batman or captain america?

It's been done before. Batman defeated Captain America.Oleg_Huzwog

That's based on FAN VOTES. Captain America could throw his shield and damn near kill Batty in one hit. Remember, he's super-human. So even though Batman is at the peak of everything human, Cap surpasses that.. with flying colors. Everyone will go with Batman though, because for some reason he's "teh b3st sewprhero evaar".

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's been done before. Batman defeated Captain America.kerrman

That's based on FAN VOTES. Captain America could throw his shield and damn near kill Batty in one hit. Remember, he's super-human. So even though Batman is at the peak of everything human, Cap surpasses that.. with flying colors. Everyone will go with Batman though, because for some reason he's "teh b3st sewprhero evaar".

Batman knows the human body inside out and is trained by ninja's.

That and its not like the shield is 100% hit success and as you said nearlykill batty. Its been proven that Batman knows all the weakpoints and pressure points of a human and that in one blow he can kill a man and render him unconcious. Which he does, somewhere around the neck, I recall, giving a short term memory loss at that.

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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's been done before. Batman defeated Captain America.UltraZero

That's based on FAN VOTES. Captain America could throw his shield and damn near kill Batty in one hit. Remember, he's super-human. So even though Batman is at the peak of everything human, Cap surpasses that.. with flying colors. Everyone will go with Batman though, because for some reason he's "teh b3st sewprhero evaar".

Batman knows the human body inside out and is trained by ninja's.

That and its not like the shield is 100% hit success and as you said nearlykill batty. Its been proven that Batman knows all the weakpoints and pressure points of a human and that in one blow he can kill a man and render him unconcious. Which he does, somewhere around the neck, I recall, giving a short term memory loss at that.

Agreed, Batty knows his stuff. He's definitely a force to be reckoned with. BUT, everything you stated falls under Cap too. He's trained in many martial arts. Sure it's not a 100% hit success for the shield, but if you read Marvel then there's one arc after Civil War (cant recall what it was called), where SHIELD puts up their 100 best soldiers to test out Cap's shield. Something like 11 of them died, and all the rest were critically injured. In the hands of the only man that can actually USE the shield, it's one of the best weapons in comics.

And any pressure point Bats would go for can be countered you know.. just because he CAN do it, doesn't mean cap will stand there and let him jab his neck to make him unconcious.

Personally I would love to see these two fight because it's one of the best match ups ever possible any any comic book ever. They're very similar in a lot of ways, so it really is hard to choose. But like I said, most will go for Batman because his last two movies have drawn in a HUGE crowd. But Cap has always been my choice in a lot of combat situations.

Neither.

The Green Lanturn FTW!

ill just say it

batman

in just a pure hand to hand Cap would win. they're both are masters but cap's superhuman.

with both allowed to used stuff probably batman. he's got so many things that could possibly allow him to win.

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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's been done before. Batman defeated Captain America.kerrman

That's based on FAN VOTES. Captain America could throw his shield and damn near kill Batty in one hit. Remember, he's super-human. So even though Batman is at the peak of everything human, Cap surpasses that.. with flying colors. Everyone will go with Batman though, because for some reason he's "teh b3st sewprhero evaar".

Batman knows the human body inside out and is trained by ninja's.

That and its not like the shield is 100% hit success and as you said nearlykill batty. Its been proven that Batman knows all the weakpoints and pressure points of a human and that in one blow he can kill a man and render him unconcious. Which he does, somewhere around the neck, I recall, giving a short term memory loss at that.

Agreed, Batty knows his stuff. He's definitely a force to be reckoned with. BUT, everything you stated falls under Cap too. He's trained in many martial arts. Sure it's not a 100% hit success for the shield, but if you read Marvel then there's one arc after Civil War (cant recall what it was called), where SHIELD puts up their 100 best soldiers to test out Cap's shield. Something like 11 of them died, and all the rest were critically injured. In the hands of the only man that can actually USE the shield, it's one of the best weapons in comics.

