you will call it so i dont really care either way. Christians themselves are the reason i dislike thier faith so much to begin with...... and dont even get me started on atheists.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Well, I think it's a little tactless. I mean, I don't see Christians advertising their churches with, "Believe in God, or you're burn in Hell." Makes the rest of us athiests look bad if you ask me.elfimis

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

Exactly. I think if a church can advertise thier church through signs, posters, and billboards that atheists should do the same with no resentment or protest.

Atheism, according to atheists, is a "lack of belief." Basically, it's nothing. Their advertising of their lack of belief to convert people to the belief that isn't a belief is hypocritical to say the least.

[QUOTE="elfimis"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

Theokhoth

Exactly. I think if a church can advertise thier church through signs, posters, and billboards that atheists should do the same with no resentment or protest.

Atheism, according to atheists, is a "lack of belief." Basically, it's nothing. Their advertising of their lack of belief to convert people to the belief that isn't a belief is hypocritical to say the least.

I don't get it why an ad about belief of the existence of something that cannot be proved is ok, while an ad about the belief about the non-existence of that is hypocritical. It's just an alternative view

I don't get it why an ad about belief of the existence of something that cannot be proved is ok, while an ad about the belief about the non-existence of that is hypocritical. It's just an alternative view

Teenaged

No, if it's a "lack of, " then it's not an alternative anything. A "lack of" shouldn't need to be advertised.

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway; I just find this stunt to be hilariously hypocritical. "We don't believe in anything, but we feel we need to broadcast our non-belief and convert people to this state of non-belief."

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I don't get it why an ad about belief of the existence of something that cannot be proved is ok, while an ad about the belief about the non-existence of that is hypocritical. It's just an alternative view

Theokhoth

No, if it's a "lack of, " then it's not an alternative anything. A "lack of" shouldn't need to be advertised.

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway; I just find this stunt to be hilariously hypocritical. "We don't believe in anything, but we feel we need to broadcast our non-belief and convert people to this state of non-belief."

[QUOTE="elfimis"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

They actually do. They just use more mild expressions than the one you wrote.

Theokhoth

Exactly. I think if a church can advertise thier church through signs, posters, and billboards that atheists should do the same with no resentment or protest.

Atheism, according to atheists, is a "lack of belief." Basically, it's nothing. Their advertising of their lack of belief to convert people to the belief that isn't a belief is hypocritical to say the least.

Your kind of on the right track and kind of not. They do have beliefs, they believe in "nontheism" as oppposed to deities and gods. I wouldnt go so far as to calling them hypocrits as i would to just say that its a difference of opinion.

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway;

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I don't get it why an ad about belief of the existence of something that cannot be proved is ok, while an ad about the belief about the non-existence of that is hypocritical. It's just an alternative view

Teenaged

No, if it's a "lack of, " then it's not an alternative anything. A "lack of" shouldn't need to be advertised.

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway; I just find this stunt to be hilariously hypocritical. "We don't believe in anything, but we feel we need to broadcast our non-belief and convert people to this state of non-belief."

What? I don't even imply that. >_>

Christians believe in something; ergo, Christians want other people to believe the same thing; ergo, Christians advertise their beliefs. Atheists, according to atheists, don't believe in something but rather lack a belief in something; ergo, they've nothing to advertise.

And people are aware of the existence of atheists; I don't get why they use that excuse to make lawsuits and obviously offensive billboards. "Oh, we just want people to know atheists exist!" We do know. We've known since you guys popped up in Greece all those millenia ago.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="elfimis"]

Exactly. I think if a church can advertise thier church through signs, posters, and billboards that atheists should do the same with no resentment or protest.

elfimis

Atheism, according to atheists, is a "lack of belief." Basically, it's nothing. Their advertising of their lack of belief to convert people to the belief that isn't a belief is hypocritical to say the least.

Your kind of on the right track and kind of not. They do have beliefs, they believe in "nontheism" as oppposed to deities and gods. I wouldnt go so far as to calling them hypocrits as i would to just say that its a difference of opinion.

Yes, but here's the thing: many atheists today equate nontheism and atheism. One big thing in atheist arguments today is that it's not a rejection or a belief; it's just a lack of belief. Nontheism and atheism are different, but if atheists want them to be the same then advertising it is hypocritical.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway;

Jandurin

I don't believe it when atheists argue that atheism is a negative position.

negative position.Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]negative position.Jandurin

Indeed it does.:oops:

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

No, if it's a "lack of, " then it's not an alternative anything. A "lack of" shouldn't need to be advertised.

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway; I just find this stunt to be hilariously hypocritical. "We don't believe in anything, but we feel we need to broadcast our non-belief and convert people to this state of non-belief."

