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#101 pygmahia5
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hows this? I got it from a pretty reputable source. i think ill see pretty good gains from this one. it doesn't have hammer curls though :( which i love.

DAY 1 - Chest, biceps, shoulders

A Flat BB bench press - w 4x5-8 / 120

B Incline DB bench press - 3x8-12 2010 90

C Incline DB flys - 3x8-12 2020 60

D Military press - w 4x5-8 / 75

E Chinups - w 4x5-8 / 75

F DB preacher curls - 3x8-12 2120 60

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DAY 2 - Lower body hip dominant

A Deadlift - w 5x3-5 / 180

B1 Front squats - w 4x5-8 / 45

B2 Leg curls - w 4x5-8 2011 45

C1 Seated calf raises - w 2x12-20 3211 30

C2 Cable crunches - 2x12-20 2121 30

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DAY 3 - Back, triceps

A Pullups - w 3x8-12 / 90

B Bent-over BB rows - w 4x5-8 / 90

C1 DB rows - 3x8-12 2010 45

C2 Upright rows - 3x8-12 2021 45

D Parallel bar dips - w 4x5-8 21X1 90

E DB overhead extensions - 3x8-12 2110 60

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DAY 4 - Lower body quad-dominant

A Squat - w 4x8-12 / 180

B1 Romanian deadlifts - w 3x8-12 3020 45

B2 Split squats - 3x8-12 / 45

C1 Standing calf raises - w 4x6-10 52X1 30

C2 Hanging leg raises - 4x8-12 3010 30

BranKetra

On your first post, you said you were doing heavy weight low reps and you wanted to switch the rep-to-weight ratio around. I'm guessing you have it in set-rep format (4x5-8=4 sets of 5 to 8 reps each). If that's correct, you still have some with low reps. From what I hear, 1-6 is the low range and 8-12 is good for a moderate weight. It's higher in reps, so it won't be as taxing on your muscles as lower rep/higher weight, but it's still good. Lately, I've been doing everything 3x8 at a high-moderate weight. So on my last set, I'll be really going at it to get those last reps in.

According to what I learned from Rippetoe, if you are going to do a 5x5 or something similar, then you should only have one per workout. Then again, he wasn't talking light weights high reps.

I noticed you have a 4-day plan, but I don't know how you're splitting them up or if it's just Mon-Thur. As far as working out goes, in general, I hear it's good to let body parts rest for 48 hours before exercising them again, which leads me to the next point. In my experience, correct deadlifts and squats work the entire legs and the back to a certain extent. When I do Romanian deadlifts, they tend to work my hamstrings and lower spinal erector muscles more than squats or normal deadlifts isolate those areas. As I said before, squats and deadlifts work the entire legs and part of the back. Squats in particular also work the abdominals a bit. Keep that in mind, so when your lower back muscles starts to tighten up, you know why.

I'm not too sure about your upper body workouts. They don't seem bad. I've just never done that exact one. I've been doing wide grip pullups for shoulders and lats and some other things.

For biceps, I stick with dumbells and cable curls. Hammer curls, Skull crushers, and rope pressdowns for triceps. I superset arm workout, so I get done fast but it works. Chest workout seems good. I've been doing incline bench, cable chest extensions, and dumbell flat bench. Cable chest extensions in particular have been a good addition to my workouts. Just a tip.

I still have a lot to learn, but this is a little bit of the things I've learned from training with other people, hearing their opinions on things, and training on my own. I hope this helps.

thanks so much for your post. the 4 day split done like...2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 2 days off. there are LOADS of other workout routines this particular guy has given out that work, but i like this one the most.
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#102 sonofsmeagle
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wow just wow, i just read that article then and i'm truely amazed, As crazy as it sounds in my experience the more crazy and uncomfortable the workout the better, i'm actually going to implement this into my matrix workout with switching out the matrix squats with these ones with the same half-up,half-down combos and see how it goes.

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#103 The_Gaming_Baby
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[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"][QUOTE="The_Zoid"]Twice a week would be better, as once a week muscle blasting is more akin to juicers and such that can handle stress like that.The_Zoid
No, once a week is better. You need to train your muscle and then allow it to rest in order to make it stronger/bigger.

You just lost all credibility with that other post. So I doubt it. Mix up your food, haha. Like your body knows what the hell specific food is, it absorbs nutrients and recognizes them only. Lay off the fitness mags.

No. If you eat the same foods in the same order every day then your body DOES come to expect it (not the actual food but what the food supplies the body). If you want the perfect diet then you change it, even if its just a slight change, every 3 weeks.

