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#51 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Some people will refuse to believe anything if the government is involved, or blame the government in a conspiracy. Others will blindly follow the givernment like it's God. Same as bilnd antheism and blind religious fervor. 

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#52 ad1x2
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="gago-gago"]He should say it was self defense.frannkzappa

against marathoners?

they were running at him.

Well, Major Nidel Hasan did try to use a defense of others strategy during his court-martial stating that he killed the troops so he could stop them from going to Afghanistan to kill Taliban members (despite one of his victims being a pregnant Soldier who obviously wasn't fit to deploy). Maybe the Boston Bombing suspect can claim that boy he killed would have joined the Army sometime around 2025 and killed people in his home country or something if he didn't act...
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#53 foxhound_fox
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He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.
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He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.foxhound_fox
Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.Nuck81
Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

 

And who told you all this?  You personally verified it?

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.hartsickdiscipl

Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

 

And who told you all this?  You personally verified it?

There is far more evidence of his guilt than this magical government conspiracy.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.hartsickdiscipl

Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

 

And who told you all this?  You personally verified it?

And did you personally verify that all evidence against the suspect was planted by government officials?

Also, what would be the end game of this plot? Initial evidence shown that the brothers may have worked alone, preventing reason to believe it may have been a false flag attack.
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.hartsickdiscipl

Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

 

And who told you all this?  You personally verified it?

You know, if the government wanted to push some agenda, they'd at least have the guys shoot up the place, not blow it up.
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#59 BossPerson
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He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.foxhound_fox
yea, that's good for the rule of law
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#60 foxhound_fox
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yea, that's good for the rule of lawBossPerson
Skips costly court time. It's still a "jury of peers". Win-win.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]yea, that's good for the rule of lawfoxhound_fox
Skips costly court time. It's still a "jury of peers". Win-win.

I'm gonna assume you're being tongue in cheek
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#62 foxhound_fox
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I'm gonna assume you're being tongue in cheek BossPerson
More like tongue-through-cheek.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I'm gonna assume you're being tongue in cheek foxhound_fox
More like tongue-through-cheek.

sounds painful

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He's taking advantage of the conspiracy theories.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.Nuck81
Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.Stesilaus

Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

where do you get this stuff?
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Do you think he should get the death penalty or just be locked away for life?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/us/boston-bombing-case/index.html

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umm...he plead not guilty.  I think he should have a trial first, don't you?

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I think he should be released
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]He has already been found guilty by the media and public. They might as well just skip the trial and put him directly in jail.Stesilaus

Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

 

Then why go through the bother of a trial? Why not just beef the guy when he was hiding in the boat and be done with it then and there?

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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....worlock77

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

 

Then why go through the bother of a trial? Why not just beef the guy when he was hiding in the boat and be done with it then and there?

Because thats just what we would expect them to do!
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....BossPerson

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

where do you get this stuff?

He already showed you the site :P
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] Probably has something to do with him being filmed setting the bomb down, shooting police officers, and being on the run. But you know, I'm sure it's just coincidence he was in possession of the bomb just seconds before it was detonated....worlock77

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

 

Then why go through the bother of a trial? Why not just beef the guy when he was hiding in the boat and be done with it then and there?

 

We know that at least his apprehension and exit from the boat were being photographed, if not filmed.  If the cops were aware of this, they may have been more than hesitant to kill him right there.  IDK about you, but I didn't see a gun when he exited the boat.  I also didn't see anything that supported the idea that he was firing at the cops from the boat, yet we know they were firing at him.  He was hunkered down in the boat under a tarp, as spotted by thermal from a chopper, IIRC.  

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

Even tying the brothers directly to the planting of the bombs wouldn't rule out the possibility of CIA involvement. The CIA could have built the bombs and given them to the Tsarnaev patsies, along with instructions on how to deploy them.

According to FBI-employee-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, a possible motive for a false flag attack was to provide a pretext for selling out the Chechen rebels (who have previously enjoyed the CIA's material support) to Russia. The expectation was that Putin would reciprocate in the UN Security Council by offering no opposition to the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria.

 

hartsickdiscipl

Then why go through the bother of a trial? Why not just beef the guy when he was hiding in the boat and be done with it then and there?

