Black Man Found Shot In The Head While In Patrol Car

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#51 EatShanna
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While I agree that this case is odd, I don't believe the killing was committed by the cops themselves. If you were to kill someone, would you really do it that way? Seems foolish and being a cop you would know better than to stage such a suspicious death. If they wanted him dead they could have made the whole thing seem like a righteous kill, or take him somewhere without witnesses and execute him. Killing him this way would raise too many eyebrows, too many questions will be asked and you'd look incompetent.
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#52 freek666
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It was the Slenderman

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#53 MgamerBD
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Sad...proving that racism will always be alive. Can never trust the pigs that abuse power either.
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#54 mrmusicman247
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gun wasn't police issue my guess. the guy went for the gun, then gun went off, the bullet ricocheted and hit him.
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#55 LJS9502_basic
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LOL at all the people jumping to conclusions with no facts in this thread.....
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#56 Inconsistancy
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gun wasn't police issue my guess. the guy went for the gun, then gun went off, the bullet ricocheted and hit him.mrmusicman247

Wat, in a car? The thin metal body of a car can't stop a bullet, and if it did, I don't think the bullet would even be able to kill you any more.

You can still shoot your self, easily, while sitting and handcuffed with your hands behind your back.

Let's say he was trying to shoot the handcuffs off from that position: he gets the gun out of his pocket(or wherever), places the gun on the seat facing up, muzzle under the chain, pushes the trigger with a free finger, all while looking down and to the right... shoots himself right in the head.

If it's not the police's fault, it's either suicide, or it looks like he may be in the running for a Darwin Award.

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#57 hippiesanta
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Al sharpton will emerge.......
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#58 VanHelsingBoA64
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My theory on what happened.

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#59 hydr0_32
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Police clearly killed him and planted the gun on him

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I agree. The PIGS murdered that man and they will tell what ever lie they want to the firearms review board and the board will cover for them, and the Chief of Police will lie for them to ... Welcome to America!

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#60 DerpyMcDerp
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Another fallen brother; another martyred Black man.

Just like Trayvon.

;_____;

FVCK DA POLICE

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#61 tocool340
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shrug

Not enough evidence to suggest anything so I'm not taking any sides here. And even if it were racially motivated like many of you like to believe, don't know if I should really care. There will always be someone getting killed somewhere in the world due to some form of discrimination rather race related or otherwise. I doubt such deaths will suddenly stop occurring....

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]gun wasn't police issue my guess. the guy went for the gun, then gun went off, the bullet ricocheted and hit him.Inconsistancy

Wat, in a car? The thin metal body of a car can't stop a bullet, and if it did, I don't think the bullet would even be able to kill you any more.

You can still shoot your self, easily, while sitting and handcuffed with your hands behind your back.

Let's say he was trying to shoot the handcuffs off from that position: he gets the gun out of his pocket(or wherever), places the gun on the seat facing up, muzzle under the chain, pushes the trigger with a free finger, all while looking down and to the right... shoots himself right in the head.

If it's not the police's fault, it's either suicide, or it looks like he may be in the running for a Darwin Award.

a ricocheted bullet can most definitely kill a person if they get hit in the head.
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#63 gamerguru100
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he probably shot himself, who knows. Also do we need to make a race issue out of everything? if the guy was white then this wouldn't be on the news

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#64 luis_07
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Where the hell is Jackson & Sharpton on this one? fvckin scumbags!

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#66 sexyweapons
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:lol:I love how TC twisted this into "Black man found shot in the head"to turn it into a crazy racism story

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I don't understand why so many people are hating on pigs. They are tasty.
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#68 LJS9502_basic
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:lol:I love how TC twisted this into "Black man found shot in the head"to turn it into a crazy racism story

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Look how many people believe they know what happened without any evidence to look at.....sad how stupid humans are.
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Why would the cops go out of their way to do all of this to kill a 21 year old kid? What's the purpose of killing a random kid caught for weed? If you're making it a race issue, what race were the cops? WeepsForFools
What difference does that make?
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#70 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="WeepsForFools"]Why would the cops go out of their way to do all of this to kill a 21 year old kid? What's the purpose of killing a random kid caught for weed? If you're making it a race issue, what race were the cops? thebest31406
What difference does that make?