Theokhoth

What? I don't even imply that. >_>

Christians believe in something; ergo, Christians want other people to believe the same thing; ergo, Christians advertise their beliefs. Atheists, according to atheists, don't believe in something but rather lack a belief in something; ergo, they've nothing to advertise.

And people are aware of the existence of atheists; I don't get why they use that excuse to make lawsuits and obviously offensive billboards. "Oh, we just want people to know atheists exist!" We do know. We've known since you guys popped up in Greece all those millenia ago.

This is two-sided and your making it one sided. Its the exact same thing as when christians promote and go door to door cause they feel your in danger of going to "hell" because you havent accepted Jesus as your lord and savior. SAME THING as athiests promoting to people that they feel the exact opposite and they just dont wanna see you waste your life away over a belief that they strongly feel is false.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

No, if it's a "lack of, " then it's not an alternative anything. A "lack of" shouldn't need to be advertised.

Of course, I don't buy into the "lack of belief" nonsense anyway; I just find this stunt to be hilariously hypocritical. "We don't believe in anything, but we feel we need to broadcast our non-belief and convert people to this state of non-belief."

Theokhoth

What? I don't even imply that. >_>

Christians believe in something; ergo, Christians want other people to believe the same thing; ergo, Christians advertise their beliefs. Atheists, according to atheists, don't believe in something but rather lack a belief in something; ergo, they've nothing to advertise.

And people are aware of the existence of atheists; I don't get why they use that excuse to make lawsuits and obviously offensive billboards. "Oh, we just want people to know atheists exist!" We do know. We've known since you guys popped up in Greece all those millenia ago.

And I know what Christianism is all about and I'm sure all the world knows but I don't want to be reminded that I am a sinner by Christian billboards every time I walk down the street.

And here you play with technicalities. A lack of belief in something is not no belief at all. If I saw a campaign against smoking would I say that they shouldn't go about yelling that smoking's bad? And whether this analogy works, I think it does. For some people somking is bad (becausestudies have showed it) and for others smoking is good (relieves stress etc). The same with religion: for some it is good because it is comforting, for others it is bad because it feeds lies and continually bashes atheists.

And i'm not saying you are implying it. The way you put it it sounded like that. I figured it was not your intention but it sounded like that.

This is two-sided and your making it one sided. Its the exact same thing as when christians promote and go door to door cause they feel your in danger of going to "hell" because you havent accepted Jesus as your lord and savior. SAME THING as athiests promoting to people that they feel the exact opposite and they just dont wanna see you waste your life away over a belief that they strongly feel is false.

elfimis

They can't stronglyfeel the belief is false if they simply "lack a belief"; that's the point I'm trying to make. Once they "strongly feel" in any direction, it's no longer a "lack of belief" deal. Nobody argues that Christianity is a "lack of belief," but plenty of people (particularly the ones sponsoring these advertisements) argue that atheism is. It's not as simple as you make it out.

I don't mind atheists knocking on my door and preaching. What I do mind is atheists knocking on my door to preach and then hear them say they don't have anything to preach about.

[QUOTE="elfimis"]

This is two-sided and your making it one sided. Its the exact same thing as when christians promote and go door to door cause they feel your in danger of going to "hell" because you havent accepted Jesus as your lord and savior. SAME THING as athiests promoting to people that they feel the exact opposite and they just dont wanna see you waste your life away over a belief that they strongly feel is false.

Theokhoth

They can't stronglyfeel the belief is false if they simply "lack a belief"; that's the point I'm trying to make. Once they "strongly feel" in any direction, it's no longer a "lack of belief" deal. Nobody argues that Christianity is a "lack of belief," but plenty of people (particularly the ones sponsoring these advertisements) argue that atheism is. It's not as simple as you make it out.

I don't mind atheists knocking on my door and preaching. What I do mind is atheists knocking on my door to preach and then hear them say they don't have anything to preach about.

And I know what Christianism is all about and I'm sure all the world knows but I don't want to be reminded that I am a sinner by Christian billboards every time I walk down the street.

And here you play with technicalities. A lack of belief in something is not no belief at all. If I saw a campaign against smoking would I say that they shouldn't go about yelling that smoking's bad? And whether this analogy works, I think it does. For some people somking is bad (becausestudies have showed it) and for others smoking is good (relieves stress etc). The same with religion: for some it is good because it is comforting, for others it is bad because it feeds lies and continually bashes atheists.

And i'm not saying you are implying it. The way you put it it sounded like that. I figured it was not your intention but it sounded like that.

Teenaged

And I don't particularly like being blamed for 9/11 by atheist billboards, either.;)

A lack of belief in something is no belief at all in the existence of that particular something. This game of technicalities wasn't started by me.

