Avatar's sotryline was very cliche. **SPOILER ALERT** >:)

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#1 rubber-chicken
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Before I even watched it, my friend told me how the movie starts. "So this guy from a group of people want to sabotage some other people..." Oh, so then he's gonna become friends with those people, and go against his own people? Right. I mean is all the hype for this movie because of how good it looks? It was definitely one of the prettiest movies I've seen, but as for the storyline, I've been there, done that. What do you think? Probably everyone's gonna disagree. :P

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#2 Nerd_Man
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You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.
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#3 rubber-chicken
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You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.Nerd_Man
So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P
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#4 Tigerman950
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The storyline may have been cliche, but I don't know about the sotryline...

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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.rubber-chicken
So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P

OMG, he fell into your trap.
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#6 deactivated-5d3f5f1ece8fb
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Maybe the storyline was a little cliche.

During the movie I didn't think the storyline was predictable, and I didn't see a lot of things coming. The movie was so immersive that I didn't even think about it. I was a part of the movie. Was it just the visuals that did it? I don't think so (I saw it in 2-D).

Overall, I thought the movie was awesome.

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#7 my_mortal_coil
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.rubber-chicken
So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P

He's not in the "Redundant Thread Union".

Oh I agree, the general plot is overdone, but what plot isn't nowadays? You have your romances, betrayals, comedies, tragedies then you just mix and match. For me the devil is in the details and the Avatar plot was not too cheesy or derivitive.

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#8 GTA_dude
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Pretty much every storyline was covered by Shakespeare. Most movies have a similar story line if you just read between the lines..... And if it wasn't covered by him, someone else covered it then. Seriously, most new movies share the general idea with an older one.
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Before I even watched it, my friend told me how the movie starts. "So this guy from a group of people want to sabotage some other people..." Oh, so then he's gonna become friends with those people, and go against his own people? Right. I mean is all the hype for this movie because of how good it looks? It was definitely one of the prettiest movies I've seen, but as forthe storyline, I've been there, done that. What do you think? Probably everyone's gonna disagree. :P

rubber-chicken
I agree... yeah it looked awesome.. but the story blew
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The only problem I had with it was the Colonel constantly busting out 80s action movie one liners. Other than that the movie was great.
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#11 SaintLeonidas
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You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.Nerd_Man
And the hundredth to mention it was cliche in some way. Yeah, it was cliche and much of it was done before, but like most films it uses the cliches to fill in the gaps for the overall story which on its own way was original.
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[QUOTE="rubber-chicken"][QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.xaos
So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P

OMG, he fell into your trap.

lol

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Before I even watched it, my friend told me how the movie starts. "So this guy from a group of people want to sabotage some other people..." Oh, so then he's gonna become friends with those people, and go against his own people? Right. I mean is all the hype for this movie because of how good it looks? It was definitely one of the prettiest movies I've seen, but as forthe storyline, I've been there, done that. What do you think? Probably everyone's gonna disagree. :P

rubber-chicken

Yes, its a cliched storyline, BUT the movie successfully transcends it (ala Star Wars) and is a great Adventure movie irregardless.

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#14 my_mortal_coil
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.SaintLeonidas
And the hundredth to mention it was cliche in some way. Yeah, it was cliche and much of it was done before, but like most films it uses the cliches to fill in the gaps for the overall story which on its own way was original.

Someone likened the story to a mash-up of Dances with Wolves and Ferngully, which apart from being spot on, tickled me to death.

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#16 Baranga
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I don't see why a cliche, but well executed storyline is bad.

Most people bashing the story ignore the incredibly detailed universe portrayed in the movie. Avatar is such a vivid display of imagination...

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#17 AFBrat77
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You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.Nerd_Man

Not surprising, it may turn out to be the highest grossing movie EVER.

I want to go see it again in 3D before it leaves theatres.

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#18 rubber-chicken
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[QUOTE="rubber-chicken"][QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.my_mortal_coil

So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P

He's not in the "Redundant Thread Union".

Oh I agree, the general plot is overdone, but what plot isn't nowadays? You have your romances, betrayals, comedies, tragedies then you just mix and match. For me the devil is in the details and the Avatar plot was not too cheesy or derivitive.

There's no sticky or anything :P

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It is an enjoyable tech demo, but yeah the story... man it is bad.
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#20 Samurai_Xavier
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Can everyone please stop with the cliche storyline threads about Avatar? When did people all of a sudden turn into film critics?

Where were these threads when people were praising Transformers 2?

What about District 9, which gets so much love in here? Isnt that filled with one action movie cliche after another?

