Bernie is winning the primaries and here's the proof

They want someone that isn't a corporate puppet for a change. Plus, the person he is running against for the nomination is a criminal who's possibly the most dishonest presidential candidate we've ever seen.

Where is your evidence that they hacked into the Sander's campaign voter database? "Probably" is not evidence. Even if states did take Bernie voters off the roll, you have not proved that the Clinton campaign was behind this. If you want to prove this, you need credible sources.

Where is your evidence that Bill Clinton's presence affected the outcome? How does that invalidate all those lopsided Southern wins, lopsided wins in Florida, Ohio, which are the states that given her her huge delegate lead.

As for Arizona's polls, Clinton's campaign does not control poll station closures. If you believe that they were behind it, prove this with evidence. .

Even if the DNC was helping her win, that doesn't mean they're cheating. Cheating is specific. You have not proved that any cheating occured.

Also saying "Hillary is the most corrupt politician in US history" is not evidence.

This pattern of making wild claims with no evidence is all to typical of Sanders supporters. Why are his supporters so allergic to math and evidence?

Bernie is just feeding you pipe dreams though. None of what he is proposing is going to pass the House. His free college plan is as silly as Trump building a wall and making Mexico pay for it. Those things don't make any financial or logical sense. Trump and Sanders are both playing to their bases. Luckily, young voters don't seem to actually show up to the polls. Anyone who openly says they want to redistribute wealth isn't serious about being President. No one outside of a college campus is going to take that seriously.

Yeah, things are getting pretty strange. Sanders supporters are as rabid and oblivious as those crazy Tea Party Palin supporters.

First, you'd have to be the most naive person on the planet to not think Hillary is corrupt. in fact, you'd have to be down right stupid. She used a noise machine to prevent the press from hearing a private speech she was giving to a big money doner. And the DNC, and the establishment at large wants Hillary to win.

And the exit polls in Mass showed Bernie winning by a good margin.

The DNC has to be neutral, not actively help a candidate win. Cheating or not, they strongly favor her.

Typical Shillary supporter, denies that real change can actually occur, and remains in denial about her corruption. Sheep perfectly describes you.

I didn't say Hillary is not corrupt. I said that you have no evidence that she cheated in this particular election. And you don't.

If you think she cheated, where is your evidence? Evidence=credible sources. Evidence/=/your conjecture.

WTF are you talking about? When did I ever say I was a Hillary supporter? And do you know how Government works? A President doesn't just walk into the White House and start making laws. Bernie isn't going to get sworn in and make College free for everyone on the first day. The House and Senate are controlled by the Republicans right now. Nothing Bernie has been telling you is going to happen. None of it.

How the hell do you think FDR got thing done? by promising to give everyone BJs? No, he refused to negotiate, he threatened to end the career of any politician that disagreed with him by funding, and supporting whoever would be running against them later on. He was extremely tough, and didn't play ball.

@AlexKidd5000: Lol wow. "Extremely Tough"? FDR had a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Thats how he got things done. Not to mention that was over 70 years ago..... The world is a tad different now.

The repub obstructionism is a non-issue, Obama never even tried to deal with them. He just used them as an excuse to keep everything the same.

LOL. Maybe one needed to follow the day-to-day operations and maneuvering of the executive and legislative branches to see it, but this is nonsense.

Yeah, back then politicians actually worked together.

Also, entirely different country. Entirely different world. Population of the US was ~125 million when FDR took office. Coming out of the Great Depression and one war, and going into another. WWII to help weaken the rest of the world while strengthening the US as a world power (something it was not).

FDR is a demigod relative to the rest of the presidents of the US, but he had a pretty damn good setup when he took office and throughout his terms.

Yeah. I get not liking Obama for various things, but that was a BS statement: I don't think there's been a president in history that had to deal with such barriers, not from within his own damn government, at least.

Some of those folks in congress should be tried for treason.

As for Obama, what he has accomplished is pretty amazing, not just on its own, but especially because of the resistance he received.

I love how people say Hillary's a criminal when she hasn't been charged for anything.

She should be tried as a war criminal along with bush and cheney though. anyone who helps kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people should be in prison.

And do you honestly think the republicans are going to be able to hang on to congress and the senate after this election? Hell no.

What do you guys think can Bernie win New York? He's going to need 0 senior moments during the next debate

but if that goes well I think anything can happen. Polls show Hillary's lead is down to 14 points, it was 30 just a few weeks ago I think

Republicans likely have the House locked up for several more years. The Senate is in play, but flipping it isn't a lock either.

What is the appeal of Hillary? Im just curious. Do people really like her or are they just voting because they think she'd win the presidency? I mean, she's pretty slimy, deceitful and very polarizing. I'd rather see almost anyone else in the democratic party get the nomination before her. I really dislike her and what she stands for - or that she really stands for nothing.

@sonicare: Are you asking why someone would vote for her over Bernie, or why someone would vote for her in the General? I see those as two entirely separate scenarios.

