I feel like slapping anyone who compares this to what blacks went through. The only thing gays are crying about is marriage. Black have been killed because they were black, hanged, crosses burned on lawns, couldnt sit in the front of the bus, couldnt get decent education, and etc.
I couldn't understand what the African American lady was talking about. Was she against gay marrage or for it? It was so loud, seemed like a great debate.
I feel like slapping anyone who compares this to what blacks went through. The only thing gays are crying about is marriage. Black have been killed because they were black, hanged, crosses burned on lawns, couldnt sit in the front of the bus, couldnt get decent education, and etc.Tjeremiah1988
You have got to be joking me.... Your right black people were the only ones that were killed.....
I feel like slapping anyone who compares this to what blacks went through. The only thing gays are crying about is marriage. Black have been killed because they were black, hanged, crosses burned on lawns, couldnt sit in the front of the bus, couldnt get decent education, and etc.Tjeremiah1988
Homosexuals have been victimised a lot in recent history. Plenty have been abused, fired from their jobs, and murdered because of who they were. Black people weren't illegal. Black people couldn't get go to prison in the US because of who they are. Black people do not have to worry about recieving the death penalty or a life sentence if they live in certain countries in the world, even to this day. To say that the civil rights movement, now that blacks have their rights, is in no way comparable to the LGBT movement is closed-minded. Black people are not the only minority group to try and gain some basic rights in recent history.
Woo, I gotta see that one! But still, while I don't believe the struggle of blacks and the struggles of gays are directly comparable, there are some cases in which both struggles meet an equilibrium. The one thing that pops into my head is segregation and the Separate but Equal laws.
Woo, I gotta see that one! But still, while I don't believe the struggle of blacks and the struggles of gays are directly comparable, there are some cases in which both struggles meet an equilibrium. The one thing that pops into my head is segregation and the Separate but Equal laws.stevenk4k5
Well its bad to compare two struggles together but i personaly get offended when someone says a black persons struggles are un-comparable to that of a homosexual. They are almost exactly the same thing, except one is sexuality and the other is race....
w/e, all im saying is they need to stop comparing this to what black have went through. Gays are fighting to get married while blacks have struggle far more.
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]I feel like slapping anyone who compares this to what blacks went through. The only thing gays are crying about is marriage. Black have been killed because they were black, hanged, crosses burned on lawns, couldnt sit in the front of the bus, couldnt get decent education, and etc.mexicangordo
You have got to be joking me.... Your right black people were the only ones that were killed..... blacks and homosexuals im talking about.
[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"]Woo, I gotta see that one! But still, while I don't believe the struggle of blacks and the struggles of gays are directly comparable, there are some cases in which both struggles meet an equilibrium. The one thing that pops into my head is segregation and the Separate but Equal laws.mexicangordo
Well its bad to compare two struggles together but i personaly get offended when someone says a black persons struggles are un-comparable to that of a homosexual. They are almost exactly the same thing, except one is sexuality and the other is race....You can hide sexuality, but you can't hide your race.
w/e, all im saying is they need to stop comparing this to what black have went through. Gays are fighting to get married while blacks have struggle far more.[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]I feel like slapping anyone who compares this to what blacks went through. The only thing gays are crying about is marriage. Black have been killed because they were black, hanged, crosses burned on lawns, couldnt sit in the front of the bus, couldnt get decent education, and etc.Tjeremiah1988
You have got to be joking me.... Your right black people were the only ones that were killed..... blacks and homosexuals im talking about. So whats your point?
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]w/e, all im saying is they need to stop comparing this to what black have went through. Gays are fighting to get married while blacks have struggle far more.[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] You have got to be joking me.... Your right black people were the only ones that were killed..... mexicangordo
blacks and homosexuals im talking about. So whats your point? I already stated my point..
