Wait so the guy didn't die, even for a period of time, yet he claims he went to the afterlife? A really stereotypical version of heaven too except with blue and pink as the primary colours (blech)?
He wasn't even dead, it was probably a dream. Your brain is still there until it rots away or is shot etc. so there can never really be proof that the consciousness doesn't die with the brain.
Not sure if someone has brought it up yet, but there have been studies that show that when the body dies the brain releases a chemical (DMT) that is the same chemical that is released when you dream. It is known as a chemical afterlife, but it doesn't last as your brain eventually dies after your body. It is kind of like your brain is letting you go out smoothly. Pretty amazing if you think about it.
did a marginally more accomlished than normal person ignore their own academic doman that debunks his claims in order to make a small fortune publishing an inevitable best-selling book?
He's basing this of a dream he had when he was in a comma. How can he seriously use that as proof of an afterlife? The most he can say, with any degree of credibility, is that the "experience" he had was an affirmation towards a genuine belief in a christian God.
It's also funny that the image of the afterlife conforms to some form judeo-christian depictions of heaven as popularized by renaissance artists.
[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"] Pretty sure your're just a close-minded condescending git. time to take a look in the mirror. Just did, saw a rainbow. oh, so you finally saw past the bs and decided to try lsd. It's good sh*t, isn't it.
[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] time to take a look in the mirror. Just did, saw a rainbow. oh, so you finally saw past the bs and decided to try lsd. It's good sh*t, isn't it. ARE YOU ASKING ME OR TELLING ME?
*Sigh* I've mention this in another thread a year back, but I'll repeat what I said then, just because your in a coma or having a near death experience, that doesn't mean you brain stops functioning. I still consider the things people see during those experiences are nothing but dreams. They are memories of places, people, or things that people are most likely thinking about IMO...
My question is do you think that those who have completely different experiences, ones that have no connection to their beliefs (Not seeing dead family members, or seeing their deity of choice. etc....) or other people experiences, would say that their coma/near-death experience was relevant to anything other than being a dream?....
[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"] Just did, saw a rainbow. oh, so you finally saw past the bs and decided to try lsd. It's good sh*t, isn't it. ARE YOU ASKING ME OR TELLING ME? ? .
[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] oh, so you finally saw past the bs and decided to try lsd. It's good sh*t, isn't it. ARE YOU ASKING ME OR TELLING ME? ? . Your last sentence makes no sense.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So science trying to fit what is experienced then? Enough people have had similar experiences be it the white light or seeing themselves as though they are a third party observer to just dismiss it out of hand. That's what I think anyway. And that would be more in line with how scientific studies are done. Don't dismiss what isn't understood. Unless those psych teachers have died and come back to life....I don't consider them to be experts. But hey.....whatever helps you sleep.LJS9502_basic
I've heard that it's a chemical reaction that occurs in your brain under certain circumstances (near death, for example). It's not so much unlike a dream...no?You know that can be flipped that experience causes the chemical reaction. Same thing with making love a mere chemical reaction. The opposite side can be true as well...... Except this chemical reaction supposedly can be recreated without a near-death experience, so....
[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"] ARE YOU ASKING ME OR TELLING ME? ? . Your last sentence makes no sense. Technically, it's not a sentence, but w/e. anyway, ? for the first one, statement for the other sentence.
[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] ? . Your last sentence makes no sense. Technically, it's not a sentence, but w/e. anyway, ? for the first one, statement for the other sentence. Well yeah, it wasn't a sentence at all. No I didn't do lsd I drank six gallons of milk in one sitting. I'm so high bro
[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"] Your last sentence makes no sense. Technically, it's not a sentence, but w/e. anyway, ? for the first one, statement for the other sentence. Well yeah, it wasn't a sentence at all. No I didn't do lsd I drank six gallons of milk in one sitting. I'm so high bro weird. will have to put that on my to do list.
There's only one problem - he was in a coma, i.e, not DEAD. He also lost any credibility for me when he described his personal experience as a "scientific reason" to believe in the afterlife.
I'm no expert on brain function, but am I right in assuming it's possible to dream while in a coma? If so, how is this guys so-called "afterlife" experience any more true than my wacky dreams?
And Einstein believed in a non-personal God.Zeviander
Any links to that? I know he entertained the idea and never ruled it out as a possibility, but from what I've read he was a Pantheist and believed nature was "God" in the sense nature created all life and the universe.
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]And Einstein believed in a non-personal God.PernicioEnigma
Any links to that? I know he entertained the idea and never ruled it out as a possibility, but from what I've read he was a Pantheist and believed nature was "God" in the sense nature created all life and the universe. Einstein actually hated that Religious people would bring his name up in these such conversations. However... That image of Einstein the believer has been upended a bit by the newly sold letter, written in 1954 to philosopher Eric Gutkind. In the letter, he wrote: The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. And there's his famous quote Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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