Can someone tell what is wrong with elitism?

Elitism in itself is not an evil, but how some people decide to utilize it can quickly become immoral, unethical or downright irrational.

The whole problematic concerning wether or not certain schools should or shouldnt allow in people deriving from a specific demographic group... I dont know. I havent given it enough thought, but it sounds volatile to say the least.

I just want to say that I didn't go to a private school, I went to my local primary and then secondary schools and all university education is free so money isn't the issue and I think I may not have explained myself properly.

AnObscureName

I'm sorry, what? What kind of university do you go to that's free?

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It has bothered me for a while, especially involving education. The media uses this word whenever a school or university refuses to accept people below a certain standard. I have no idea how this is meant to do anything. Isn't that the point? To give the moe intelligent a better enviroment to work in and cleverer peers with which to work?

I am actually on of those people that supports the idea that in an election some people's votes should count for more than others.

Shouldn't a person with a degree in economics or in politics or who knows something about how a country is run have more say in the running than say a brick-layer who left school at 16 with no qualifications?

x_Martyr_x

absolutly not. this idea has bothered me for a while now, do you really think because money bought your education that you are more intelligent than someone? do you really think that? i hate to burst the tiny bubble around your head but most of what they teach you in this "education system" is what they want you to hear, so you can become a better worker for them. you allow yourself to become so sheltered and pretentious that you actually shut your brain off to everything else that wasn't taught to you. ill give you a little advice, intelligence comes from within, not from the knowledge that you had to pay for.

what do we get from these "highly education" types? better liars, thats what.

so thanks but no thanks, ill take the brick layer.

Hahahahahahahahaah

This, coming from the guy who is probably still in high school.

The high school system is obviously flawed but as far as higher education, you're very wrong.

College is one of the most enlightening and intellectually stimulating times in a person's life. There are certain kinds of intelligence that come from within and the world around you, but that sort of thing doesn't teach you things you know absolutely nothing about.

And you're obviously mistaken that you can simply "buy your degree".

Yes, money is needed; but so are years of fiery hoops for you to jump through.

You think this **** is easy?

Rack up a PHD and I'll be impressed, since its so easy, ya know?

Inequality?

I don't know.

vidplayer8

[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"]

It has bothered me for a while, especially involving education. The media uses this word whenever a school or university refuses to accept people below a certain standard. I have no idea how this is meant to do anything. Isn't that the point? To give the moe intelligent a better enviroment to work in and cleverer peers with which to work?

I am actually on of those people that supports the idea that in an election some people's votes should count for more than others.

Shouldn't a person with a degree in economics or in politics or who knows something about how a country is run have more say in the running than say a brick-layer who left school at 16 with no qualifications?

Deathxcore

absolutly not. this idea has bothered me for a while now, do you really think because money bought your education that you are more intelligent than someone? do you really think that? i hate to burst the tiny bubble around your head but most of what they teach you in this "education system" is what they want you to hear, so you can become a better worker for them. you allow yourself to become so sheltered and pretentious that you actually shut your brain off to everything else that wasn't taught to you. ill give you a little advice, intelligence comes from within, not from the knowledge that you had to pay for.

what do we get from these "highly education" types? better liars, thats what.

so thanks but no thanks, ill take the brick layer.

Hahahahahahahahaah

This, coming from the guy who is probably still in high school.

The high school system is obviously flawed but as far as higher education, you're very wrong.

College is one of the most enlightening and intellectually stimulating times in a person's life. There are certain kinds of intelligence that come from within and the world around you, but that sort of thing doesn't teach you things you know absolutely nothing about.

And you're obviously mistaken that you can simply "buy your degree".

Yes, money is needed; but so are years of fiery hoops for you to jump through.

You think this **** is easy?

Rack up a PHD and I'll be impressed, since its so easy, ya know?

[QUOTE="Deathxcore"][QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

absolutly not. this idea has bothered me for a while now, do you really think because money bought your education that you are more intelligent than someone? do you really think that? i hate to burst the tiny bubble around your head but most of what they teach you in this "education system" is what they want you to hear, so you can become a better worker for them. you allow yourself to become so sheltered and pretentious that you actually shut your brain off to everything else that wasn't taught to you. ill give you a little advice, intelligence comes from within, not from the knowledge that you had to pay for.

what do we get from these "highly education" types? better liars, thats what.

so thanks but no thanks, ill take the brick layer.

UNHOLY_basic

Hahahahahahahahaah

This, coming from the guy who is probably still in high school.

The high school system is obviously flawed but as far as higher education, you're very wrong.

College is one of the most enlightening and intellectually stimulating times in a person's life. There are certain kinds of intelligence that come from within and the world around you, but that sort of thing doesn't teach you things you know absolutely nothing about.

And you're obviously mistaken that you can simply "buy your degree".

Yes, money is needed; but so are years of fiery hoops for you to jump through.

You think this **** is easy?

Rack up a PHD and I'll be impressed, since its so easy, ya know?

I'd prefer to learn philosophy in every day life, which I can agree is knowledge that is found from within and the world around you.

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]I just want to say that I didn't go to a private school, I went to my local primary and then secondary schools and all university education is free so money isn't the issue and I think I may not have explained myself properly.

AirGuitarist87

I'm sorry, what? What kind of university do you go to that's free?

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[QUOTE="AnObscureName"]I just want to say that I didn't go to a private school, I went to my local primary and then secondary schools and all university education is free so money isn't the issue and I think I may not have explained myself properly.

AnObscureName

I'm sorry, what? What kind of university do you go to that's free?

Inequality?

I don't know.

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

I'm sorry, what? What kind of university do you go to that's free?

AirGuitarist87

When I see a group of meathead jocks running through private 40k/year schools on their athletic abilities alone, that's when I become angry.

When I see what elected officials who not all of us agreed with have done with our economy and our way of life, that's when I get pissed.

When education fails at the lowest levels and that brick layer has NO OPTION but to do his/her job and support his/her family, then I start thinking maybe this isn't such a great place to live. Also, when that brick layer makes 20/hr vs. 15/hr for a college scholar, what do you think he/she is going to choose?

Its great that you think that a Republic works better than a Democracy, but that's a very broken way of doing things and there is a logical reason why we choose to do things this way. i.e. How is it fair when a black woman who grew up in the slums with a crappy education wouldn't get the same number of votes as a rich individual who never had to struggle for their well being, given both of them have political ideals?

Elitism is a word that lower class people in society use to distinguish blind idiots who can't see why lower class people can't follow their impossible standards.

Shouldn't a person with a degree in economics or in politics or who knows something about how a country is run have more say in the running than say a brick-layer who left school at 16 with no qualifications?

AnObscureName

Intelligence does not necessarily make a good leader, nor a good judge of character. It can help, for sure, but leadership capabilities are a thing that you can't learn in any school. Indeed, some of the most intelligent people have also been some of the most brutal dictators mankind has ever seen.

I bet that brick layer could make a straighter wall than you could with your degree in quantum physics... JustPlainLucas

lol, this.

In the real world, I suppose it's because the majority can't be elitist.lancelot200