Breaking news - Iran says its ready to hold talks with US in Oct or Nov

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

topsemag55

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

_R34LiTY_

Yep. I agree. We should of also gave nuclear weapons to Japan, Germany, and Italy back in World War II. Just to make it even and fair, am I right!!!

I mean, it's not like Iran could ever obtain a nuke then give it to a terrorist organization who then uses it on the West, completely denying responsibility. :roll:

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[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

l4dak47

And just how would they launch this nuke?

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="topsemag55"]And Iran would sell nuclear devices to Al-Queda.

worlock77

And just how would they launch this nuke?

Dirty bomb in a briefcase. Doesn't take out a ton of people, but the radioactive trash is what's bad.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] That's true. They already support many terrorist groups that are against the U.S. topsemag55

And just how would they launch this nuke?

Dirty bomb in a briefcase. Doesn't take out a ton of people, but the radioactive trash is what's bad.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] That's true. They already support many terrorist groups that are against the U.S. topsemag55

And just how would they launch this nuke?

Dirty bomb in a briefcase. Doesn't take out a ton of people, but the radioactive trash is what's bad.

Actually the radioactive effect is minimal and most of the damage and casualties from such a bomb would be in the conventional explosive used.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

topsemag55

No they wouldn't because AQ shannigans would put Iran at risk.. To this point Iran's leaderships seems to have common enough sense for self preservation.

Is Iran actually building nuclear weapons? Shouldn't it be clear depending on the levels of enrichment?

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[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

sSubZerOo

No they wouldn't because AQ shannigans would put Iran at risk.. To this point Iran's leaderships seems to have common enough sense for self preservation.

Why? They could give it to a terrorist group without anyone knowing...not that difficult...

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*facepalm*

sSubZerOo

Are you telling me that you honestly believe Iran is using their nuclear facilities for energy and not weapons? How naive can you be?

I am sure they use them for both.. Iran has a legitimate reason to be fearful of the United States, which invaded their neighboragainst UN wishes for reasons that were never justified or proven..

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You must be a fan of Mr. Hussein then. The US may not have been justified for the reasons they gave, but there is no doubt that Iraq benefited from US involvement.

It would be good for this world if nobody had nuclear weapons.

We are *slowly* disarming the world. We don't need any more countries with them.

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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

Are you telling me that you honestly believe Iran is using their nuclear facilities for energy and not weapons? How naive can you be?

KH-mixerX

I am sure they use them for both.. Iran has a legitimate reason to be fearful of the United States, which invaded their neighboragainst UN wishes for reasons that were never justified or proven..

You must be a fan of Mr. Hussein then. The US may not have been justified for the reasons they gave, but there is no doubt that Iraq benefited from US involvement.

Yeah, who doesn't want their country to have a bloody civil war?

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I am sure they use them for both.. Iran has a legitimate reason to be fearful of the United States, which invaded their neighboragainst UN wishes for reasons that were never justified or proven..

SgtKevali

You must be a fan of Mr. Hussein then. The US may not have been justified for the reasons they gave, but there is no doubt that Iraq benefited from US involvement.

Yeah, who doesn't want their country to have a bloody civil war?

People who benefit from a authoritarian dictatorship.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

SpartanMSU

Yep. I agree. We should of also gave nuclear weapons to Japan, Germany, and Italy back in World War II. Just to make it even and fair, am I right!!!

I mean, it's not like Iran could ever obtain a nuke then give it to a terrorist organization who then uses it on the West, completely denying responsibility. :roll:

USA is the last example any nation should take note of given it's treacherous lies and hypocritical double standards, so yes, let them what we have. we've done FAAAR worse then what we claim for Iran to have had done or have in mind of doing

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[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

_R34LiTY_

Yep. I agree. We should of also gave nuclear weapons to Japan, Germany, and Italy back in World War II. Just to make it even and fair, am I right!!!

I mean, it's not like Iran could ever obtain a nuke then give it to a terrorist organization who then uses it on the West, completely denying responsibility. :roll:

USA is the last example any nation should take note of given it's treacherous lies and hypocritical double standards, so yes, let them what we have. we've done FAAAR worse then what we claim for Iran to have had done or have in mind of doing

Ummm...cool? Next time you quote someone, make sure your response actually relates to their post, because this one doesn't. Click the "new message" button.

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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]And Iran would sell nuclear devices to Al-Qaeda.

