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#1 joannaeden
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By analysis the Bible you and I can get to know about our creator Jehovah. We can also learn a great deal of practical wisdom. The excellence of putting into practice useful facts. As a Bible proverb says: “perception is the prime thing. Acquire insight; and with all that you acquire, acquire understanding.” This maxim gives us a hint of how to enjoy our Bible reading and study. We must see practical results from liability so. We must understand the payback of what we are reading for us to really enjoy it. Joanna Eden
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#2 black_cat19
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Uh-huh ...

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#3 domatron23
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So... the Bible should be read with perception and insight? Okay will do.
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#4 Shad0ki11
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Welcome to Gamespot.

The perfect place for unsuccessful proselytization.

rage

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#5 th3warr1or
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right, I read the bible and I still have no idea what you're saying.
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#6 shoot-first
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I believe I read the part where it is said we don't know him as Jehovah, but as "our God." Isn't it disrespectful to call God by his name? :\

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#7 jimmyjammer69
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Well, I'm sold.
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#8 BiancaDK
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sounds good -- will there be complimentary t-shirts at intro week?
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I believe I read the part where it is said we don't know him as Jehovah, but as "our God." Isn't it disrespectful to call God by his name? :\

shoot-first

Isn't God's real name YHWH?

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I believe I read the part where it is said we don't know him as Jehovah, but as "our God." Isn't it disrespectful to call God by his name? :\

shoot-first
It is.. well it is if you're Christian/Jewish.
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#11 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

I believe I read the part where it is said we don't know him as Jehovah, but as "our God." Isn't it disrespectful to call God by his name? :\

Shad0ki11

Isn't God's real name YHWH?

Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J.
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#12 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

I believe I read the part where it is said we don't know him as Jehovah, but as "our God." Isn't it disrespectful to call God by his name? :\

th3warr1or

Isn't God's real name YHWH?

Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J.

What about YaHWeH? :O

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#13 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Isn't God's real name YHWH?

Shad0ki11

Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J.

What about YaHWeH? :O

That's how House says it, so I'll go with that. :P

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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Isn't God's real name YHWH?

Shad0ki11

Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J.

What about YaHWeH? :O

Damn, you beat me to it.
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#15 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J. black_cat19

What about YaHWeH? :O

That's how House says it, so I'll go with that. :P

People have been pronouncing it Yahweh even before House existed. :|

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#16 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

What about YaHWeH? :O

Shad0ki11

That's how House says it, so I'll go with that. :P

People have been pronouncing it Yahweh even before House existed. :|

I was joking...? Like, not being serious... get the concept...? :|

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#17 darkhorse286
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Okay...

Can I ask what the point of this thread is?

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#18 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Isn't God's real name YHWH?

Shad0ki11

Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J.

What about YaHWeH? :O

Both work actually. Either way, i'd stay away from using that as a swear. PS: There is a book about how many names God has(no offense to anyone but Allah isn't one of them, so we're worshipping a different God).
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#19 Jekken6
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TC, religious topics are not a good way to be popular on OT.

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#20 th3warr1or
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Okay...

Can I ask what the point of this thread is?

darkhorse286
That is the question, no one knows or bothered that the fact that "Joannaeden" registered today and hasn't even made a reply to this thread.

TC, religious topics are not a good way to be popular on OT.

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I doubt she cares.
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#21 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J. th3warr1or

What about YaHWeH? :O

Both work actually. Either way, i'd stay away from using that as a swear. PS: There is a book about how many names God has(no offense to anyone but Allah isn't one of them, so we're worshipping a different God).

Allah is Arabic for God.

Fail.

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so, joanna, how was your easter?
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I prefer the Neon Bible myself. Amazing album.
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Yes, but because there are no vowels in it, it's pronounced as YeHoVaH which is spelled with a J. black_cat19