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#104 The_Zoid
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[QUOTE="The_Zoid"][QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"] No, once a week is better. You need to train your muscle and then allow it to rest in order to make it stronger/bigger.The_Gaming_Baby

You just lost all credibility with that other post. So I doubt it. Mix up your food, haha. Like your body knows what the hell specific food is, it absorbs nutrients and recognizes them only. Lay off the fitness mags.

No. If you eat the same foods in the same order every day then your body DOES come to expect it (not the actual food but what the food supplies the body). If you want the perfect diet then you change it, even if its just a slight change, every 3 weeks.

I don't believe you. Even if that were true it's not like your body just decides not to use them. Nutrients are nutrients and your body couldn't give a damn where they come from or when.
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#105 sonofsmeagle
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[QUOTE="The_Zoid"][QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"] No, once a week is better. You need to train your muscle and then allow it to rest in order to make it stronger/bigger.The_Gaming_Baby

You just lost all credibility with that other post. So I doubt it. Mix up your food, haha. Like your body knows what the hell specific food is, it absorbs nutrients and recognizes them only. Lay off the fitness mags.

No. If you eat the same foods in the same order every day then your body DOES come to expect it (not the actual food but what the food supplies the body). If you want the perfect diet then you change it, even if its just a slight change, every 3 weeks.

i think with a claim as unknown as this you may have to provide some proof of this like an article atleast,
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#106 Zlurodirom
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[QUOTE="The_Zoid"][QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"] No, once a week is better. You need to train your muscle and then allow it to rest in order to make it stronger/bigger.The_Gaming_Baby

You just lost all credibility with that other post. So I doubt it. Mix up your food, haha. Like your body knows what the hell specific food is, it absorbs nutrients and recognizes them only. Lay off the fitness mags.

No. If you eat the same foods in the same order every day then your body DOES come to expect it (not the actual food but what the food supplies the body). If you want the perfect diet then you change it, even if its just a slight change, every 3 weeks.

Your body can distinguish different macronutrients, and it can also discriminate based on taste (sweet, sour, bitter, similar to macronutrient distribution) with or without codnitive function. Individual foods on the other hand, no. Your body does come to expect an infusion of macronutrients on certain days, so it's GOOD to eat consistently around the same time. You train your body to utilize fuel effectively so you can work out at a higher level. What's the point of switching up a diet anyways?

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#107 MgamerBD
Member since 2006 • 17550 Posts

hows this? I got it from a pretty reputable source. i think ill see pretty good gains from this one. it doesn't have hammer curls though :( which i love.

DAY 1 - Chest, triceps, shoulders

A Flat BB bench press - w 4x5-8 / 120

B Incline DB bench press - 3x8-12 2010 90

C Incline DB flys - 3x8-12 2020 60

D Military press - w 4x5-8 / 75

E Chinups - w 4x5-8 / 75

F DB preacher curls - 3x8-12 2120 60

--

DAY 2 - Lower body hip dominant

A Deadlift - w 5x3-5 / 180

B1 Front squats - w 4x5-8 / 45

B2 Leg curls - w 4x5-8 2011 45

C1 Seated calf raises - w 2x12-20 3211 30

C2 Cable crunches - 2x12-20 2121 30

--

DAY 3 - Back, Biceps

A Pullups - w 3x8-12 / 90

B Bent-over BB rows - w 4x5-8 / 90

C1 DB rows - 3x8-12 2010 45

C2 Upright rows - 3x8-12 2021 45

D Parallel bar dips - w 4x5-8 21X1 90

E DB overhead extensions - 3x8-12 2110 60

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DAY 4 - Lower body quad-dominant

A Squat - w 4x8-12 / 180

B1 Romanian deadlifts - w 3x8-12 3020 45

B2 Split squats - 3x8-12 / 45

C1 Standing calf raises - w 4x6-10 52X1 30

C2 Hanging leg raises - 4x8-12 3010 30

pygmahia5

Seems pretty solid. Your schedule looks good. But try so this instead. Because when you work your chest and shoulders your mostly using your Triceps and with your back your mostly using your biceps. I put the changes in bold. Just switch the exercises

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#108 branketra
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Zlurodirom

I've seen a trainer doing these at my local gym. Never bothered to do them. He called them something much different than one-legged squats. It sounds interesting.

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#109 killerband55
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thats almost like the way insanity does a schedule with weights

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#110 branketra
Member since 2006 • 51726 Posts
[QUOTE="pygmahia5"] thanks so much for your post. the 4 day split done like...2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 2 days off. there are LOADS of other workout routines this particular guy has given out that work, but i like this one the most.

No problem. I like talking to people about approaches to working out and sharing mine to compare and see what I'm doing right and what can be improved. I've done a similar workout in that format. I found it on bodybuilding.com. It was an 8-week program that changed every week, but I wanted to focus on one set of workouts, So I only did the 1st week. Even then, I only took things from it that I felt I needed then. It worked for me.