 

We know that at least his apprehension and exit from the boat were being photographed, if not filmed.  IDK about you, but I didn't see a gun when he exited the boat.  I also didn't see anything that supported the idea that he was firing at the cops from the boat, yet we know they were firing at him.  He was hunkered down in the boat under a tarp, as spotted by thermal from a chopper, IIRC.  

Photographed by the FBI. All the news cameras were moved away. Perfect Opportunity to kill him with only FBI as witnesses.
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He definitely seems guilty, but he absolutely deserves a fair trial. They might have trouble finding an impartial jury unfortunately.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Then why go through the bother of a trial? Why not just beef the guy when he was hiding in the boat and be done with it then and there?

Person0

 

We know that at least his apprehension and exit from the boat were being photographed, if not filmed.  IDK about you, but I didn't see a gun when he exited the boat.  I also didn't see anything that supported the idea that he was firing at the cops from the boat, yet we know they were firing at him.  He was hunkered down in the boat under a tarp, as spotted by thermal from a chopper, IIRC.  

Photographed by the FBI. All the news cameras were moved away. Perfect Opportunity to kill him with only FBI as witnesses.

 

Oh that's right.. Isn't this the guy they claim was bleeding for hours from multiple gunshot wounds while laying in the boat?  Then he climbs out of the boat on his own, and they pin him to the ground and handcuff him rather roughly.  He must be superman.   

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

We know that at least his apprehension and exit from the boat were being photographed, if not filmed.  IDK about you, but I didn't see a gun when he exited the boat.  I also didn't see anything that supported the idea that he was firing at the cops from the boat, yet we know they were firing at him.  He was hunkered down in the boat under a tarp, as spotted by thermal from a chopper, IIRC.  

hartsickdiscipl

Photographed by the FBI. All the news cameras were moved away. Perfect Opportunity to kill him with only FBI as witnesses.

 

Oh that's right.. Isn't this the guy they claim was bleeding for hours from multiple gunshot wounds while laying in the boat?  Then he climbs out of the boat on his own, and they pin him to the ground and handcuff him rather roughly.  He must be superman.   

And that has nothing to do with having no witnesses besides the FBI HRT and a police helicopter. If they wanted to kill him they could easily have done it and said that he fired back at them. They went out of their way to bring him in alive.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] Photographed by the FBI. All the news cameras were moved away. Perfect Opportunity to kill him with only FBI as witnesses.Person0

 

Oh that's right.. Isn't this the guy they claim was bleeding for hours from multiple gunshot wounds while laying in the boat?  Then he climbs out of the boat on his own, and they pin him to the ground and handcuff him rather roughly.  He must be superman.   

And that has nothing to do with having no witnesses besides the FBI HRT and a police helicopter. If they wanted to kill him they could easily have done it and said that he fired back at them. They went out of their way to bring him in alive.

 

When did he fire back at them?  Do we have that on video, with proof that it was definitely him?  What I saw definitely didn't add up.  Even if he did do what they said he did, how do we know that someone else in the US gov't, as reported by some sources, didn't put him up to it?

What makes you so sure that you can even have a valid opinion on this situation?  The information we're being fed may be pure BS.  

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Oh that's right.. Isn't this the guy they claim was bleeding for hours from multiple gunshot wounds while laying in the boat?  Then he climbs out of the boat on his own, and they pin him to the ground and handcuff him rather roughly.  He must be superman.   

hartsickdiscipl

And that has nothing to do with having no witnesses besides the FBI HRT and a police helicopter. If they wanted to kill him they could easily have done it and said that he fired back at them. They went out of their way to bring him in alive.

 

When did he fire back at them?  Do we have that on video, with proof that it was definitely him?  What I saw definitely didn't add up.  Even if he did do what they said he did, how do we know that someone else in the US gov't, as reported by some sources, didn't put him up to it?

What makes you so sure that you can even have a valid opinion on this situation?  The information we're being fed may be pure BS.  

Never said he fired at them. I said they could have lied and said he fired at them if they wanted to kill him so badly. I was listening to the boston police scanner that night, between that and the news reports i have a much better understanding of the situation then you.
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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

We know that at least his apprehension and exit from the boat were being photographed, if not filmed.  IDK about you, but I didn't see a gun when he exited the boat.  I also didn't see anything that supported the idea that he was firing at the cops from the boat, yet we know they were firing at him.  He was hunkered down in the boat under a tarp, as spotted by thermal from a chopper, IIRC.  

hartsickdiscipl

Photographed by the FBI. All the news cameras were moved away. Perfect Opportunity to kill him with only FBI as witnesses.