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="stevenk4k5"]Woo, I gotta see that one! But still, while I don't believe the struggle of blacks and the struggles of gays are directly comparable, there are some cases in which both struggles meet an equilibrium. The one thing that pops into my head is segregation and the Separate but Equal laws.Silverbond
Well its bad to compare two struggles together but i personaly get offended when someone says a black persons struggles are un-comparable to that of a homosexual. They are almost exactly the same thing, except one is sexuality and the other is race....You can hide sexuality, but you can't hide your race. So someone has to hide who they are in order for them to not get beaten up, harassed....killed? Great, your right! Even now in 2008 as long as gay people hide themselves, they wont get harassed.... :|
[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Well its bad to compare two struggles together but i personaly get offended when someone says a black persons struggles are un-comparable to that of a homosexual. They are almost exactly the same thing, except one is sexuality and the other is race....mexicangordo
You can hide sexuality, but you can't hide your race. So someone has to hide who they are in order for them to not get beaten up, harassed....killed? Great, your right! Even now in 2008 as long as gay people hide themselves, they wont get harassed.... :|
This thread is making me very sad...
All I'm saying is the civil rights movement is in no way comparable to what gays aregoing through. Then they have the nerve to get mad at black people.
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] So whats your point? mexicangordo
I already stated my point.. Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" isnt that what they are talking about in the clip?
[QUOTE="Silverbond"]You can hide sexuality, but you can't hide your race.Silverbond
So someone has to hide who they are in order for them to not get beaten up, harassed....killed? Great, your right! Even now in 2008 as long as gay people hide themselves, they wont get harassed.... :|
This thread is making me very sad...
All I'm saying is the civil rights movement is in no way comparable to what gays aregoing through. Then they have the nerve to get mad at black people. Gay people are not getting mad at Black people its the other way around.  And how is the Civil rights movement so different than what Homosexuals have been trying to accomplish?
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I already stated my point..Tjeremiah1988
Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" isnt that what they are talking about in the clip? But we were talking in general. I have no idea why you brought up the clip.
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] So whats your point? mexicangordo
I already stated my point.. Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" To be honest, that is where the uproar seems to be coming from. Before Prop 8 was passed, gays were content with their lives. I haven't heard of a gay bashing case in many MANY years. Many people turn a blind eye to gays because it has become so common to see homosexual couples... it's just another way of life that does no harm.
[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] So someone has to hide who they are in order for them to not get beaten up, harassed....killed? Great, your right! Even now in 2008 as long as gay people hide themselves, they wont get harassed.... :|
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This thread is making me very sad...
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All I'm saying is the civil rights movement is in no way comparable to what gays aregoing through. Then they have the nerve to get mad at black people. Gay people are not getting mad at Black people its the other way around.  And how is the Civil rights movement so different than what Homosexuals have been trying to accomplish? show us how it is.
I hate when people compare the civil rights struggle of the 60's to the gay marriage debate...they are not comparable on any level... fat_rob
They are not directly comparable (I honestly believe nothing can compare to 400 YEARS of struggle) but there are some shared struggles between blacks and gays.
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" mexicangordo
isnt that what they are talking about in the clip? But we were talking in general. I have no idea why you brought up the clip. I bought up the clip because i thought thats what the thread was about and they were arguing about marriage. I read wrong I guess.
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I already stated my point..stevenk4k5
Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" To be honest, that is where the uproar seems to be coming from. Before Prop 8 was passed, gays were content with their lives. I haven't heard of a gay bashing case in many MANY years. Many people turn a blind eye to gays because it has become so common to see homosexual couples... it's just another way of life that does no harm. Says who exactly?  Gay people have been fighting for their rights since the 1950's, i doubt any gay person would settle for how things are now.
[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" mexicangordo
To be honest, that is where the uproar seems to be coming from. Before Prop 8 was passed, gays were content with their lives. I haven't heard of a gay bashing case in many MANY years. Many people turn a blind eye to gays because it has become so common to see homosexual couples... it's just another way of life that does no harm. Says who exactly?  Gay people have been fighting for their rights since the 1950's, i doubt any gay person would settle for how things are now. I agree with stevenk4k5, and no, I dont live under a rock.