You made it a racial issue.....that's why.
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#71 Inconsistancy
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a ricocheted bullet can most definitely kill a person if they get hit in the head. mrmusicman247
I didn't say ricochet can't kill, but at the high angle(s) required to 'shoot yourself' with the ricochet, out of a small handgun, I really don't think the bullet is going to retain enough energy to kill you. Unless of course you're shooting through a smoothly curved tube, then sure.

Ricochet doesn't work like in Alien Resurrection, each bounce loses energy and if it turned around it would first require 'all' the bullets forward momentum to have been stopped, and for the material to have been elastic enough to 'bounce' the bullet back.

Cars are no where near bulletproof, they're made of thin sheets of metal, not thick plates steel, possibility of any ricochet likely be nearly nonexistent, as the materials 'in' the car aren't elastic, thick or hard enough to stop and/or deflect a bullet.

And at what angle would he had to have shot the gun to get it to ricochet back into his head from inside a car?

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you're not understanding me. he didn't ricochet the bullet on purpose. for whatever reason he had the gun out, it went off by accident. ricocheted off a piece of the metal cage in the back of the police car and hit him the head. in simpler terms, the whole thing was a freak accident.
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="WeepsForFools"]Why would the cops go out of their way to do all of this to kill a 21 year old kid? What's the purpose of killing a random kid caught for weed? If you're making it a race issue, what race were the cops? LJS9502_basic
What difference does that make?

You made it a racial issue.....that's why.

Well the whole situation is a racial issue. He, like the majority of young black men in the US was stop and search for weed. When they found weed, he was put into the squad car. And if the death if found to be extrajudicial, he would be the 111 black victim of a extrajudicial killing. How is it not a racial issue?
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#74 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] What difference does that make?

You made it a racial issue.....that's why.

Well the whole situation is a racial issue. He, like the majority of young black men in the US was stop and search for weed. When they found weed, he was put into the squad car. And if the death if found to be extrajudicial, he would be the 111 black victim of a extrajudicial killing. How is it not a racial issue?

And you know there was no other reason for him to be stopped? You really shouldn't assume things. It's why we have these racial problems.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You made it a racial issue.....that's why.

Well the whole situation is a racial issue. He, like the majority of young black men in the US was stop and search for weed. When they found weed, he was put into the squad car. And if the death if found to be extrajudicial, he would be the 111 black victim of a extrajudicial killing. How is it not a racial issue?

And you know there was no other reason for him to be stopped? You really shouldn't assume things. It's why we have these racial problems.

Racial profiling and discrimination is why we have racial problems.
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#76 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Well the whole situation is a racial issue. He, like the majority of young black men in the US was stop and search for weed. When they found weed, he was put into the squad car. And if the death if found to be extrajudicial, he would be the 111 black victim of a extrajudicial killing. How is it not a racial issue?

And you know there was no other reason for him to be stopped? You really shouldn't assume things. It's why we have these racial problems.

Racial profiling and discrimination is why we have racial problems.

Perceived racial profiling and discrimination.......
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And you know there was no other reason for him to be stopped? You really shouldn't assume things. It's why we have these racial problems.

Racial profiling and discrimination is why we have racial problems.

Perceived racial profiling and discrimination.......

Right.
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#78 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Racial profiling and discrimination is why we have racial problems.

Perceived racial profiling and discrimination.......

Right.

Right. You take a very narrow action and assigned motivations that are not reported. That is irresponsible....
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Perceived racial profiling and discrimination.......

Right.

Right. You take a very narrow action and assigned motivations that are not reported. That is irresponsible....

Are you speaking of this story or racial profiling in general?
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#80 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Right.

Right. You take a very narrow action and assigned motivations that are not reported. That is irresponsible....

Are you speaking of this story or racial profiling in general?

Can be said of both really......many times people are quick to jump on the racism angle with little to no evidence that it actually existed. Yes racism does still exist in some people.....but it's not as prevalent as it was in the past. Look at your example. Nothing was said about race being a factor. Just that an individual in custody was dead. Cops say suicide. Mom says no. No one with any intelligence would or should read more into the story than that. We have no information about what happened at all other then the superficial facts. Yet your goal apparently was to turn this into a racial issue. That's irresponsible and ignorant.
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#81 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Right. You take a very narrow action and assigned motivations that are not reported. That is irresponsible....

