Can you name one thing that God cannot know?

God can't know anything at all. How could something imaginary have any knowledge at all? That'd be like my invisible friend being a genius, its just not going to happen. Mumbles527

Haven't I made myself clear that in order to post accordingly you must pretend that there is a God, at least in principle.

God cannot know if you will choose him or not. If he did he would of already known you would or wouldn't of choosen him before he gave you freewiill therefore condemning you to heaven or hell before you even existed.jrhawk42

I posted a similar response earlier. Jrhawk, that assumes there are facts about the future that can be known. If there are then chances are he would know about them. Whether he would condemn you or not is again beyond the scope of this thread.

science...g-unit248

Why would He not know science? Just because you believe that "science disproves evolution" doesn't mean He doesn't know it.

[QUOTE="Skellington27"]Can God microwave a burrito so hot that even he could not eat?ninjacat11

Curses! I was going to use that!

Dammit! That's immediately what I thought of when I saw this thread.

You guys are just way ahead of me.

Hey Hobbez.What is your logic behind assuming that any aspects of the future can be known for certain. I think the free will arguement has something to it and making that somewhat unjustified assumption isn't a goodenough rebuttal. Can you think of one thing that could be predicted for sure without assumption?

Good to see a couple of users who can argue about a God topic without resorting to screaming.And I love Bill Watterson too btw

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[QUOTE="DrummerJon"]how to forgive (assuming hell exists)DrummerJon

Hm.. I think He would know how to forgive, whether He chooses to or otherwise is beyond what this thread is asking.

what about how not to know anything? idk its like someone saying "I have an immortal dog, how can you kill it?" the popular deffinition of god doesn't allow him not to know something. since theres no logical way to prove or disprove anything its really a argument of opinions with no answer that will satisfy anyone.

knowing how to do something is very much different to actually doing something. and the answer to this thread: nothing. :p

God knows all .... therfore there is nothing which God cannot knowdaqua_99

He doesn't know me.Axed54

He's God, he knows everyone. He knows what youre thinking, and how many hairs are on your head.

he does not know why on the simpsons he has 1 extra fingure than everyone else

he does not know his shoe size

Or....if he does he doesn't know what created him.

Yes, God does not know what he does not know.thirstychainsaw

He can't know how many numbers there are...cause they just keep going. You can always add another number.

He can't know how many colors there are because as soon as he'd think he had it...you just say "Ok...now mix color #20056 with #50867." and then BAM a new color is created. (Just repeat anytime God thinks he has it figured out. But don't rub it in his face too much or he'll just smite thee.)

Guys, I seriously doubt God is a 'he'. How about we stop refering to it as such, yeah?Jenova_Flare

I never really thought about it but I call God 'he' alot...but you bring up a very good point... God couldn't be a 'he'...I mean look at the Bible...Only a Woman could have that much **** to say.

I've never met God. In fact, God may not even be in the image of a human being. By that rational, this topic has been rendered pointless.

Answer = Nothing.Apollo5000

[QUOTE="Jenova_Flare"]Guys, I seriously doubt God is a 'he'. How about we stop refering to it as such, yeah?crazygamer1

I never really thought about it but I call God 'he' alot...but you bring up a very good point... God couldn't be a 'he'...I mean look at the Bible...Only a Woman could have that much **** to say.

LOL; but calling him "it" is like equalling God with bugs and animals... I don't really care, but some people do.

He doesn't know that he doesn't exist.Bourbons3

I think he cannot completely know how we ract under different circumstances because of the free will that he gave us. if he knew ever move we'd make then that wouldn't completely be free will now would it?princess1087

That's probably the only logical argument anyone can make regarding this question... but I don't know if it's certain. I mean, if anyone or anything can foresee the future, it would be God... I don't know and I don't wanna think about it -_-

Hey Hobbez.What is your logic behind assuming that any aspects of the future can be known for certain. I think the free will arguement has something to it and making that somewhat unjustified assumption isn't a goodenough rebuttal. Can you think of one thing that could be predicted for sure without assumption?

Good to see a couple of users who can argue about a God topic without resorting to screaming.And I love Bill Watterson too btw

domatron23

If you read my post carefully, I was explaining , though not directly, to a couple of people why the free will argument is flawed. They stated that God cannot know what a being's future actions would be because He created free will. However, by saying there is free will negates any future determinism possibilities. Therefore, if there are no facts about the future to be known because there is no predetermined future, based on their logic not mine, there is nothing for God to know. And yes, Bill Watterson is great.

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]Yes, God does not know what he does not know.Cougarhart61

Interesting thirstychainsaw, except by standard definition of God, He knows everything. So if you ask Him if he doesn't know something, He would say, I know everything. I guess that would be saying, there is nothing that I don't know therefore there is nothing that I wouldn't know.