And any pressure point Bats would go for can be countered you know.. just because he CAN do it, doesn't mean cap will stand there and let him jab his neck to make him unconcious.

Personally I would love to see these two fight because it's one of the best match ups ever possible any any comic book ever. They're very similar in a lot of ways, so it really is hard to choose. But like I said, most will go for Batman because his last two movies have drawn in a HUGE crowd. But Cap has always been my choice in a lot of combat situations.

ANd do you think Batman would just scream

"BAT-FU!" And jump at Captain America while he has a shield?

Or would he rather use his infinite BatGadgets. He is as deadly with a Batarang as Captain America is.. imagine 3 Batarangs going at once while Cap shows his shield.

And yes, as far as similarity goes, "Bucky and Robin".

Bucky and RobinUltraZero

That'd be one lame-ass crossover story.

[QUOTE="UltraZero"]Bucky and RobinOleg_Huzwog

That'd be one lame-ass crossover story.

It actually happened, Batman and Robin teams up with Cap and BUcky in an old Comic issue. Old one... where homosexual was implied... in it Cap and Bucky and Robin and Batman were both given homosexual implications by their partners....

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[QUOTE="UltraZero"]Bucky and RobinUltraZero

That'd be one lame-ass crossover story.

It actually happened, Batman and Robin teams up with Cap and BUcky in an old Comic issue. Old one... where homosexual was implied... in it Cap and Bucky and Robin and Batman were both given homosexual implications by their partners....

They've also briefly swapped partners (heh, that sounded dirty) where Bucky became Batman's sidekick and Robin tagged along with Captain America.

The peak of human perfection is Big Boss.

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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's been done before. Batman defeated Captain America.UltraZero

That's based on FAN VOTES. Captain America could throw his shield and damn near kill Batty in one hit. Remember, he's super-human. So even though Batman is at the peak of everything human, Cap surpasses that.. with flying colors. Everyone will go with Batman though, because for some reason he's "teh b3st sewprhero evaar".

Batman knows the human body inside out and is trained by ninja's.

That and its not like the shield is 100% hit success and as you said nearlykill batty. Its been proven that Batman knows all the weakpoints and pressure points of a human and that in one blow he can kill a man and render him unconcious. Which he does, somewhere around the neck, I recall, giving a short term memory loss at that.

Agreed, Batty knows his stuff. He's definitely a force to be reckoned with. BUT, everything you stated falls under Cap too. He's trained in many martial arts. Sure it's not a 100% hit success for the shield, but if you read Marvel then there's one arc after Civil War (cant recall what it was called), where SHIELD puts up their 100 best soldiers to test out Cap's shield. Something like 11 of them died, and all the rest were critically injured. In the hands of the only man that can actually USE the shield, it's one of the best weapons in comics.

And any pressure point Bats would go for can be countered you know.. just because he CAN do it, doesn't mean cap will stand there and let him jab his neck to make him unconcious.

Personally I would love to see these two fight because it's one of the best match ups ever possible any any comic book ever. They're very similar in a lot of ways, so it really is hard to choose. But like I said, most will go for Batman because his last two movies have drawn in a HUGE crowd. But Cap has always been my choice in a lot of combat situations.

ANd do you think Batman would just scream

"BAT-FU!" And jump at Captain America while he has a shield?

Or would he rather use his infinite BatGadgets. He is as deadly with a Batarang as Captain America is.. imagine 3 Batarangs going at once while Cap shows his shield.

And yes, as far as similarity goes, "Bucky and Robin".

Since I'm about to head out with my girl friend (I find it ironic, seeing how I'm on an internet forum arguing about super heroes), I'll debunk what you just said and leave it at that. Cap has a very high pain tolerance, 3 little metal batterangs would stab in about an inch, then be brushed off. Cap has been shot and kept fighting. And as for the whole "infinite batgadgets" Who says Bats saw this fight coming? If he had time to prepare for this fight, then yeah he could make something to fight a super human. Other than that.. he has a grappling hook.. and what,, Batmace.. woooo so scary. Also, super-human agility would kinda put Bats to shame in a hand to hand fight, let alone when he threw his ingeniously crafted bat shaped pieces of metal.