Are you speaking of this story or racial profiling in general?

Can be said of both really......many times people are quick to jump on the racism angle with little to no evidence that it actually existed. Yes racism does still exist in some people.....but it's not as prevalent as it was in the past. Look at your example. Nothing was said about race being a factor. Just that an individual in custody was dead. Cops say suicide. Mom says no. No one with any intelligence would or should read more into the story than that. We have no information about what happened at all other then the superficial facts. Yet your goal apparently was to turn this into a racial issue. That's irresponsible and ignorant.

Did I not post a link regarding the number of unjustified killings. Did you know that last year, in new york alone, nearly 700,000 stop and frisks were conducted by police and 87 percent that were frisk were black and latino?
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#82 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Are you speaking of this story or racial profiling in general?

Can be said of both really......many times people are quick to jump on the racism angle with little to no evidence that it actually existed. Yes racism does still exist in some people.....but it's not as prevalent as it was in the past. Look at your example. Nothing was said about race being a factor. Just that an individual in custody was dead. Cops say suicide. Mom says no. No one with any intelligence would or should read more into the story than that. We have no information about what happened at all other then the superficial facts. Yet your goal apparently was to turn this into a racial issue. That's irresponsible and ignorant.

Did I not post a link regarding the number of unjustified killings. Did you know that last year, in new york alone, nearly 700,000 stop and frisks were conducted by police and 87 percent that were frisk were black and latino?

That has nothing to do with the situation you reported nor the supposed motivations.
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#83 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Can be said of both really......many times people are quick to jump on the racism angle with little to no evidence that it actually existed. Yes racism does still exist in some people.....but it's not as prevalent as it was in the past. Look at your example. Nothing was said about race being a factor. Just that an individual in custody was dead. Cops say suicide. Mom says no. No one with any intelligence would or should read more into the story than that. We have no information about what happened at all other then the superficial facts. Yet your goal apparently was to turn this into a racial issue. That's irresponsible and ignorant.

Did I not post a link regarding the number of unjustified killings. Did you know that last year, in new york alone, nearly 700,000 stop and frisks were conducted by police and 87 percent that were frisk were black and latino?

That has nothing to do with the situation you reported nor the supposed motivations.

Weren't we talking about racial profiling?
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#84 Inconsistancy
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you're not understanding me. he didn't ricochet the bullet on purpose. for whatever reason he had the gun out, it went off by accident. ricocheted off a piece of the metal cage in the back of the police car and hit him the head. in simpler terms, the whole thing was a freak accident. mrmusicman247

Of course he didn't 'try' to ricochet the bullet into his head you dolt, I'm saying it's stupidly improbable that it'd kill him even in the unlikely event that the bullet 'did' ricochet back to him. Why would you take an insanely unlikely way to die and think that it has any decent chance?

If he wasn't murdered, he probably did something stupid like facing(not necessarily holding it, possibly on the seat facing up) the gun up and accidentally, or intentionally pulling the trigger while looking at the down at the gun. Infinitely more likely than ricocheting a bullet (in a car no less) and killing himself.

Could have also just fallen on the floor of the car, and went off.

Your sig is Mythbusters, did you conveniently miss the episode where they tried to ricochet a bullet to the gunman with the bullet retaining its lethality?

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#85 mrmusicman247
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yes i did see that episode. they were were trying to ricochet the bullet 3 times. i'm only talking about one ricochet. also, i'm 99% sure he was handcuffed behind the back since you still can use your hands if they were in front. so it's not possible he looked down at the gun and shot himself.
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#86 JohnF111
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I don't think even the dumbest cop would try to pull the wool over the federals eyes on this, handcuffed behind his back after being searched and get shot himself in the head, it's too improbable for the police to even lie about, it must have been just as they say it was or they're just the worst liars in the history of the world. I mean think about it, the police did everything according to proper protocol and this happens, either he did indeed have a hidden gun and managed to shoot himself or the police just flat out shot him and never bothered to create a story. I'm going to say it's one of the two extremes, the first being that the man somehow managed to kill himself or a police man shot him out of pure hate and didn't even care about trying to cover it by planting a handcuff key on him or anything.