Unfortunantely business is business and I doubt the pharmaceutical companies would invest in something that would make them lose money (but at the same time save lives) :? Link
What can you say about this?
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Unfortunantely business is business and I doubt the pharmaceutical companies would invest in something that would make them lose money (but at the same time save lives) :? Link
What can you say about this?
It's not a definite cure but it does hold potential. They've only tested on 49 patients and it only treats glioblastoma, so this thread's title is widely misleading.
www. dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-05-12_Update.cfm
for some odd reason it won't let me link the site.
A cure for cancer is not in the best interest of the health industry. The can charge you a LOT more for ongoing treatments for cancer. Rattlesnake_8
Funny, just a couple of years ago my sister-in-law was cured of breast cancer via treatments accepted by the health industry.
[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]A cure for cancer is not in the best interest of the health industry. The can charge you a LOT more for ongoing treatments for cancer. worlock77
Funny, just a couple of years ago my sister-in-law was cured of breast cancer via treatments accepted by the health industry.
Ongoing is the key word here. For the pharmaceutical world, profit is everything.No, it said it was tested on human cells. It still needs to be tested on a human. The human cells it was tested on are not in a human when these test are done. Think of a culture sample.the article said they tested it on humans already.
POPEYE1716
[QUOTE="worlock77"][QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]A cure for cancer is not in the best interest of the health industry. The can charge you a LOT more for ongoing treatments for cancer. supa_badman
Funny, just a couple of years ago my sister-in-law was cured of breast cancer via treatments accepted by the health industry.
Ongoing is the key word here. For the pharmaceutical world, profit is everything.Yep, the treatments were ongoing for a couple of months. Then they stopped.
Doubt this is true, this would be all over the news, I understand that US companies are money hungry, but this just isn't how it would go. The media would plaster this all over our TVs and slate the companies, maybe US news firms could be bought out, but the rest of the world? no. I call shenanigansOverlord93This is indeed legit, but like someone said above "It's not a definite cure but it does hold potential. They've only tested on 49 patients and it only treats glioblastoma, so this thread's title is widely misleading." Its not a magic cure that kills cancer within seconds or days, but it does show very good promise and seem to halt or reduce the size of the cancer in most patients.
A cure for cancer is not in the best interest of the health industry. The can charge you a LOT more for ongoing treatments for cancer. Rattlesnake_8
Agreed. There would simply be no money in holding the exclusive rights to a (hypothetically, anyway) safe, simple and highly effective cancer cure for 20 years. :|
This could be a big breakthrough, i think most people have grown to expect cancer is just part of life. i think a real cure for it would overwhelm most people cause it just doesnt seem logical that it can be done. but it's possible in the near future the word cancer may become just another ilnness simply treated and cured. half a million people a year would be spared death. if our world ready to handle a more crowed world where people dont die as much?
"In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, themitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer."
The link is clearly wrong considering that mitochondria are not cells :|.
Mitocondria lives inside cells..."In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, themitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer."
The link is clearly wrong considering that mitochondria are not cells :|.
nintendoman562
[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]Mitocondria lives inside cells..."In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, themitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer."
The link is clearly wrong considering that mitochondria are not cells :|.
horgen123
The point he's trying to make is that mitochondria themselves are not cells, they are organelles found inside cells, and the author messed that up.
That's rather bad, but unless he has some prior knowledge about that, I can see it being easy to mix.The point he's trying to make is that mitochondria themselves are not cells, they are organelles found inside cells, and the author messed that up.
metroidfood
[QUOTE="metroidfood"]That's rather bad, but unless he has some prior knowledge about that, I can see it being easy to mix.The point he's trying to make is that mitochondria themselves are not cells, they are organelles found inside cells, and the author messed that up.
horgen123
Well given that's a fact learned in basic biology classes, I would hope he has learned it.
Anyways, the real problem is that he's mixing up this basic stuff while trying to write an expose on more advanced scientific problems.
Your source is not credible guy. If it was CNN or LA times or New york time or even Yahoo to a lower extent, I would believe it.
http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Truth-Worlds-Simplest-Cancer/dp/B001J66JQ8
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Be-Sick-Again-Health/dp/1558749543
^These are two of the important books ever written.
The mainstream health system in our country has head up it's ass when it comes to understanding and curing disease.
The fact that it's owned by profiteering drug companies, as others in this thread have indicated, doesn't help.
The reality is that almost all diseases, including cancer CAN be cured without the pharmaceutical industry's grossly overpriced bull**** or the dangerous and ineffective mainstream "treatments" for cancer: poisons ("chemotherapy"), radiation blasts, or surgery/hacking off body parts.
Medival medicine was actually less dangerous than mainstream medicine today. At least they were right about the leeches.
I believe there's been a cure for awhile. But the industry prefers to make money rather than save lives. That's the world we live in.
http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Truth-Worlds-Simplest-Cancer/dp/B001J66JQ8
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Be-Sick-Again-Health/dp/1558749543
^These are two of the important books ever written.
The mainstream health system in our country has head up it's ass when it comes to understanding and curing disease.
The fact that it's owned by profiteering drug companies, as others in this thread have indicated, doesn't help.
The reality is that almost all diseases, including cancer CAN be cured without the pharmaceutical industry's grossly overpriced bull**** or the dangerous and ineffective mainstream "treatments" for cancer: poisons ("chemotherapy"), radiation blasts, or surgery/hacking off body parts.
Medival medicine was actually less dangerous than mainstream medicine today. At least they were right about the leeches.