SpartanMSU

No they wouldn't because AQ shannigans would put Iran at risk.. To this point Iran's leaderships seems to have common enough sense for self preservation.

Why? They could give it to a terrorist group without anyone knowing...not that difficult...

Why does IRAN have to be the one to specifically be the conspicuous one to toss armaments left & right? Besides, aren't Iran and Russia somewhat allies?

Al Qaeda was created to fight the Russians in the Soviet-Afghan war, so if indeed they are partners to whatever extent, I doubt Iran would deal with people who were used to fight against their current allies unless they want sanctions enforced on them.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Yep. I agree. We should of also gave nuclear weapons to Japan, Germany, and Italy back in World War II. Just to make it even and fair, am I right!!!

I mean, it's not like Iran could ever obtain a nuke then give it to a terrorist organization who then uses it on the West, completely denying responsibility. :roll:

SpartanMSU

USA is the last example any nation should take note of given it's treacherous lies and hypocritical double standards, so yes, let them what we have. we've done FAAAR worse then what we claim for Iran to have had done or have in mind of doing

Ummm...cool? Next time you quote someone, make sure your response actually relates to their post, because this one doesn't. Click the "new message" button.

ah yes, is what i get for having to many tabs open in same thread

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

No they wouldn't because AQ shannigans would put Iran at risk.. To this point Iran's leaderships seems to have common enough sense for self preservation.

_R34LiTY_

Why? They could give it to a terrorist group without anyone knowing...not that difficult...

Why does IRAN have to be the one to specifically be the conspicuous one to toss armaments left & right? Besides, aren't Iran and Russia somewhat allies?

Al Qaeda was created to fight the Russians in the Soviet-Afghan war, so if indeed they are partners to whatever extent, I doubt Iran would deal with people who were used to fight against their current allies unless they want sanctions enforced on them.

The Mujahideen aren't/weren't Al Qaeda...

The Mujahideen of Afghanistan actually fought against the Taliban for control of the country...

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Why? They could give it to a terrorist group without anyone knowing...not that difficult...

SpartanMSU

Why does IRAN have to be the one to specifically be the conspicuous one to toss armaments left & right? Besides, aren't Iran and Russia somewhat allies?

Al Qaeda was created to fight the Russians in the Soviet-Afghan war, so if indeed they are partners to whatever extent, I doubt Iran would deal with people who were used to fight against their current allies unless they want sanctions enforced on them.

The Mujahideen aren't/weren't Al Qaeda...

The Mujahideen of Afghanistan actually fought against the Taliban for control of the country...

The Taliban were one of the mujahideen groups that formed during the Soviet-Afghan conflict along with what eventually became Al Qaeda as "holy warriors" or "freedom fighters"

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[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

You must be a fan of Mr. Hussein then. The US may not have been justified for the reasons they gave, but there is no doubt that Iraq benefited from US involvement.

SpartanMSU

Yeah, who doesn't want their country to have a bloody civil war?

People who benefit from a authoritarian dictatorship.

So everyone else prefers it over a dictatorship? I wonder how the Iraqi people would answer that question.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

If USA and other powerful nations can have nukes, then so should Iran.

topsemag55

Iran is Shiite. The only Shiite run country in the world.

Al Qaeda is Sunni muslim. Extreme Sunnis. Half the terrorist bombings involving muslims are Sunni on Shia or vice versa. Al Qaeda in Iraq spent several years specializing in blowing up Shiites and their mosques.

Besides, all nukes are traceable from the unique chemical composition of the source nuke material. You explode one and the US gov't automatically knows where the fissionable material was mined. Ergo, national suicide on Iran's part.

Sorry to bump this, but i have to say that I am really hoping for some good and productive peace talks. I've been looking at pictures of Iran on google maps (i know, not the most reliable source), but based on these pictures i can already tell that a war with this country wouldn't be even remotely similar to the invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan. If what i am seeing is truly what iran is like, then this is a whole different beast. I mean, they have real infrastructure, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the largest Militaries in the world, and they have a stable government.

The troops cleaning an Iranian city of any opposition would be quite a bit different from doing the same thing in Iraq or Afghanistan. They won't be running into a village of mud huts and searching some poverty stricken family, they will be going into true middle class homes and searching carpeted buildings filled with TVs and furniture and kitchens. It would be like searching a North American or European home.

I'm looking at these pictures right now, and if it weren't for the architecture I would honestly think i was looking at a middle class American city.