Avatar isnt trying to have an original story, it is trying to have a story that is easy to understand so it immerses us into its amazing world and makes us care about the characters. In that aspect, the movie is an enormous success.

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#21 Parandrus
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These threads should just get locked now. There's more than enough around.
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#22 Nerd_Man
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.rubber-chicken
So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P

There's a difference between appreciating film and making a million threads on the same topic.
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#23 rubber-chicken
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[QUOTE="rubber-chicken"][QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]You're about the hundredth person to make an Avatar thread on Gamespot. Congratulations.Nerd_Man
So much for being in a film appreciation union? :P

There's a difference between appreciating film and making a million threads on the same topic.

Well everyone gets a say, there's no rule against it :(
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#24 metroidfood
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Yeah, I pretty much saw everything coming from the moment the movie started. It was still good though.

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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"][QUOTE="rubber-chicken"] So much for being in a film appreciation union? :Prubber-chicken
There's a difference between appreciating film and making a million threads on the same topic.

Well everyone gets a say, there's no rule against it :(

Even if its the exact same say that's been on this very forum a couple dozen times in that last week or two!
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Can everyone please stop with the cliche storyline threads about Avatar? When did people all of a sudden turn into film critics?

Where were these threads when people were praising Transformers 2?

What about District 9, which gets so much love in here? Isnt that filled with one action movie cliche after another?

Avatar isnt trying to have an original story, it is trying to have a story that is easy to understand so it immerses us into its amazing world and makes us care about the characters. In that aspect, the movie is an enormous success.

Samurai_Xavier

Strange, I thought District 9 managed to avoid several action movie cliches.

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#27 muscleserge
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It is a complete rip off of Pocahontas, it isn't even funny. The movie was just pretty CGI most of the time that is it.
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#28 AlphaRail
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The story is...meh..at first I thought it was great but after a few hours after seeing it I thought it was a bit cliche, it was still a good movie none the less..and yes this has been said a lot. Avatar should get it's own sticky :P
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Can everyone please stop with the cliche storyline threads about Avatar? When did people all of a sudden turn into film critics?

Where were these threads when people were praising Transformers 2?

What about District 9, which gets so much love in here? Isnt that filled with one action movie cliche after another?

Avatar isnt trying to have an original story, it is trying to have a story that is easy to understand so it immerses us into its amazing world and makes us care about the characters. In that aspect, the movie is an enormous success.

Ace_WondersX

Strange, I thought District 9 managed to avoid several action movie cliches.

I hated how in the second half of the movie, the guy turns into some kind of sci-fi Rambo who is impossible to shoot. And of course he will get into the huge robot and kick ass, and then almost die but survive, and the ending will set up a sequel.

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#30 not_wanted
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What? :o It's the greatest story ever told. :P But still the movie was great.

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#31 rcignoni
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While cliche, I was still pretty immersed.
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#32 rubber-chicken
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[QUOTE="rubber-chicken"][QUOTE="Nerd_Man"] There's a difference between appreciating film and making a million threads on the same topic.xaos
Well everyone gets a say, there's no rule against it :(

Even if its the exact same say that's been on this very forum a couple dozen times in that last week or two!

And yet it stil became a hot thread. Away with you, zombie!!
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="rubber-chicken"] Well everyone gets a say, there's no rule against it :(rubber-chicken
Even if its the exact same say that's been on this very forum a couple dozen times in that last week or two!

And yet it stil became a hot thread. Away with you, zombie!!

I thought everyone was supposed to get a say :(
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#34 kweeni
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meh clishe or not the movie was still great
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#35 Jipset
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What? :o It's the greatest story ever told. :P But still the movie was great.

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I actually lol'd. :P

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#36 rubber-chicken
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Can everyone please stop with the cliche storyline threads about Avatar? When did people all of a sudden turn into film critics?

Where were these threads when people were praising Transformers 2?

What about District 9, which gets so much love in here? Isnt that filled with one action movie cliche after another?

Avatar isnt trying to have an original story, it is trying to have a story that is easy to understand so it immerses us into its amazing world and makes us care about the characters. In that aspect, the movie is an enormous success.

I didn't watch Transformers 2 or District 9, I'm sorry! Please don't hurt me! >_
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#37 Gaming-Planet
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Put it on mute and the movie would have still been awesome.

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#38 psn8214
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I don't see why a cliche, but well executed storyline is bad.

Most people bashing the story ignore the incredibly detailed universe portrayed in the movie. Avatar is such a vivid display of imagination...

Baranga

This.

