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#1 Engrish_Major
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Borders Books and Music has failed to find a buyer, and will liquidate all remaining stores. I loved this store - where else could you get a coffee, look at books and magazines, music, and flirt with cute college girls in the same place? This is especially bad for me, as there is one literally a block from my apartment. Now the only bookstore left in my community is a dinky used book store a few blocks away. I have spent countless hours in the aisles at borders, and have spent undoubtedly a thousand dollars or more. OT, do you mourn the loss of this retailer? Link
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#2 Firebird-5
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hell no, bookdespository is where its at. just go to a good cafe
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#3 Pirate700
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No surprise. For better or worse, the printed medium is dead.

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#4 YellowOneKinobi
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Part of me is a little sad to see them go :(

I can't think of any other book stores in my area at all :(

I guess it's not surprising though, what with Amazon and all.

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#5 cybrcatter
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I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them.
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#6 MasonLovak
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I've never heard of this retailer. I'm sorry that you lost one of your favorite stores though :(
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#7 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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All the border shops in the UK closed in 2009. I don't miss it.

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#8 TehFuneral
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Sad, its one of the few bookshops in my place. Will miss it.

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#9 spazzx625
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We had two Borders close near us a few months back and when they were having their liquidation at 40% off...I checked Amazon's prices and they were STILL lower. Still, there's nothing quite like going in a bookstore. Hopefully Barnes and Noble can stay around.
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I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them. cybrcatter
For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

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#11 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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It didn't get into the digital age quick enough.

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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them. Pirate700

For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

When Circuit City closed Tiger Direct bought them just to use the name recognition in their online store.
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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them. Pirate700

For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

They'll be dead soon, but I'm not putting the final nails in the coffin just yet. They still have plenty of years left in them.

(No, I wouldn't have advised any company buy Borders, don't get me wrong).

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i do not mourn the lost of a company that could not change with the market tides, but i do have 300 bucks in borders gift certificates that will go unused

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]We had two Borders close near us a few months back and when they were having their liquidation at 40% off...I checked Amazon's prices and they were STILL lower. Still, there's nothing quite like going in a bookstore. Hopefully Barnes and Noble can stay around.

Yes, their prices were not quite competitive in the 2010 market. I would still buy magazines and books from them though over saving a couple dollars in purchasing one online, just for the fact that I could walk into a bookstore and have it right then. There were two in downtown DC that closed earlier this year - one of which I frequented on my lunch break. The one near my apartment was spared that first round of closings (to my relief) but it looks like nothing can save it now.
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#16 Buttons1990
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Liquidate!? GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE YAY! They sell video games too you know... And movies... Spending money time!

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#17 chessmaster1989
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It's a shame, even if I didn't buy much there, it was still a good place to hang out with family after dinner. Oh well, I buy everything off amazon anyway. :P
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#18 Atmanix
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I prefer Barnes and Noble over Borders anyway for when I want to actually pick up a book offline.

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#19 Engrish_Major
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I prefer Barnes and Noble over Borders anyway for when I want to actually pick up a book offline.

Atmanix
I do like B&N. There is a large one downtown in DC still. But I doubt that they will be expanding to my neighorhood to fill the newly-vacant Borders location.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them. spazzx625

For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

When Circuit City closed Tiger Direct bought them just to use the name recognition in their online store.

Fair enough but I'm not sure how much weight the Borders name holds in terms of online services. It's just a second rate Amazon.

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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them. Pirate700

For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

CDs and magazines I can understand, but books? How do you lie in bed at night and read a book without actually having a few hundred pages of paper in your hand?

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]I was under the impression that some online retailer was going to buy them. mrbojangles25

For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

CDs and magazines I can understand, but books? How do you lie in bed at night and read a book without actually having a few hundred pages of paper in your hand?

A kindle like everyone else is using now.

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#23 tenaka2
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The Médecins Sans Frontières predicted this years ago.

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#24 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I prefer Barnes and Noble over Borders anyway for when I want to actually pick up a book offline.

Engrish_Major

I do like B&N. There is a large one downtown in DC still. But I doubt that they will be expanding to my neighorhood to fill the newly-vacant Borders location.

Probably not, no.

If it wasn't for the Nook I imagine they'd be hurting too.