And no, I don't think Batman would just jump at him screaming. Because unlike you, I'm giving the opposition the chance to fight, and a chance to win. I'm not just saying "Oh there's no chance Batman could win" Oh there is, believe me, both have equal chances. I just think that in a fight between the two, my personal choice is Captain America.

As far as Bucky and Robin go, for shame :P lol

Since I'm about to head out with my girl friend (I find it ironic, seeing how I'm on an internet forum arguing about super heroes), I'll debunk what you just said and leave it at that. Cap has a very high pain tolerance, 3 little metal batterangs would stab in about an inch, then be brushed off. Cap has been shot and kept fighting. And as for the whole "infinite batgadgets" Who says Bats saw this fight coming? If he had time to prepare for this fight, then yeah he could make something to fight a super human. Other than that.. he has a grappling hook.. and what,, Batmace.. woooo so scary. Also, super-human agility would kinda put Bats to shame in a hand to hand fight, let alone when he threw his ingeniously crafted bat shaped pieces of metal.

And no, I don't think Batman would just jump at him screaming. Because unlike you, I'm giving the opposition the chance to fight, and a chance to win. I'm not just saying "Oh there's no chance Batman could win" Oh there is, believe me, both have equal chances. I just think that in a fight between the two, my personal choice is Captain America.

As far as Bucky and Robin go, for shame :P lol

kerrman

Batgrapple is actualy effective once you have it stuck pass through your head.

2. Batman can counter any physical martial arts Cap can throw because Batman knows like every effing thing there is when it comes to combat.

3. And Batman has fought others with super agility. not to mention peak human condition is somewhat of a super-agility compared to normal humans not to mention I recall Captain America being beaten up with people without super-agility at all.

4. As for the CW thing up there. Captain America had to kill 11, Give Batman a shield and he could take down 100 without any casualties at all, he's that damn good. Plus a ninja as I said before.

5. As for giving the opposition a chance, I did. Captain America would win. slight chance of victory if he happens to face Batman, handicapped, Bruce Wayne from Batman Beyond, that version.

Is it me or was I repeating some of the points?

Batman

but on a side note, shouldn't this be batman vs ironman. both are normal humans who use their billions of dollars to maintain their superhero abilities

Batman...Captain America is just too cheesy.jointed

are you calling america chessy

[QUOTE="jointed"]Batman...Captain America is just too cheesy.virtuas

are you calling america chessy

Nope, I'm calling Captain America..."cheesy".

Batman

but on a side note, shouldn't this be batman vs ironman. both are normal humans who use their billions of dollars to maintain their superhero abilities

indian_playa

You should catch up on your Marvel.

Tony Stark has Superpowers.

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Batman

but on a side note, shouldn't this be batman vs ironman. both are normal humans who use their billions of dollars to maintain their superhero abilities

UltraZero

You should catch up on your Marvel.

Tony Stark has Superpowers.

Cap, even though he died....

But I was reading one of the newer comics and Bucky is now Cap with firearms...nice.

Batman, is the pinnacle of human perfection. He trained for years to get where he is.
Cap A is not the pinnacle of human perfection, he was given a serum to enhance him.

In a fight, I'd say they're equal fighters, with Cap winning only because he's faster and stronger.

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Batman

but on a side note, shouldn't this be batman vs ironman. both are normal humans who use their billions of dollars to maintain their superhero abilities

PannicAtack

You should catch up on your Marvel.

Tony Stark has Superpowers.

Batman...hell...he can take down Bane and Bane would Pummel Captain Lamesauce....Omni-Slash

Aww no poll?

Anyways, it's Batman for me.

You are tragically mistaken :(xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"]You are tragically mistaken :(Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="xaos"]You are tragically mistaken :(Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"] I have two words for you: Bat. Nipples. And morexaos