@sonicare:

The appeal of Hillary is quite simple.....she will realistically get positive things done in the White House, and none of the others will with the POSSIBLE exception of John Kasich.

To me that's the bottom line. She will be watched closely when she is president, so she isn't going to have much wiggle room to do something untrustworthy.

It's like we live in different versions of the U.S. or something. The House will stay red through this next Presidents term. ESPECIALLY if the Democratic President is talking about redistributing wealth and increasing Governments role in our lives. That's how the conservatives took the House back in the first place...... Put the Kool-Aid down and open your eyes Kidd. You are really no better than these silly Trump supporters. What you are supporting isn't real. Bern is mocking the system and taking college aged kids for a ride.

Lol, whateves. you need to open your eyes, and realize that anything can be done. I'm really not in the mood to have anymore corrupt corporate shills in the white house.

@AlexKidd5000: anything can be done, but try telling the rest of the country that.

No...it's only one of the big two; a corporate democrat, or a backwards republican. God forbid there's a third or *gasp* fourth option!

With that said, the best kind of change occurs slowly, with thought and intent. I don't think we should try, nor expect, people to just embrace severe change. Sanders and Trump are both extremes to many moderate democrats.

With that said, Sanders has my vote, but I don't expect every young democrat to vote for him.

@ianhh6: It did look like that pig, Trump, was actually going to win, didn't it? It was devastatingly disappointing..I remember when he had a reality show, opened his own college as a scam & patented the phrase you're fired..all for the hell of it. Just goes to show how badly the fact that idiots make up the majority of voters can affect our nation. Good thing "Anonymous" declared total war on him and is currently taking him down. Idk if anyone else couldve done anything about it..what a relief. I'd also love to see a woman be president. I'm not sure if Hillary is the best candidate tho..for one, I've never liked her because she is still married to Bill despite his infidelity, not a good example for our rising succesful young women. Two, she's reached an age where she's at a very high risk for any one of many unstable mental and hormonal conditions could creep up on her at any moment. Her dedication, hard work & unstoppable efforts efforts are admirable tho. I pity her for the way pple have crucified her.

Just vote for him, and hope for the best. If we keep supporting him while he is in the white house, his chances of changing the system will be much better.

I don't believe that. She was put in charge of health care reform and creating a single payer system when Bill was president. Never got accomplished. She's not a held an executive position in governement - she's been a senator, but never a governor. She doesnt get things done in the senate, she's part of a large collective and many of her votes have been disastrous. She voted for Iraq war.

Her main position of leadership has been as Secretary of State and she's been one of the worst ones in recent memory. Her legacy for that is Benghazi, expansion of Isis, failed policies in Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and contributed to the terrible Iran nuclear deal - which they have already allegedly broken.

Her foreign policy has been relatively hawkish in the middle east and turns a blind eye to any trangressions by Israel.

I dont see why people think she's a great leader or that she has some wonderful ability to get things done. Even people in her own party hate her - check Biden, OMalley, and Obama, i.e. and obviously the republicans hate her. Doubt she would be effective.

@lelebby1990: Meh, you'll find stupidity everywhere... nothing will be written in stone until the actual elections, given that it isn't the entire populace voting in the republican primaries.

As for Hillary, her business with Bill Clinton is her own, not ours. She's a fine example in many ways for both boys and girls, regardless of one's opinions about her husband's infidelity. She's also younger than both Bernie and Trump, who honestly seem to be letting their age show way more than Hillary. There's no way around having an oldie as president this time.

Over Bernie. If trump is the republican nominee, I'd vote for any other candidate, possibly even pol pot.

@sonicare: Bernie has flaws of his own (Federal Reserve demagoguery, damaging Socialist label, more niche appeal/shrinks the Democratic tent, stated plans that have no chance of passing the Republican House (or Republican Senate if it remains), and many simply don't agree with some of his platform which encompasses some swift and drastic changes.

The main stream media is trying to smear him with the fed nonsense. And only stupid people who see things from a warped radical right wing perspective have any problem with bernies democratic socialist title. Bernie has a far greater chance of getting the things he wants than Hillary the corrupt scumbag, who won't even entertain the idea of getting money out of politics, or bringing jobs back to america.

Social security is a pyramid scheme. It's a very bad example of socialism working great. It will eventually fail.

And how are people paying a fair share by subsidizing other people's medical bills, college education, and other benefits as Bernie wants? That's straight up robbery.

I mean, in the case of the military and roads there is a "fair share" argument because it's hard for anyone to pay for it directly, or for anyone to pay for only what they use. But telling people they need to pay more in taxes because others need money for all the avoidable medical problems they gained over a lifetime of bad decisions, or to pay for the college education of other people's kids is not "paying their fair share".

I'm not even referring to any smears. Bernie has been trending far too close to the anti-fed crowd for my tests, and he went over the line when he called for the so-called "Audit the Fed" bill. I don't know if he's pandering or if he's truly misinformed enough on the issue to support it, but regardless it's something to keep at arms length.