What about YaHWeH? :O

That's how House says it, so I'll go with that. :P

Jehovah and Yahweh are the same thing. The original Hebrew had no vowels and only have many years did the scholars add vowels (looks like dots). The Tetragrammaton (YHWH) was never given vowels because the name of God was thought to be so holy, they would not even pronounce His name. The reason is also linked to the third commandment's warning not to misuse the Lord's name. As a result, how the name is pronounced is not easy to find out. Hundreds of years ago people tried to figure out how the word was pronounced and Jehovah became the typical translation. More recent scholarly work thinks the word to be pronounced Yahweh. The origin of the name comes from Exodus 3:14, "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "" Based upon this text and a comparison of YHWH to other words within the Hebrew language, the name is some literal variant of I AM. YHWH is the personal name of God and any time it is used is to stress now only God's nature (can best be described as HE IS). As the word was never pronounced by the ancient Jews, the word Elohim was put in its place. Elohim means God (also used as gods. The plural nature of the word is used for emphasis). Anytime you read the Old Testament and LORD is in all capital letters, it has the name YHWH. If you read the New Testament, especially John, Jesus makes I AM statements. Many times he refers to himself as I AM and as a result, the Pharisees seek to murder him on the spot... eventually doing so on the cross. By the way, Jesus died for committing blasphemy, not making political statements. :wink: Within the Greek Old Testament, the LXX, the word used in the place of YHWH is also used in Paul's writings. Paul's favorite name for Jesus is Lord and is rooted in the name YHWH. Paul's claim that Jesus is Lord is not only showing a power over us but an ultimate power.
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I watched Babel. It was ok.
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#26 shinian
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Not long ago I have read a book called The Last Lecture of Randy Pausch. It's based on this video IMO it's 10 times more useful in terms how to live a good life than the Bible.

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#27 sensfanVone
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Hmmm...

The God thing never really worked out for me, I was raised a christian and had myself brainwashed, now I'm trying to figure things out for myself rather then believing a book inspired by God but written by men.

Whether I'm walking the wrong path or not will be revealed in time I'm sure, but until then, preaching on a video game forum is a strange approach.

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#28 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

What about YaHWeH? :O

mindstorm

That's how House says it, so I'll go with that. :P

Jehovah and Yahweh are the same thing. The original Hebrew had no vowels and only have many years did the scholars add vowels (looks like dots). The Tetragrammaton (YHWH) was never given vowels because the name of God was thought to be so holy, they would not even pronounce His name. The reason is also linked to the third commandment's warning not to misuse the Lord's name. As a result, how the name is pronounced is not easy to find out. Hundreds of years ago people tried to figure out how the word was pronounced and Jehovah became the typical translation. More recent scholarly work thinks the word to be pronounced Yahweh. The origin of the name comes from Exodus 3:14, "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "" Based upon this text and a comparison of YHWH to other words within the Hebrew language, the name is some literal variant of I AM. YHWH is the personal name of God and any time it is used is to stress now only God's nature (can best be described as HE IS). As the word was never pronounced by the ancient Jews, the word Elohim was put in its place. Elohim means God (also used as gods. The plural nature of the word is used for emphasis). Anytime you read the Old Testament and LORD is in all capital letters, it has the name YHWH. If you read the New Testament, especially John, Jesus makes I AM statements. Many times he refers to himself as I AM and as a result, the Pharisees seek to murder him on the spot... eventually doing so on the cross. By the way, Jesus died for committing blasphemy, not making political statements. :wink: Within the Greek Old Testament, the LXX, the word used in the place of YHWH is also used in Paul's writings. Paul's favorite name for Jesus is Lord and is rooted in the name YHWH. Paul's claim that Jesus is Lord is not only showing a power over us but an ultimate power.

You know, it's great that you're so knowledgeable and all, you're one of my most respected religious users on here (and I'm atheist), but I was just making a reference to House MD being a great show, and I didn't really want anyone to read any more than that into my comment...

I wonder if I did something wrong, seeing as both you and Shado0ki misunderstood my post...

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#29 mindstorm
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You know, it's great that you're so knowledgeable and all, you're one of my most respected religious users on here (and I'm atheist), but I was just making a reference to House MD being a great show, and I didn't really want anyone to read any more than that into my comment...

I wonder if I did something wrong, seeing as both you and Shado0ki misunderstood my post...

black_cat19

Oh, I understood your post and thought it was funny. I just grabbed the last post regarding the subject and went with it. Sorry if I confused you a little. :P

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Isn't Jenovah a fictional god-like being portrayed in FF?

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#31 black_cat19
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Isn't Jenovah a fictional god-like being portrayed in FF?

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I lol'd. :P

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#32 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]You know, it's great that you're so knowledgeable and all, you're one of my most respected religious users on here (and I'm atheist), but I was just making a reference to House MD being a great show, and I didn't really want anyone to read any more than that into my comment...

I wonder if I did something wrong, seeing as both you and Shado0ki misunderstood my post...

mindstorm

Oh, I understood your post and thought it was funny. I just grabbed the last post regarding the subject and went with it. Sorry if I confused you a little. :P

Huh, I guess I got a little too defensive after Shado0ki's post, sorry about that. :P

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*goes and reads bible* by golly, he's right!
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The interesting thing about "Jehovah" is that it's a name that Masorites came up with because they were concerned about writing the Tetragrammaton. It's basically a hybrid form that's more of a redaction than an actual name. Plus, anyone can say something's from the Bible, but it would help if you pointed to a book or verse. But... if you're only here to proselytize, then that's no different than a spam account I'm afraid.