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[QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"] Darth Vader would like to have a word with youSPYDER0416
I'm talking about villainy in terms of flat-out nastiness and psychosis. Sure, Vader is menacing, but Joker would laugh right in his face.
Let's put this in simpler terms:
Mark Hamill's Joker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Earl Jones' Vader
I think you have to base a villain on his motives and personality more then what he is capable of.
Vader might have strong powers and be on the dark side, but he's a good person inside, and though he is capable of terrible evil (letting a planet of billions die), he isn't motivated by pure greed and evil.
Voldemort too doesn't have purely evil means. He's a narcissist and a sociopath, but he doesn't want to torture and kill a bunch of people for the fun of it, even if he could. He just wants great power and happens to be corrupt.
Joker is the worst. If he had access to the money and technology someone like Vader had or the magic of Voldemort, he'd plunge the world into anarchy. You never know what he'll do, he has no clear motives, he changes based on the situation. He's willing to screw allies over, mistreats henchman, destroys things for the fun of it and hurts and kills just for the fun of it. He is evil out of enjoyment of doing evil, and he also happens to be insane, cunning and messed up, which easily makes him much more evil
Better though, is subjective I guess. He's certainly almost pure evil and terrifying given the right circumstances, but I think less evil, more humanized villains like Frank Costello are great because they sort of embody a true to life cunning and greed.
Still though, I'm going with Joker.
Hm but Vader has killed billions of people. Or had them killed. Joker hasn't killed anywhere near that. They're both boss though.
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