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] isnt that what they are talking about in the clip? Tjeremiah1988
But we were talking in general. I have no idea why you brought up the clip. I bought up the clip because i thought thats what the thread was about and they were arguing about marriage. I read wrong I guess. Funny how you changed what we were talking about. First you make a comment that has nothing to do with the clip. I respond to that comment, and then all of a sudden, you bring up the clip for no reason what so ever...
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]All I'm saying is the civil rights movement is in no way comparable to what gays aregoing through. Then they have the nerve to get mad at black people.Tjeremiah1988
Gay people are not getting mad at Black people its the other way around. And how is the Civil rights movement so different than what Homosexuals have been trying to accomplish? show us how it is. You just seen it in the clip....
[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Dude you can't be serious... You think the only thing Homosexuals are fighting for is "marriage?" mexicangordo
To be honest, that is where the uproar seems to be coming from. Before Prop 8 was passed, gays were content with their lives. I haven't heard of a gay bashing case in many MANY years. Many people turn a blind eye to gays because it has become so common to see homosexual couples... it's just another way of life that does no harm. Says who exactly?  Gay people have been fighting for their rights since the 1950's, i doubt any gay person would settle for how things are now. I'm just going off of the numerous reported cases of gay riots since Prop 8 went down. Perhaps Prop 8 was the final straw for gays that were already trying very hard to get equal rights, I really don't know.
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] But we were talking in general. I have no idea why you brought up the clip.mexicangordo
I bought up the clip because i thought thats what the thread was about and they were arguing about marriage. I read wrong I guess. Funny how you changed what we were talking about. First you make a comment that has nothing to do with the clip. I respond to that comment, and then all of a sudden, you bring up the clip for no reason what so ever... meh, but I still stand by what I said.
I've never heard of a LGBT student having to be escorted by police to go to school. While both groups have their struggles, the scope of the black struggle for equality throughout the world has been far more difficult that the LGBT. To even try and compare the two is simply ludicrous.
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I bought up the clip because i thought thats what the thread was about and they were arguing about marriage. I read wrong I guess. Tjeremiah1988
Funny how you changed what we were talking about. First you make a comment that has nothing to do with the clip. I respond to that comment, and then all of a sudden, you bring up the clip for no reason what so ever... meh, but I still stand by what I said. Thats nice, good day to you
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Funny how you changed what we were talking about. First you make a comment that has nothing to do with the clip. I respond to that comment, and then all of a sudden, you bring up the clip for no reason what so ever... mexicangordo
meh, but I still stand by what I said. Thats nice, good day to you yeah because I already answered your question. Later.
I hate this imaginary culture "war" between the blacks and the gays that keeps on circling the news cycles. If anything it is the mormoms and the evangelicals that are at "war" with the gays.
I've never heard of a LGBT student having to be escorted by police to go to school. While both groups have their struggles, the scope of the black struggle for equality throughout the world has been far more difficult that the LGBT. To even try and compare the two is simply ludicrous.bobg360
Six months ago a Homosexual student was killed in California.... And many others are still being harassed, abused, neglected, killed durring 2008 not the 1960's.... but then again it still uncomparable to the Black community simply because the LGBT community are "different." :roll:
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] meh, but I still stand by what I said.Tjeremiah1988
Thats nice, good day to you yeah because I already answered your question. Later. If a "meh" is answering a question then i guess it is to you. All you did is beat around the bush while having no valid points. But its your opinion, so ill just say have a nice day.