 

Oh that's right.. Isn't this the guy they claim was bleeding for hours from multiple gunshot wounds while laying in the boat?  Then he climbs out of the boat on his own, and they pin him to the ground and handcuff him rather roughly.  He must be superman.   

I take it you have never heard of the death by a thousand cuts then?  The premiss is that you only die after the one thousandth cut and it was preformed in China up until 1905 when it was banned. People most certainly be shot mulitple times without dying as long as nothing vital is hit. 

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Oh that's right.. Isn't this the guy they claim was bleeding for hours from multiple gunshot wounds while laying in the boat?  Then he climbs out of the boat on his own, and they pin him to the ground and handcuff him rather roughly.  He must be superman.   

hartsickdiscipl

And that has nothing to do with having no witnesses besides the FBI HRT and a police helicopter. If they wanted to kill him they could easily have done it and said that he fired back at them. They went out of their way to bring him in alive.

 

When did he fire back at them?  Do we have that on video, with proof that it was definitely him?  What I saw definitely didn't add up.  Even if he did do what they said he did, how do we know that someone else in the US gov't, as reported by some sources, didn't put him up to it?

What makes you so sure that you can even have a valid opinion on this situation?  The information we're being fed may be pure BS.  

I've always been amused by the fact that your arguments are largely driven by statements about what we don't have evidence to support rather than what we do have evidence to support.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

where do you get this stuff?mattbbpl

He already showed you the site :P

The possible Syria link was proposed by Sibel Edmonds in the following edition of the "Lew Rockwell Show", which, unfortunately, is 48 minutes long. If you spend the time listening, though, you'll realize that she's not some lunatic-fringe conspiracy theorist. On the contrary, she's highly intelligent and disarmingly well-informed.

She makes it clear that the possible Syria link is merely an hypothesis and that she's also open to the possibility that there was no false flag attack and that the bombing was a simple case of "blowback".

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He's taking advantage of the conspiracy theories.

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Get dem tinfoil hats ready.

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Hart. 

Kill yourself.

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Do you think he should get the death penalty or just be locked away for life?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/us/boston-bombing-case/index.html

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Neither, God was just working through him to see that his will be done.
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Hart. 

Kill yourself.

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

And you lapped up every bit of it.  

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And you ignore all evidence because CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I haven't had the chance to examine that evidence.  I have no way of knowing how much is true.  What I do know is that the global elite control the mainstream media, and their agendas are helped by manipulating the public perception.  

They really screwed up this time, though. Usually, the Illuminati is much better at manipulating events.

However, they had the CIA and NSA pick a perpetrator that wasn't Islamic-looking enough to justify Big Oil's invasion of another petroleum-rich country.

Their patsy was clearly a reptilian. We all know how unstable they are.

Also, the Novus Ordum Mundi didn't give them enough connection to Hamas, al Qaeda, Hezbollah and Mensa, so they could nuke Syria with impunity.

Finally, the Freemasons failed to teleport him somewhere safe so they could have martial law, an enhanced Patriot Act, a prolonged manhunt that turns up several anti-FBI conspiracies, and a monopoly on Girl Scout cookies.

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#90 wis3boi
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Hart. 

Kill yourself.

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Or get some sunlight at least

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#91 BuryMe
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If he's found guilty, he should probably get life imprsonment.

There is never a scenario where I can imagine supporting the death penalty.

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#92 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] And you ignore all evidence because CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!OrkHammer007

I haven't had the chance to examine that evidence. I have no way of knowing how much is true. What I do know is that the global elite control the mainstream media, and their agendas are helped by manipulating the public perception.

They really screwed up this time, though. Usually, the Illuminati is much better at manipulating events.

However, they had the CIA and NSA pick a perpetrator that wasn't Islamic-looking enough to justify Big Oil's invasion of another petroleum-rich country.

Their patsy was clearly a reptilian. We all know how unstable they are.

Also, the Novus Ordum Mundi didn't give them enough connection to Hamas, al Qaeda, Hezbollah and Mensa, so they could nuke Syria with impunity.

Finally, the Freemasons failed to teleport him somewhere safe so they could have martial law, an enhanced Patriot Act, a prolonged manhunt that turns up several anti-FBI conspiracies, and a monopoly on Girl Scout cookies.

this about sums it up.