Cougarhart, I answered this earlier but got deleted. People seem to like these kinds of questions so I'll try to explain my argument. "Can God make a door even he couldn't open?" (By your logic) If so then he cannot open it and therefore something he cannot DO. If not, then he cannot create such a thing therefore it is something he cannot DO. This is a separate question, whether knowing-how and knowing-that share that part of omnicient characteristic. To take it even further consider this example. "If God truly is God then He can create a door even he cannot open." This is a contradiction, which is between saying he can do anything and he CANNOT open." There is no lack of ability implied by saying He cannot make a door he couldn't open as all that is said by this is that for any door he can create he can open it.

What about what I said about lying? Does God know how to lie?Zagrius

Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore your post. Why wouldn't He not know how to lie? Knowing how to do it doesn't entail actually doing it.

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]What about what I said about lying? Does God know how to lie?hobbez

Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore your post. Why wouldn't He not know how to lie? Knowing how to do it doesn't entail actually doing it.

But then, how do you know that God never lies?

[QUOTE="Tuky06"]How was he made.hobbez

Hm.. He wasn't made nor did he come from anything though, so there's nothing to know.

What evidence do you have to back up this ludicrous claim?

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[QUOTE="Zagrius"]What about what I said about lying? Does God know how to lie?Zagrius

Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore your post. Why wouldn't He not know how to lie? Knowing how to do it doesn't entail actually doing it.

But then, how do you know that God never lies?

The question whether he does or he doesn't is irrelevant, what's important is he knows how. That's not to say he has tried, if he wanted to there's no reason why he could not convince you.

God knows all.

He also probably knows that you made this tread.:P

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[QUOTE="Tuky06"]How was he made.Loonie

Hm.. He wasn't made nor did he come from anything though, so there's nothing to know.

What evidence do you have to back up this ludicrous claim?

I'm working from the standard definition of God, the being in the standard theism, ie., He is considered to be omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, perfect, eternal and without origin, as he is the "origin" of all things present. The reason for his existence is in himself. And if there were something from which He came, he'd arguably not be God (as he would be contingent on something else). However, being all knowing, if there were an origin, he'd know about it. And I don't think he'd share that piece of information with us.

Why people keep recycling the same threads over and over again in OT on Gamespot.foxhound_fox

because the mods won't stop them.

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[QUOTE="Tuky06"]How was he made.hobbez

Hm.. He wasn't made nor did he come from anything though, so there's nothing to know.

What evidence do you have to back up this ludicrous claim?

I'm working from the standard definition of God, the being in the standard theism, ie., He is considered to be omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, perfect, eternal and without origin, as he is the "origin" of all things present. The reason for his existence is in himself. And if there were something from which He came, he'd arguably not be God (as he would be contingent on something else). However, being all knowing, if there were an origin, he'd know about it. And I don't think he'd share that piece of information with us.

So if you have no evidence why are you stating it as fact?

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[QUOTE="Tuky06"]How was he made.Loonie

Hm.. He wasn't made nor did he come from anything though, so there's nothing to know.

What evidence do you have to back up this ludicrous claim?

I'm working from the standard definition of God, the being in the standard theism, ie., He is considered to be omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, perfect, eternal and without origin, as he is the "origin" of all things present. The reason for his existence is in himself. And if there were something from which He came, he'd arguably not be God (as he would be contingent on something else). However, being all knowing, if there were an origin, he'd know about it. And I don't think he'd share that piece of information with us.

So if you have no evidence why are you stating it as fact?

Did you not read what I said (typed)? There is no evidence that God exists nor did I state it as fact. My basis for my arguments is from the standard definition of God. The being in the standard theism, which essentially presents the God of the major monotheism. The being conceptualized as God by the people of faith.

Did you not read what I said (typed)? There is no evidence that God exists nor did I state it as fact. My basis for my arguments is from the standard definition of God. The being in the standard theism, which essentially presents the God of the major monotheism. The being conceptualized as God by the people of faith.

hobbez

My apologies but when you stated: "He wasn't made nor did he come from anything though, so there's nothing to know."

It seemed to me you were putting this forward as a fact.

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Did you not read what I said (typed)? There is no evidence that God exists nor did I state it as fact. My basis for my arguments is from the standard definition of God. The being in the standard theism, which essentially presents the God of the major monotheism. The being conceptualized as God by the people of faith.

Loonie

My apologies but when you stated: "He wasn't made nor did he come from anything though, so there's nothing to know."

It seemed to me you were putting this forward as a fact.

Ah fair enough, I assumed people would know what I meant by calling him "God" (as opposed to "god").