Chevy or Ford?

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"] GM got bailed out by the government, and still almost went bankrupt. Why? Because no one buys their crappy huge trucks and SUVs.Guppy507

Blame Obama because the gas prices skyrocketed, and made GM's vehicals irrelevent? Or blame Obama because GM refused to change with the times, and almost went broke?

As my dad used to say about his Ford:

"Ford stands for Fix Or Repair Daily."

i dont know i really like chevy but i also really love mustangs like this one

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Hate Obama for that crap. Not GM.

Pirate700

Blame Obama because the gas prices skyrocketed, and made GM's vehicals irrelevent? Or blame Obama because GM refused to change with the times, and almost went broke?

Chevy must have had abysmal management if they managed to get bankrupt while selling that many vehicles.

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Blame Obama because the gas prices skyrocketed, and made GM's vehicals irrelevent? Or blame Obama because GM refused to change with the times, and almost went broke?

one_plum

Chevy must have had abysmal management if they managed to get bankrupt while selling that many vehicles.

I have had my eye on a ford ranger for a while.

there both Crap but i gotta give it to Chevy.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Irrelivent? Ford and Chevy's Trucks are still the best selling vehicles in the country by a long shot.

Pirate700

Chevy must have had abysmal management if they managed to get bankrupt while selling that many vehicles.

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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"]Ford everything they have is more appealing than chevy, the Taurus SHO, 2011 Mustang GT 5.0, F-150 Raptor, Focus RS. they make amazing cars, absolutely hate the trash that chevy puts out. i drive a dodge now though and love itFUBAR24

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Irrelivent? Ford and Chevy's Trucks are still the best selling vehicles in the country by a long shot.

Pirate700

Chevy must have had abysmal management if they managed to get bankrupt while selling that many vehicles.

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Chevy must have had abysmal management if they managed to get bankrupt while selling that many vehicles.

FUBAR24

The 2010 Mustang GT can only just barely beat a 2010 V6 Camaro and cant really come close to beating the SS even with the extra weight of the SS. As for the 2011 Mustang yes they are finally injecting power with the 5.0 but it remains to be seen if Chevy is going to maybe bump up the HP for the SS or maybe even add a limited Z28 model.awssk8er716

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]The unions had a large part in it along with that poor management. Hell GM has RE-surpassed Toyata as the best selling car company in the world.

Pirate700

My dad is giving me his old ford focus so I'll go with ford:D

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]The 2010 Mustang GT can only just barely beat a 2010 V6 Camaro and cant really come close to beating the SS even with the extra weight of the SS. As for the 2011 Mustang yes they are finally injecting power with the 5.0 but it remains to be seen if Chevy is going to maybe bump up the HP for the SS or maybe even add a limited Z28 model.FUBAR24

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q3/2010_chevy_camaro_ss_vs._2010_ford_mustang_gt_2009_dodge_challenger_r_t-comparison_tests/2010_chevrolet_camaro_ss_page_3

The SS beat the GT (though just barely it still did and with the extra weight) and in this comparo the GT actually ended up costing more than the SS did. They also said that the GT had 6700 miles of breakin which may have helped its performance a little bit vs the SS.

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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]The 2010 Mustang GT can only just barely beat a 2010 V6 Camaro and cant really come close to beating the SS even with the extra weight of the SS. As for the 2011 Mustang yes they are finally injecting power with the 5.0 but it remains to be seen if Chevy is going to maybe bump up the HP for the SS or maybe even add a limited Z28 model.Kurushio

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q3/2010_chevy_camaro_ss_vs._2010_ford_mustang_gt_2009_dodge_challenger_r_t-comparison_tests/2010_chevrolet_camaro_ss_page_3

The SS beat the GT (though just barely it still did and with the extra weight) and in this comparo the GT actually ended up costing more than the SS did. They also said that the GT had 6700 miles of breakin which may have helped its performance a little bit vs the SS.

Nissan.

You must have selective sight then lol: It's not a Camaro unless it can set fire to a burnout box. Frankly, we expected the 60-mph mark to arrive sooner than 4.8 seconds. That's only a 10th better than the Mustang, which has 111 fewer horsepower (and is 300 pounds lighter). Still, the Camaro was quicker through the quarter-mile, and our low-miles test car may still have been tight. Even if true, the 6.2 socks it to you in the low and midrange revs much harder than either the peaky Dodge or the Ford. It also drains the tank quicker, returning 14 mpg to the Mustang's 17. The LS3 makes a muffled, less enthralling grumble than the Mustang. We were talking about performance not overall and overall is subjective to the reviewer.Kurushio

and its not selective sight its actually reading the article for what it is not transforming the article into what you want to see

Nissan.