"And only stupid people who see things from a warped radical right wing perspective have any problem with bernies democratic socialist title."

We agree. But there are a lot of them and they will be repelled in an election.

What about auditing the fed do you disagree with? Keep in mind that I too am very jaded by Ron Paul and his acolytes. But shouldnt there be a discussion about the Fed? It's a private corporation that has zero oversight, is not beholding to the American public, and lends our country money at interest. What is wrong with exposing these world destroyers to the light?

It doesn't have zero oversight. It's audited on a regular basis and on demand.

It's not entirely public, but it's not entirely private, either. It's... complicated, largely because it's designed to be firewalled off from political influence.

Which gets to the heart of the issue. The recent "Audit the Fed" proposals are meant to erode the Fed's independence and allow for more Congressional influence over their policies. This would be disastrous in large part because Congress already exerts a high degree of influence over fiscal policy. If both fiscal policy and monetary policy were influenced by the universally reviled and paralyzed Congress it would not be able to act in time of moments of crisis. Monetary and fiscal reactions are most powerful when they are quick.

As an addendum, the Federal Reserve doesn't really lend the country money and charge interest while doing so. In truth, their profits are diverted back into the Treasury. But at any rate, the interest rate is a tool for controlling the supply of currency by increasing or decreasing the cost at which banks can borrow money from the Fed.

You'd have to be an idiot or a masochist to support Bernie Sanders. Not because of his economic policies but rather because of his support for radical self-hating leftists that hates the US/Europe and what they stand for.

@Shewgenja: I was discussing with coworker how you read about Bernie Sanders winning all over the place and huge rallies and then if you watch the major tv news agencies they constantly try to make him look bad. Its actually pretty pathetic the news agencies are so politically motivated and false.

Yeah, this election cycle has been crazy. You can literally see the mainstream news lying to your face and trying to sculpt the election. Not only with its coverage of Bernie but also of other candidates as well. Meanwhile, no one asks how Kasich is able to fund his campaign, for instance.

The best example of this was a few days back where all the candidates were doing their big speeches.. Hillary, Cruz, Trump.... And Bernie Sanders.. The media covered all of them except for Sanders..

So everyone should just blindly vote for him is what you're trying to say.

Yeah, I think we should all throw critical thinking out the window too. Who needs that anyway.

Explain how such a broad statement is at all true.

Personally I think if this election comes down to Trump and Hillary, or Cruz and Hillary, perhaps this country will be better off with no president at all. (That is of course, if that were to actually happen the Senate and House of Reps, and congress, needs to be wiped clean as well. Lots of harmful bacteria and parasites in there that need to be flushed out.)

The outlook of this country is looking far too grim.

@CountBleck12 said:

@AlexKidd5000 said:

Just vote for him, and hope for the best. If we keep supporting him while he is in the white house, his chances of changing the system will be much better.

So everyone should just blindly vote for him is what you're trying to say.

Yeah, I think we should all throw critical thinking out the window too. Who needs that anyway.

Yes! be blind with us! and yee shall go far!

I want Trump to win just to see if it breaks the GOP in half. I'm conservative myself, but the GOP is so far removed from supporting basic conservative principles it's not even funny. It's such a terrible party, and it's never represented me in my entire life.

And hey, maybe a Trump victory will shake up the Democratic side of the table as well.

Anything to potentially destroy the current system is fine with me.

Yeah we won't agree on this: I am a "greater good" kind of person, others such as yourself (I guess?) are less charitable and more concerned with keeping money than seeing it used wisely, and others are willing to compromise (I wish more would, though).

I'd rather pay less in medical expenses for myself, help contribute to the betterment of my fellows, and pay a slightly increased tax rate than the alternative; insignificantly lower tax rate, astronomically higher medical expenses, and no help for my fellows.

To each their own, I guess. I don't really feel robbed, however, by the former example. I do feel robbed, and have been "robbed", by the latter. Nothing worse than working your ass off at your job while getting paid too little (but hey, if economic crisis 2008 taught us anything, its that we should expect more work from fewer employees for less money/benefits), getting injured at your job, and paying 1500 dollars for a few stitches.

The GOP won't be the only thing that will most likely break in half.

I'm sure those who have a strong disdain towards Trump will cause up shit by getting violent outside their streets. But they're good people they say, it's justice for America right?

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that were to occur.

@mrbojangles25: It's arguable that such political stances are a significant part of what's driving a wedge between the Republican party. We'll have to wait to see how the party heals or reforms to come to any significant conclusion, though.

I hope so; the radicals that infested the GOP and direct the party, whether from within or without, are doing a lot of damage. I really do not dislike Republicans, but I see what they have become and I long for a Reagan or Bush Sr. just so if democrats or [god willing] a third party does not win, the country is not left in the hands of a Trump or Cruz. Those two lunatics would be the end of us. Then again, Trump does have a big dick according to Trump...

Winning the primaries?

Hillary wins big in New York, and once she wins here in Pennsylvania, the race is over.

I thought you were from Maryland O_o