[QUOTE="bobg360"]I've never heard of a LGBT student having to be escorted by police to go to school. While both groups have their struggles, the scope of the black struggle for equality throughout the world has been far more difficult that the LGBT. To even try and compare the two is simply ludicrous.mexicangordo
Six months ago a Homosexual student was killed in California.... And many others are still being harassed, abused, neglected, killed durring 2008 not the 1960's.... but then again it still uncomparable to the Black community simply because the LGBT community are "different." :roll:
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Still the numbers are no where close to those of the 60's. Plus it can be extremely easy to hide your sexuality (not that you should), but you can't hide your ethnicity,Â
I hate this imaginary culture "war" between the blacks and the gays that keeps on circling the news cycles. If anything it is the mormoms and the evangelicals that are at "war" with the gays. -Sun_Tzu-
Thank you! Thats what ive been trying to get across (not the mormon and evangelicals part)
[QUOTE="bobg360"]I've never heard of a LGBT student having to be escorted by police to go to school. While both groups have their struggles, the scope of the black struggle for equality throughout the world has been far more difficult that the LGBT. To even try and compare the two is simply ludicrous.mexicangordo
Six months ago a Homosexual student was killed in California.... And many others are still being harassed, abused, neglected, killed durring 2008 not the 1960's.... but then again it still uncomparable to the Black community simply because the LGBT community are "different." :roll: yet they can sit in the front of bus without worry of getting beaten or killed, get jobs, go to good schools to get an education, drink from any fountain they please, use normal restrooms, and the list goes on well over 100yrs of pain blacks have went through. I dont care if you get me this :| face, im dont here. I strongly agree with bobg360.
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Thats nice, good day to youmexicangordo
yeah because I already answered your question. Later. If a "meh" is answering a question then i guess it is to you. All you did is beat around the bush while having no valid points. But its your opinion, so ill just say have a nice day. meh wasnt answering, you asked about is it all about marriage, I already answered that. If you dont see it, oh well.
I'm bisexual and I'm African-American and to be honest with you, like I've stated earlier in the thread, I believe that you can not directly compare 400 years of slavery, lashings, murders, and degradation to the 50 year struggle of gays. This is not saying that gays have not struggled because they have; they have been fighting for equal rights, many have been beaten for being who they are but honestly, I haven't seen this happen in many years. Gays have the right to marriage where I live (Connecticut), there is a Gay Pride parade held every year here as well as up in New York. Many gays walk the streets and live alongside heterosexuals and there are no problems. Of course you have immature students that make fun of gays but they are impressionable; I seldom hear mature adults bad talk gays. The thing is "If it isn't directly harming me then why should I even worry about it?"
I hate this imaginary culture "war" between the blacks and the gays that keeps on circling the news cycles. If anything it is the mormoms and the evangelicals that are at "war" with the gays. -Sun_Tzu-
I dont even know why blacks are being put in the front of this whole argument, when blacks barely even had anything to do with prop 8 passing.
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="bobg360"]I've never heard of a LGBT student having to be escorted by police to go to school. While both groups have their struggles, the scope of the black struggle for equality throughout the world has been far more difficult that the LGBT. To even try and compare the two is simply ludicrous.Tjeremiah1988
Six months ago a Homosexual student was killed in California.... And many others are still being harassed, abused, neglected, killed durring 2008 not the 1960's.... but then again it still uncomparable to the Black community simply because the LGBT community are "different." :roll: yet they can sit in the front of bus without worry of getting beaten or killed, get jobs, go to good schools to get an education, drink from any fountain they please, use normal restrooms, and the list goes on well over 100yrs of pain blacks have went through. I dont care if you get me this :| face, im dont here. I strongly agree with bobg360. And yet, gay people are still killed, are the minority in this country, are still one of the most harrassed groups in the entire country, neglected by parents, have the highest teenage suicide rate....i can go on and on.... I thought you gave up a long time ago when you gave me a childish response of "meh?"
I hate this imaginary culture "war" between the blacks and the gays that keeps on circling the news cycles. If anything it is the mormoms and the evangelicals that are at "war" with the gays. -Sun_Tzu-
70% of blacks who voted on Prop8 in California were for it.
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