Darkwanderer000
It was also less effective. A lot less. And the average lifespan was short. Despite what you may want to believe modern medical proctice does have some clue what it's doing, and it is full of compassionate people that have promoting the well-being of others in mind. Is there profiteering in medicine? Absolutely. Are medical costs too high? Yes (the reasons ive more.for this are beyond the scope of my post). Although the idea that doctors and pharmaceutical companies don't want to cure cancer is rediculious. They could cure everyone with cancer (assuming they had the ability) and still profit even if that were the sole motivation. That's the thing. No matter how many sick people you treat there will always be more. Everybody will get sick at some point. Cure every patient with cancer you have today and tomorrow there will be five more.
http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Truth-Worlds-Simplest-Cancer/dp/B001J66JQ8
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Be-Sick-Again-Health/dp/1558749543
^These are two of the important books ever written.
The mainstream health system in our country has head up it's ass when it comes to understanding and curing disease.
The fact that it's owned by profiteering drug companies, as others in this thread have indicated, doesn't help.
The reality is that almost all diseases, including cancer CAN be cured without the pharmaceutical industry's grossly overpriced bull**** or the dangerous and ineffective mainstream "treatments" for cancer: poisons ("chemotherapy"), radiation blasts, or surgery/hacking off body parts.
Medival medicine was actually less dangerous than mainstream medicine today. At least they were right about the leeches.
Darkwanderer000
There is no universal cure for cancer. Anyone who says that doesn't understand anything about how cancer works or how to fight it.
The books on "natural cures" or "what big pharma doesn't want you to know" are snake oil salesmen making money off of people's misconceptions. Always has been that way and always will.
There currently is no "cure for cancer". Cancer is a broad term that covers a large variety of malignant diseases. We have essentially cured some types of cancers, but not others. Each cancer behaves very differently and thus is treated very differently. The article you linked appears to be written by someone with no medical background. I highly doubt that our doctors and healthcare professionals are simply leaving a bona fide "cure" on the sidelines because of big pharm.
[QUOTE="Darkwanderer000"]
http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Truth-Worlds-Simplest-Cancer/dp/B001J66JQ8
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Be-Sick-Again-Health/dp/1558749543
^These are two of the important books ever written.
The mainstream health system in our country has head up it's ass when it comes to understanding and curing disease.
The fact that it's owned by profiteering drug companies, as others in this thread have indicated, doesn't help.
The reality is that almost all diseases, including cancer CAN be cured without the pharmaceutical industry's grossly overpriced bull$s!t or the dangerous and ineffective mainstream "treatments" for cancer: poisons ("chemotherapy"), radiation blasts, or surgery/hacking off body parts.
Medival medicine was actually less dangerous than mainstream medicine today. At least they were right about the leeches.
metroidfood
There is no universal cure for cancer. Anyone who says that doesn't understand anything about how cancer works or how to fight it.
The books on "natural cures" or "what big pharma doesn't want you to know" are snake oil salesmen making money off of people's misconceptions. Always has been that way and always will.
Thank you. People are incredibly naive when it comes to this. Honestly, who would "choose" to endure treatment for cancer when they could just take a pill or rub oil on their skin? I have no doubt in the future a true cure will be found, but as it stands now, no.
Doubt this is true, this would be all over the news, I understand that US companies are money hungry, but this just isn't how it would go. The media would plaster this all over our TVs and slate the companies, maybe US news firms could be bought out, but the rest of the world? no. I call shenanigansOverlord93
Do you know that their is a substance that can cure herione addiction in less than 24 hours with no withdrawels! TRUE. But the pharmaceutical companies don't want anyone knowing that... also why it isn't approved in the USA, and is actually illegal. 24 hour cure of addiction to herione... illegal.. because the drug companies want profit... its gross to think about.
This is not a cure for cancer. DCA is a anticancer drug currently under review. its still in phase 2 clinical trials.
whoever wrote this article should be smacked in the face with a textbook on cancer. hopefull they will read it and actually educate themselves about carcinogenesis before bashing the medical world. Curing cancer is not that simple. Drugs requires years of testing before than can be approved,
did I mention DCA is known to cause liver cancer in mice. DeAngelo AB, Daniel FB, Stober JA, Olson GR (1991). "The carcinogenicity of dichloroacetic acid in the male B6C3F1 mouse". Fundam Appl Toxicol.16 (2): 337–347.
testing is required before it may be approved for human use.
please be careful on what you read on the inter. "hubpages" is not a credible source of information. the author has more opinion than any real facts in their article. I'm happy that many of the GS posters were smart enough not to believe this article right away.
[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Doubt this is true, this would be all over the news, I understand that US companies are money hungry, but this just isn't how it would go. The media would plaster this all over our TVs and slate the companies, maybe US news firms could be bought out, but the rest of the world? no. I call shenanigansInfinite_Access
Do you know that their is a substance that can cure herione addiction in less than 24 hours with no withdrawels! TRUE. But the pharmaceutical companies don't want anyone knowing that... also why it isn't approved in the USA, and is actually illegal. 24 hour cure of addiction to herione... illegal.. because the drug companies want profit... its gross to think about.
Now why would "big pharm" not want to capitalize on a cure for addiction to an illegal drug? Also, might you care to back this post up with even just the slightest shread of evidence?
Perhaps when an actual medical journal confirms the results and does testing of their own, we'll see something.
The topic title is misleading. Nowhere in the article you link (nor its source) is it established that this is a definately cure for cancer. As the source says: human testing needs to be done.
worlock77
It's not a definite cure, but did you follow the source???
http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/
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