Well, it wasn't my intention, and I don't see how it sounded like that.>_>

They can't stronglyfeel the belief is false if they simply "lack a belief"; that's the point I'm trying to make. Once they "strongly feel" in any direction, it's no longer a "lack of belief" deal. Nobody argues that Christianity is a "lack of belief," but plenty of people (particularly the ones sponsoring these advertisements) argue that atheism is. It's not as simple as you make it out.

I don't mind atheists knocking on my door and preaching. What I do mind is atheists knocking on my door to preach and then hear them say they don't have anything to preach about.

Theokhoth

Of course no one is saying that Christianity is a "lack of belief" because its not. I dont even know why you said that. The atheists do have something to preach about, they are promoting their ideas that Christians are wasting thier lives and they dont wanna see you lose all that valuable time that you spend going to church and doing other related activities. Same way the christians are promoting thier ideas that atheists are wasting thier lives by not believing.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

And I know what Christianism is all about and I'm sure all the world knows but I don't want to be reminded that I am a sinner by Christian billboards every time I walk down the street.

And here you play with technicalities. A lack of belief in something is not no belief at all. If I saw a campaign against smoking would I say that they shouldn't go about yelling that smoking's bad? And whether this analogy works, I think it does. For some people somking is bad (becausestudies have showed it) and for others smoking is good (relieves stress etc). The same with religion: for some it is good because it is comforting, for others it is bad because it feeds lies and continually bashes atheists.

And i'm not saying you are implying it. The way you put it it sounded like that. I figured it was not your intention but it sounded like that.

Theokhoth

And I don't particularly like being blamed for 9/11 by atheist billboards, either.;)

A lack of belief in something is no belief at all in the existence of that particular something. This game of technicalities wasn't started by me.

Well, it wasn't my intention, and I don't see how it sounded like that.>_>

You see there's adifference: in the extreme interpretation of each side's messages, Christians tell me that I will burn in hell and atheists say "maybe you're stupid". Which is worse?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="elfimis"]

This is two-sided and your making it one sided. Its the exact same thing as when christians promote and go door to door cause they feel your in danger of going to "hell" because you havent accepted Jesus as your lord and savior. SAME THING as athiests promoting to people that they feel the exact opposite and they just dont wanna see you waste your life away over a belief that they strongly feel is false.

Teenaged

They can't stronglyfeel the belief is false if they simply "lack a belief"; that's the point I'm trying to make. Once they "strongly feel" in any direction, it's no longer a "lack of belief" deal. Nobody argues that Christianity is a "lack of belief," but plenty of people (particularly the ones sponsoring these advertisements) argue that atheism is. It's not as simple as you make it out.

I don't mind atheists knocking on my door and preaching. What I do mind is atheists knocking on my door to preach and then hear them say they don't have anything to preach about.

That's what these billboards are. There are atheist churches. There are atheist pastors and missionaries. I think there are even atheist televangelists.

Yeah, you can strongly believe you don't believe, but you can't believe that something doesn't exist without having proof it doesn't exist without having faith. And most people aren't religious because they don't have faith.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

They can't stronglyfeel the belief is false if they simply "lack a belief"; that's the point I'm trying to make. Once they "strongly feel" in any direction, it's no longer a "lack of belief" deal. Nobody argues that Christianity is a "lack of belief," but plenty of people (particularly the ones sponsoring these advertisements) argue that atheism is. It's not as simple as you make it out.

I don't mind atheists knocking on my door and preaching. What I do mind is atheists knocking on my door to preach and then hear them say they don't have anything to preach about.

Theokhoth

That's what these billboards are. There are atheist churches. There are atheist pastors and missionaries. I think there are even atheist televangelists.

The red sounds funny. But you're missing the point if you cut my posts. I told you that I would rather both sides to stop doig what they do with billboards, but since the theistic community uses those means then you can't expect the opposite view to not want to be heard via the same means.

You see there's adifference: in the extreme interpretation of each side's messages, Christians tell me that I will burn in hell and atheists say "maybe you're stupid". Which is worse?

Teenaged

Do you know why the word "probably" is even in those advertisements? Because the bus company running the advertisements can't make a positive declaration about the existence of God. Atheists complained about the "probably."

And I'm not just getting "stupid" from atheist messages, either. I'm getting "violent," (9/11) "depressed," ("enjoy your life") "insane," ("religion is fairytales" sign in Washington) and who oh who could forget "unreasonable".

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Yeah, you can strongly believe you don't believe, but you can't believe that something doesn't exist without having proof it doesn't exist without having faith. And most people aren't religious because they don't have faith.Teenaged