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#25 LZ71
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Sad, but I preferred Barnes and Nobles anyways. Hopefully those can hang on.
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Never had one near me, still sad though.
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#27 spazzx625
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Fair enough but I'm not sure how much weight the Borders name holds in terms of online services. It's just a second rate Amazon.

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Agreed. If their ereader was actually worth something I could see someone picking them up for that...But it's a turd.
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#28 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Fair enough but I'm not sure how much weight the Borders name holds in terms of online services. It's just a second rate Amazon.

spazzx625
Agreed. If their ereader was actually worth something I could see someone picking them up for that...But it's a turd.

And nobody's going to buy an E-reader from a failing business.
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I prefer Barnes and Noble over Borders anyway for when I want to actually pick up a book offline.

Atmanix

I do like B&N. There is a large one downtown in DC still. But I doubt that they will be expanding to my neighorhood to fill the newly-vacant Borders location.

Probably not, no.

If it wasn't for the Nook I imagine they'd be hurting too.

I don't see the Nook saving B&N either. Now that everything is digital, Amazon is laying the wood to all the old books and music stores. They can't compete. I don't believe the Nook sales are even close to Kindle's either but I could be wrong.

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That's a shame. Hopefully Barnes and Noble can still succeed in this now paperless society.

I will never sell my soul to a Kindle or Nook. There is nothing like reading an actual book.

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That sucks:( One of the malls I go to has a awesome two story Borders.

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Horrible news. :{
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] I do like B&N. There is a large one downtown in DC still. But I doubt that they will be expanding to my neighorhood to fill the newly-vacant Borders location.Pirate700

Probably not, no.

If it wasn't for the Nook I imagine they'd be hurting too.

I don't see the Nook saving B&N either. Now that everything is digital, Amazon is laying the wood to all the old books and music stores. They can't compete. I don't believe the Nook sales are even close to Kindle's either but I could be wrong.

The Kindle looks to be doing better, yeah.

"The Kindle has a market share of 67 percent in the U.S., followed by the Nook at 22 percent, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Amazon.com also generates 58 percent of e-book sales, followed by Barnes & Noble's 27 percent, Apple Inc. at 9 percent and Borders with 7 percent."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-22/barnes-noble-falls-after-dividend-halt-same-store-sales-rise.html

The Nook is still doing pretty well though IMO. I prefer it over the Kindle because of the E-pub format, or does the Kindle support that now?

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

Probably not, no.

If it wasn't for the Nook I imagine they'd be hurting too.

Atmanix

I don't see the Nook saving B&N either. Now that everything is digital, Amazon is laying the wood to all the old books and music stores. They can't compete. I don't believe the Nook sales are even close to Kindle's either but I could be wrong.

The Kindle looks to be doing better, yeah.

"The Kindle has a market share of 67 percent in the U.S., followed by the Nook at 22 percent, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Amazon.com also generates 58 percent of e-book sales, followed by Barnes & Noble's 27 percent, Apple Inc. at 9 percent and Borders with 7 percent."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-22/barnes-noble-falls-after-dividend-halt-same-store-sales-rise.html

The Nook is still doing pretty well though IMO. I prefer it over the Kindle because of the E-pub format, or does the Kindle support that now?

I use the program Calibre to convert e-pub files to kindle's weird format. Works surprisingly well.
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]For what purpose? Hard copy books, magazines and CDs are dead mediums. It would be flushing money down the toilet for any company.

Pirate700

CDs and magazines I can understand, but books? How do you lie in bed at night and read a book without actually having a few hundred pages of paper in your hand?

A kindle like everyone else is using now.

whats a kindle?

*http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reader-Wifi-Graphite/dp/B002Y27P3M

ooooooooooooooooh that is fancy. Are they any good?

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

CDs and magazines I can understand, but books? How do you lie in bed at night and read a book without actually having a few hundred pages of paper in your hand?

mrbojangles25

A kindle like everyone else is using now.

whats a kindle?

Its a small twig or stick used to start a fire.

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While I realize the paper book is going to disappear completely one day, I personally prefer reading books in book form.

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#38 martinX3X
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this really blows. after school I would always visit my friend Amy who worked at starbucks inside borders. she already knew this was going to happen so its not a surprise or anything, but its still kinda sad since borders was a really nice place to chill and took up 3 floors of the mall.

