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AnnoyedDragon

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#101 AnnoyedDragon
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@AnnoyedDragon where have you been? i saw few posts from you when i was under permasuspention and few aftersurrealnumber5

I took a serveral month break a while back.

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#102 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]@AnnoyedDragon where have you been? i saw few posts from you when i was under permasuspention and few afterAnnoyedDragon

I took a serveral month break a while back.

funny you would come back now, but im not mad
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#103 rawsavon
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Asking me how to replace the current system; is not a end all counter argument to the absurdity of the existing system. It isn't even a counter argument, ... Honestly, you sound exactly like the people who caused the sub-prime mortgage crisis. You don't care about the consequence; so long as you get your money and it "hopefully" doesn't affect you. ... People who think like you create the crisis's that hurt everyone else. The sad thing is it does affect you, it affects you on a daily basis. You just don't care enough to learn how it does.

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I don't care.
I don't give a **** what system we use. We could switch to communism, a dictatorship, a monarchy, back to feudalism (so long as I am a lord and not serf)...it does not matter to me.
The whole thing could crash after I am gone.

I am going to be in favor of what makes my life better now.
What you are advocating would 100% crash s*** NOW...which means we are all f***ed NOW.
That is not a choice I am willing to make.

So asking you "how to replace the current system" IS "an end all counter argument"
Offering me a better solution without a way to get there (that does not involve screwing me over) is worthless.
I will always choose the option that is best for ME (yes, I realize that others are involved in making my life better)

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#104 AnnoyedDragon
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I don't care.
I don't give a **** what system we use. We could switch to communism, a dictatorship, a monarchy, back to feudalism (so long as I am a lord and not serf)...it does not matter to me.
The whole thing could crash after I am gone.

I am going to be in favor of what makes my life better now.
What you are advocating would 100% crash s*** NOW...which means we are all f***ed NOW.
That is not a choice I am willing to make.

So asking you "how to replace the current system" IS "an end all counter argument"
Offering me a better solution without a way to get there (that does not involve screwing me over) is worthless.
I will always choose the option that is best for ME (yes, I realize that others are involved in making my life better)

rawsavon

The mistake you are making, as you did earlier, was to assume I'm for a crash. Earlier you said I wanted the system to crash, now you are saying what I advocate will cause a crash. Never mind that makes no sense, as you yourself said that I'm offering no alternative, so there is no alternative for me to push that would cause a crash.

As horrible as the current system is, I recognise that a economic crash would cause great suffering, no one wants that.

But look at what I said earlier. Firstly I was referring to past credit free systems, demonstrating a way of growth in a economy without reliance on credit. Secondly that I referred to no system being able to replace the current one until it is crashes, allowing a different one to take its place.

I neither want a crash to occur, nor wish to impose a system that would cause a crash. What I have said relates to something I made clear earlier.

This system is unsustainable and it is going to crash, it is just a matter of time. Your anger at me for talking about things that would hurt your personal wealth is misplaced, because the current system needs no help in crashing.

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#105 rawsavon
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The mistake you are making, as you did earlier, was to assume I'm for a crash. Earlier you said I wanted the system to crash, now you are saying what I advocate will cause a crash. Never mind that makes no sense, as you yourself said that I'm offering no alternative, so there is no alternative for me to push that would cause a crash.

As horrible as the current system is, I recognise that a economic crash would cause great suffering, no one wants that.

But look at what I said earlier. Firstly I was referring to past credit free systems, demonstrating a way of growth in a economy without reliance on credit. Secondly that I referred to no system being able to replace the current one until it is crashes, allowing a different one to take its place.

I neither want a crash to occur, nor wish to impose a system that would cause a crash. What I have said relates to something I made clear earlier.

This system is unsustainable and it is going to crash, it is just a matter of time. Your anger at me for talking about things that would hurt your personal wealth is misplaced, because the current system needs no help in crashing.

AnnoyedDragon

Anger???
...LULZ. You mistake apathy for anger. Not giving a **** =/= anger.
So long as I am taken care of, I do not care. There is no anger.

What I say makes perfect sense. You posted in a thread 'would you prefer.....' (as posted in the OP).
Your posts say that you are upset with the current system and prefer another...if that is not advocating for a change, then I don't know what is.

My point is that forced change (or any change) will **** with my money. This is something I will never support.
Unless, of course, you come up with some miracle way for an easy transition. If it happens on its own (a change), then there there is nothing I can do...but I wish to prolong that for as long as possible (preferably postmortem).

Though now you claim you are not supporting anything. I guess that means you just wanted to say you are upset with the current system and nothing more...like saying 'I don't like the current foreign policy' but then contributing nothing else to the discussion (like what you would do different now...not what decisions you disagree with in the past...that just seems pointless to me...like just complaining to complain)

TBH, you never really made anything clear until the last few pages. At first, you refused to answer the questions asked of you (and were still never to answer how it was fraud...given the definition of the word)

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#106 AnnoyedDragon
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Anger???
...LULZ. You mistake apathy for anger. Not giving a **** =/= anger.
So long as I am taken care of, I do not care. There is no anger.

What I say makes perfect sense. You posted in a thread 'would you prefer.....' (as posted in the OP).
Your posts say that you are upset with the current system and prefer another...if that is not advocating for a change, then I don't know what is.

My point is that forced change (or any change) will **** with my money. This is something I will never support.
Unless, of course, you come up with some miracle way for an easy transition. If it happens on its own (a change), then there there is nothing I can do...but I wish to prolong that for as long as possible (preferably postmortem).

Though now you claim you are not supporting anything. I guess that means you just wanted to say you are upset with the current system and nothing more...like saying 'I don't like the current foreign policy' but then contributing nothing else to the discussion (like what you would do different now...not what decisions you disagree with in the past...that just seems pointless to me...like just complaining to complain)

TBH, you never really made anything clear until the last few pages. At first, you refused to answer the questions asked of you (and were still never to answer how it was fraud...given the definition of the word)

rawsavon

Two things I wonder.

How long until you actually watch that video I referenced, and hence would understand my position much more clearly. Plus how long until you realize your defence of the current system is moot, because as I have repeatedly stated; it is going to crash and take your money with it. The reasons for this being in the recommended video.

Regardless, you've established your attitude on the matter.

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#107 CBR600-RR
Member since 2008 • 9695 Posts

what compelled you to bring up something so dry and devoid of common interest i can only speculate

edit: youre a member of the old folks union

i speculate no more

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:lol: :lol: I wanna have your babies.

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#108 CBR600-RR
Member since 2008 • 9695 Posts

I would ignore AnnoyedDragon, his posts are infertile.

edit: i love alcohol, sorry for the innapropriate posts :lol:

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#109 rawsavon
Member since 2004 • 40001 Posts

Two things I wonder.

How long until you actually watch that video I referenced, and hence would understand my position much more clearly. Plus how long until you realize your defence of the current system is moot, because as I have repeatedly stated; it is going to crash and take your money with it. The reasons for this being in the recommended video.

Regardless, you've established your attitude on the matter.

AnnoyedDragon

Didn't you say that it is like 30 min...that is not going to happen on my own time. Maybe when I am bored at work next week.
Going to crash =/= take my money if it is postmortem. All I care about it is lasting till then.