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#39 Elraptor
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Well, as people have said, if you demand an original storyline, most books and movies will disappoint on some level. I just wanted to some escapist sci-fi, and that's what I got.
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[QUOTE="rubber-chicken"]

Before I even watched it, my friend told me how the movie starts. "So this guy from a group of people want to sabotage some other people..." Oh, so then he's gonna become friends with those people, and go against his own people? Right. I mean is all the hype for this movie because of how good it looks? It was definitely one of the prettiest movies I've seen, but as forthe storyline, I've been there, done that. What do you think? Probably everyone's gonna disagree. :P

AFBrat77

Yes, its a cliched storyline, BUT the movie successfully transcends it (ala Star Wars) and is a great Adventure movie irregardless.

I could not agree more. What movie is genuinely innovative in terms of the story it tells? There weren't many storytelling motifs/themes to start with, and after centuries of performance arts, we've exhausted almost all of them. Nowadays the trick is to tell an old story in a new way. I don't think the plot really did that, but the movie itself as a whole sure did. I could not have thought of a better parallel than Star Wars. I doff my cap to thee good sir.

Can everyone please stop with the cliche storyline threads about Avatar? When did people all of a sudden turn into film critics?

Where were these threads when people were praising Transformers 2?

What about District 9, which gets so much love in here? Isnt that filled with one action movie cliche after another?

Avatar isnt trying to have an original story, it is trying to have a story that is easy to understand so it immerses us into its amazing world and makes us care about the characters. In that aspect, the movie is an enormous success.

Samurai_Xavier

Cut him some slack, everyone is entitled to air his opinion...if you don't like it, don't post.

I for one hated Transformers 2. I got so bored with it I was tempted to walk out of the cinema mid-film for the first time ever. And I have seen a lot of movies. And quite a few people did have threads to that effect.

District 9 has it's share of stupid action-movie bits towards the end, but that's Hollywood for you. It "gets so much love" because the storyline is a brilliant way of retelling the Apartheid story, which is one that still has resonance for many people today. The setting, the scenario, everything makes powerful moral points about what it is to be human, or more specifically, what it is to be "a person". That is why people love it. Personally, I felt it could have done without the shooting crap altogether.

I'm not convinced that the characters of Avatar are all that great. Frankly, I thought they were pretty forgettable actually. Avatar was disappointing because the cinematography/CGI was so revolutionary and out-of-this world, we were hoping for a story to match it. Something like Terminator 2 perhaps. That was a marriage of awesome special effects and a great plot.

But meh, whatever, I still enjoyed the movie.

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#41 CBR600-RR
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The only problem I had with it was the Colonel constantly busting out 80s action movie one liners. Other than that the movie was great.xTheExploited

That was the funny part, the film was already a bit overdone in some places because when you see a person get killed, it was funny.

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#42 Pvt_r3d
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Avatar reminds me of Pocahauntes (My epic spelling)
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Probably the most overrated movie this year.
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To all you people defending Avatar on the grounds that "well, there really aren't any original stories", then don't let me EVER see you criticizing another movie for being cliched and by-the-numbers.

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#45 cd_rom
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To all you people defending Avatar on the grounds that "well, there really aren't any original stories", then don't let me EVER see you criticizing another movie for being cliched and by-the-numbers.

MrGeezer
Are you going to write down all their names for future reference?
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At least Avatar's story was passable, compared to a movie like Transformers 2.

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#47 psn8214
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To all you people defending Avatar on the grounds that "well, there really aren't any original stories", then don't let me EVER see you criticizing another movie for being cliched and by-the-numbers.

MrGeezer

I will not. You have my word.

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#48 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

To all you people defending Avatar on the grounds that "well, there really aren't any original stories", then don't let me EVER see you criticizing another movie for being cliched and by-the-numbers.

cd_rom

Are you going to write down all their names for future reference?

I've already started.

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#49 legend26
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I don't see why a cliche, but well executed storyline is bad.

Most people bashing the story ignore the incredibly detailed universe portrayed in the movie. Avatar is such a vivid display of imagination...

Baranga

absoultley

hell most sci-fi in some way is cliche, all sci-fi is taking a familiar set up and setting it up in an unfamilliar way.

examples

star wars - save the princess story, and young boy leanrs that he is destined to become a warrior and fight great evil

Alien - monster in a haunted house

District 9 - Apartheid with aliens

there are many other exapmles.

also these movies have familiar premises, but the universe is so detailed that it is not noticeable.

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#50 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

To all you people defending Avatar on the grounds that "well, there really aren't any original stories", then don't let me EVER see you criticizing another movie for being cliched and by-the-numbers.

MrGeezer

Are you going to write down all their names for future reference?

I've already started.

I think it's only fair that you never praise a movie that has a cliched story. The second it comes out, you must instantly bash it.