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#39 Mafiree
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I prefer barnes and noble. However, I will miss borders competition is usually a good thing.
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its pretty sad. I used to go to the one near here all the time.
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yea i saw that yesturday sad well...barnes and nobles is still open soooooo im good
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I thought the USA was going to get rid of the borders.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

CDs and magazines I can understand, but books? How do you lie in bed at night and read a book without actually having a few hundred pages of paper in your hand?

mrbojangles25

A kindle like everyone else is using now.

whats a kindle?

*http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reader-Wifi-Graphite/dp/B002Y27P3M

ooooooooooooooooh that is fancy. Are they any good?

I'm not a reader but my mom has one. It's amazing. It actually projects the text to the SURFACE of the screen so it mimics actual print on paper. It's amazing tech.

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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]A kindle like everyone else is using now.

Pirate700

whats a kindle?

*http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reader-Wifi-Graphite/dp/B002Y27P3M

ooooooooooooooooh that is fancy. Are they any good?

I'm not a reader but my mom has one. It's amazing. It actually projects the text to the SURFACE of the screen so it mimics actual print on paper. It's amazing tech.

yeah, I am sold on getting one. Going to ask for one for Christmas. I love books, but atm I am moving so much it simply is not practical to hold onto the boxes of books I have, so I don't read as much as I like.

Kindle sounds perfect for me. Might have to get one sooner than Christmas to be honest.

The whole e-ink thing is fascinating, sounds like an Etch a Sketch in a way :P

*Still, my only concern is selection. I am sure th ere are more than enough books I can get via Kindle, but idunno...

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Bookstores are a dying industry imo. Most of the books I buy I buy online because they are so much cheaper.
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There weren't really too many of them here... I always preferred Barnes and Noble.
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Bookstores are a dying industry imo. Most of the books I buy I buy online because they are so much cheaper. maheo30

its pretty crazy how quickly we have gone to replacing the analogue basics with digital stuff. It is happening so fast...I wouldnt say too fast, but if you asked me ten years ago if book and video stores would go out of business, I would have laughed. I guess that is why stock market speculators get paid the big bucks :P

pretty soon we will be downloading food. FOOD I SAY!

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[QUOTE="maheo30"]Bookstores are a dying industry imo. Most of the books I buy I buy online because they are so much cheaper. mrbojangles25

its pretty crazy how quickly we have gone to replacing the analogue basics with digital stuff. It is happening so fast...I wouldnt say too fast, but if you asked me ten years ago if book and video stores would go out of business, I would have laughed. I guess that is why stock market speculators get paid the big bucks :P

pretty soon we will be downloading food. FOOD I SAY!

It happened so fast because unlike many transitions, the digital one is just better in every way. It's faster, it's cheaper, it's more obtainable.

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pretty soon we will be downloading food. FOOD I SAY!

mrbojangles25


They're actually working on that.And not just food.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

Probably not, no.

If it wasn't for the Nook I imagine they'd be hurting too.

Atmanix

I don't see the Nook saving B&N either. Now that everything is digital, Amazon is laying the wood to all the old books and music stores. They can't compete. I don't believe the Nook sales are even close to Kindle's either but I could be wrong.

The Kindle looks to be doing better, yeah.

"The Kindle has a market share of 67 percent in the U.S., followed by the Nook at 22 percent, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Amazon.com also generates 58 percent of e-book sales, followed by Barnes & Noble's 27 percent, Apple Inc. at 9 percent and Borders with 7 percent."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-22/barnes-noble-falls-after-dividend-halt-same-store-sales-rise.html

The Nook is still doing pretty well though IMO. I prefer it over the Kindle because of the E-pub format, or does the Kindle support that now?

Nope, Kindle still doesn't have it. Thing about the Nook is that it's growing a lot; the Nook was released in major markets around Christmas 2009, with a wide release in early 2010. Kindle has been around since late 2007. If I get an e-reader soon I'll be getting the 2nd gen Nook. Fixed a lot of the problems with the first gen one, and it's tiny (touch screen ftw). Sad about Borders though. They kinda dug their own grave by making a deal with Amazon back in 2001 to run their online book business, and what's really frustrating in this area is that the two Borders have been doing great. They regularly make money, but the overall problems with the company are going to kill those community fixtures and put several people out of their jobs. :(