Elephant_Couple

Ford they make GT Falcons Thread/walkingdream

What's a Falcon?

Haven't seen this argument on the interwebs before. :shock:

My dad has been a mechanic for 30 years and claims Chev is the bomb with Ford in 2nd and Dodge in 3rd. I'll go with that. 8)

[QUOTE="walkingdream"]Ford they make GT Falcons Thread/Mr_Manikin52

What's a Falcon?

It's a Performance Sedan here in Australia (GT model is at least)

Chevy

Ford has nothing that can touch the Corvette

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[QUOTE="walkingdream"]Ford they make GT Falcons Thread/walkingdream

What's a Falcon?

It's a Performance Sedan here in Australia (GT model is at least)

[QUOTE="Kurushio"]The Mustang they used was broken in vs a brand new SS. A non broken in SS beat a broken in GT (that number would likely gain a tenth or two after a thousand or so miles on the SS) As Vin would say "It doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, a win is a win". As for the gas mileage it really depends on the driver and how they drive. Obviously if they were running the cars hard then a smaller displacement will get a better MPG but if they were doing long hauls then that 6th gear in the camaro would have gained them alot more mileage. Also in this comparison the GT actually cost 1200 more than the SS did.FUBAR24

Yup the Mustang GT is better than the Camaro SS

But the base Corvette is better than the GT500, so it evens out :P

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What's a Falcon?

FUBAR24

It's a Performance Sedan here in Australia (GT model is at least)

Has the discussion really just switched to Fiestas? :lol:

[QUOTE="Kurushio"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] i live in Australia so as far as i am aware Ford are selling fiestas now and are the best small cars in the market.....(made in Germany). WTF is a Pinto? lol? Ford also make the Focus Rs F6 Typhoon Thread/FUBAR24

[QUOTE="Kurushio"][QUOTE="FUBAR24"] hmmmm using your same logic and quote from Fast and Furious i could say the same thing about the mustang, and youre only looking at the straight lines, the fact if an engine is broken in doesnt play as big a part in a road race as it does in a straight line and they said the mustang had a much more balanced steering through corners since id stuck into them, where as the camaro was plagued with oversteer. youre still clutching for something thats not there. both Car and Driver AND Motortrend Disagree with you. and considering they are the two most popular and best selling automags in the states im gonna go ahead and say you lose this oneFUBAR24

I just thought i should point out what you typed there lol. Its just funny that everywhere i go the Camaro (especially the V6) is usually the overall pick by most review sites and magazines or its very nearly a tie but when it comes to performance especially on the 1/4 the Mustang is nowhere even close. Why dont you show me a site the conclusively proves that the mustang is faster for once instead of just saying all these places are (car and driver already said the Camaro is faster just FYI lol)

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="Kurushio"] I just watched the whole motortrend video of the SS vs GT vs RT and they never said anything about oversteer. They said that the GT went into the corners a bit better but that the Camaro with its independent rear suspension was more planted when it came to rougher roads and still cuts in differently but just as well.Kurushio

I just thought i should point out what you typed there lol. Its just funny that everywhere i go the Camaro (especially the V6) is usually the overall pick by most review sites and magazines or its very nearly a tie but when it comes to performance especially on the 1/4 the Mustang is nowhere even close. Why dont you show me a site the conclusively proves that the mustang is faster for once instead of just saying all these places are (car and driver already said the Camaro is faster just FYI lol)

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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"] the car and driver comparo says it i still have that issue, and i dont see how you can claim both magazines are in the wrong. i mean its their JOBS to do this youre some anonymous forumite, looks like youre the one with selective sight here and looks like youre gonna have to keep waiting for the day a mustang beats a camaroFUBAR24

I just thought i should point out what you typed there lol. Its just funny that everywhere i go the Camaro (especially the V6) is usually the overall pick by most review sites and magazines or its very nearly a tie but when it comes to performance especially on the 1/4 the Mustang is nowhere even close. Why dont you show me a site the conclusively proves that the mustang is faster for once instead of just saying all these places are (car and driver already said the Camaro is faster just FYI lol)

Interesting because here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uTjaQ6E7g Motortrend rated them and the Camaro came out on top and even the title is "Camaro is King". Still waiting for those websites that back you up by the way.Kurushio