Can you justify suicide?

My friend was talking to me about how someone if taken enough pain suicide is a viable option. Me i think it's a coward way out of life.

Just cause you get a couple strikes doesn't mean you leave the game.

So what do you think?

If a person has something like ALS, and the only thing they have to look forward to is a slow, painful death, I would never question their decision to end their life painlessly.

I don't think it's a good solution, but in the end it's up to each person to decide over his/her life.

If I were going to become a biological WMD then, yeah, suicide is justified

Listen to me, sometimes people end up in situations where they are TRULY suffering a whole bunch.

And I think that if before you go around calling them cowards you need to be in their shoes. There are a bunch of whiny emo kids that talk about suicide but they're all about the attention. Some people end up in terrible situations, situations that would make the majority of these people saying that people who commit suicide are weaklings comtemplate doing it themselves.

So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?spazzx625

whoa, another emo topic! anyways, if a person is enough pain, then yes its viable. get out of here with that coward's way out nonsense. a person's life is more than a game.

edit: im not talking about depression or self agony, i'm talking about actualy physical pain, like a terminal illness.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?BioDogshock

My friend was talking to me about how someone if taken enough pain suicide is a viable option. Me i think it's a coward way out of life.

Just cause you get a couple strikes doesn't mean you leave the game.

So what do you think?

BioDogshock

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?BioDogshock

Well that I can definitely agree with. But some people are not all mentally there, unfortunately. And that can be a cause of it as well. Not everybody can think as clearly as the rest of us. Sometimes it isn't a matter of weakness, but instead being insane.

Yes, I'm sure someone dying of uncurable cancer is a coward. For people with psychological problems, it's not cowardice either; it's complicated but you definitely do not want to know how it feels to be depressed to that extent.Mochyc

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?BioDogshock

It's more selfish to force someone to say alive when they don't want to "imo".

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?spazzx625

In very few cases. A minority of actual suicides would fall into that. People obviously should be able to control their own life and death, but justifying it in terms of the family and friends you leave behind is a different matter.Bourbons3

and according to my mother its a illegal in the US

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?BioDogshock

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?Mochyc

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"]

My friend was talking to me about how someone if taken enough pain suicide is a viable option. Me i think it's a coward way out of life.

Just cause you get a couple strikes doesn't mean you leave the game.

So what do you think?

Its easy to look from the outside in and call them weak. Until you get in that situation its not right to call them weak.

It's more selfish to force someone to say alive when they don't want to "imo".

Yangire

This is what I've been thinking about this issue for a while now.

People say that the ones who commit suicide are the selfish ones. But what if somebody is really suffering a whole bunch (like from a really bad disease. Not talking about little things here). Who really is the selfish one for making that person stay alive?

If the person wants to end their life it is their choice. That's all I have to say about that. It's not my body, it's theirs, they can do what they want with it. I'm not going to judge...

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?BiancaDK

Its easy to look from the outside in and call them weak. Until you get in that situation its not right to call them weak.

Ravirr

Because you have to have faith that there is light on the other side of that tunnel. Your not always going to be abused. You have to have something to keep your spirits up. The person that can do that is a truly strong person.BioDogshock

I find it a rather personal matter that does not need to be justified to others in any way.

Very hard to, but it will only happen if I am criminalized, or I am having a very sad life in overall.

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"]Because you have to have faith that there is light on the other side of that tunnel. Your not always going to be abused. You have to have something to keep your spirits up. The person that can do that is a truly strong person.BiancaDK

[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="BioDogshock"] I understand with a terminal illness But im talking about like. Being abused a lot and having no one to love you. That is tough but you gotta keep on trucking An illness is understandableBioDogshock

Your assuming they are going through the same problems that everyone goes through. If someone is abused, raped, tortured, homeless/very poor, or just has a horrible life I think it's understandable if they kill themselves.

Is it so much justifying the act of suicide, rather than the freedom over your own body to do anything you want with it? Its easy to say how wrong is that unless you yourself have a reason.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

It's more selfish to force someone to say alive when they don't want to "imo".

MarioFan264

This is what I've been thinking about this issue for a while now.

People say that the ones who commit suicide are the selfish ones. But what if somebody is really suffering a whole bunch (like from a really bad disease. Not talking about little things here). Who really is the selfish one for making that person stay alive?

[QUOTE="Ravirr"]

Its easy to look from the outside in and call them weak. Until you get in that situation its not right to call them weak.

BioDogshock

For some things it takes incredible strength to live through.

Just because one person can not does not neccessarily make them weak.

Ravirr is 100% right, though. I still think that if faced with one of these horrible situations, many of the people who call the one's who commit suicide "weak", might just end up doing it themselves. Life can get really bad. And quite simply there isn't always a bright light at the end of the tunnel. Some situations are just that bad.

They are extremely rare, but they exist. Personally I never be too happy with somebody commiting suicide that didn't really have to go through much, but I also agree that it is their life and body, as long as they don't take anybody else with them it is their right. Just a lot of these times these people do have a chance to make their lifes better, but they don't, and that's one thing that bothers me.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="BioDogshock"]Because you have to have faith that there is light on the other side of that tunnel. Your not always going to be abused. You have to have something to keep your spirits up. The person that can do that is a truly strong person.BioDogshock

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] What if someone cannot experience happiness anymore?Yangire

Your assuming they are going through the same problems that everyone goes through. If someone is abused, raped, tortured, homeless/very poor, or just has a horrible life I think it's understandable if they kill themselves.

Terminal illness is the only instance I find it acceptable really. Most other problems that people commit suicide for are temporary things. raven_squad

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]So you would label someone with a terminal illness in tremendous pain a coward if they end their life?BioDogshock

I don't think anyone should decide whether suicide is justifiable. Abuse (especially sexual) can have a highly damaging effect on a person's mental well-being. It can (and does) completely destroy people.

Until you have been in a situation where you have realised that all the "pain" would go away if you ended your life - you can't possibly sustain judgement.

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Terminal illness is the only instance I find it acceptable really. Most other problems that people commit suicide for are temporary things. BiancaDK