Chicago wants to bring in the National Guard

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Two state representatives called on Gov. Pat Quinn Sunday to deploy the Illinois National Guard to safeguard Chicago's streets.

Chicago Democrats John Fritchey and LaShawn Ford said they want Quinn, Mayor Richard Daley and Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis to allow guardsmen to patrol streets and help quell violence. Weis said he did not support the idea because the military and police operate under different rules.

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So far this year, 113 people have been killed across Chicago, the same number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in the same period, Fritchey said.

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That murder figure is pretty staggering...Just last week or so there were 25 people shot in a 12 hour period. Violence is a HUGE problem here, but do you think this sounds like overkill or an appropriate measure?

TBH, I had no idea things were that bad :(

If I lived there and had my choice, I would choose extra security.
But neither option is that appealing

where the **** is batman?

where the **** is batman?

gamedude2020

This is madness...(this is chicago)

That would not be a smart idea. They need to give police orders to be more vigilant and get the community involved NOT the military!

noo. it's called escalation if you bring the NG in. The police get automatic weapons, the gangs/criminals start buying automatic weapons. then it just escalates. Key to policing is working with the community, not heavy armed guys putting the fear of god into everyone.GenTom

And they were bidding for the olympics...ROFL.

The National Guard was used here in DC during the Nuclear Summit, but one of their giant trucks ran over and killed a cyclist :( If it were just DC police, using a police car or van, the cyclist would probably still be alive. The military isn't designed to operate within a populated peacetime city.Engrish_Major

I'd personaly be scared to leave my house.

And they were bidding for the olympics...ROFL.

Elephant_Couple

noo. it's called escalation if you bring the NG in. The police get automatic weapons, the gangs/criminals start buying automatic weapons. then it just escalates. Key to policing is working with the community, not heavy armed guys putting the fear of god into everyone.GenTom

where the **** is batman?

gamedude2020

the only problem is the national guard are all in Iraq and Afghanistan so where they gonna get fresh soldiers from khariss

That'd be a funny situation, similar to Saints Row, I was playing Saints Row 2 and thinking that if this was a real city, it would be terrible and a war zone. lol.

I really had no idea things were that bad in Chicago.

And Sheppards we shall be...

:?Desperate times, i suppose

With statistics like that, I'd happily welcome any extra security. Sounds more like a warzone than a city.cjek

[QUOTE="cjek"]With statistics like that, I'd happily welcome any extra security. Sounds more like a warzone than a city.clyde46

I guess those rigid gun control laws aren't working out so well, are they?

I guess those rigid gun control laws aren't working out so well, are they?

QuistisTrepe_

[QUOTE="cjek"]With statistics like that, I'd happily welcome any extra security. Sounds more like a warzone than a city.clyde46

Detroit actually lost that title years back. Honestly, the dangers of Detroit are so freaking over-exaggerated it isn't even funny. The city is not bad at all besides having a homeless population that is about as big as the homeless population in DC. If actually effort was put in to revive that city it could be amazing.

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

And they were bidding for the olympics...ROFL.

spazzx625

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

I guess those rigid gun control laws aren't working out so well, are they?

spazzx625

The city of Chicago does.

Detroit actually lost that title years back. Honestly, the dangers of Detroit are so freaking over-exaggerated it isn't even funny. The city is not bad at all besides having a homeless population that is about as big as the homeless population in DC. If actually effort was put in to revive that city it could be amazing.

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Detroit actually lost that title years back. Honestly, the dangers of Detroit are so freaking over-exaggerated it isn't even funny. The city is not bad at all besides having a homeless population that is about as big as the homeless population in DC. If actually effort was put in to revive that city it could be amazing.

Engrish_Major

I bet it is.

I personally just realized how huge the homeless population was when I went there for a week-long field trip in 8th grade. We constantly came across homeless people. Some people took pictures of them....

[QUOTE="gamedude2020"]

where the **** is batman?

Hallenbeck77

noo. it's called escalation if you bring the NG in. The police get automatic weapons, the gangs/criminals start buying automatic weapons. then it just escalates. Key to policing is working with the community, not heavy armed guys putting the fear of god into everyone.GenTom

Your average gang member is likely used to seeing and dealing with cops, they likely don't affect the gang members at all. Personally, I think seeing armed soldiers around would be fairly intimidating to your average gangbanger.

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

And they were bidding for the olympics...ROFL.

spazzx625

I fail to see what Rio having crime and still getting the olympics has to do with the fact that A) Chicago ia an utter **** hole and B) there was some demographic out there that though Chicago was actually a good place to have the olympics. Oh that's right, it's completely irrelevant.

Chicago bidding for the olympics...ROFL :lol:

Oh man....well I guess a little extra muscle never hurts.

where the **** is batman?

gamedude2020

I had no idea it was that bad in Chicago. But no I wouldn't involve the National Guard. That would be an overreaction.Yagr_Zero

Bring them in and start cracking down on any known gangbangers or people violating their paroles. It's a short term fix but seriously seems like Chicago needs all the help they can get for now.

I don't think people in Chicago would be happy seeing soldiers with automatic weapons marching outside their homes...

I don't think people in Chicago would be happy seeing soldiers with automatic weapons marching outside their homes...

Desulated

[QUOTE="Desulated"]

I don't think people in Chicago would be happy seeing soldiers with automatic weapons marching outside their homes...

chrisrooR

Well then it makes it 10 times worse, now the gangs themselves will get even more reinforcements. XD

I don't think people in Chicago would be happy seeing soldiers with automatic weapons marching outside their homes...

Desulated

But would they rather see gangbangers shooting it out in the streets hitting Innocent civilians. Like the guy above me said summertime is coming and summertime is usually when **** hits the fan.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

And they were bidding for the olympics...ROFL.

Elephant_Couple

I fail to see what Rio having crime and still getting the olympics has to do with the fact that A) Chicago ia an utter **** hole and B) there was some demographic out there that though Chicago was actually a good place to have the olympics. Oh that's right, it's completely irrelevant.

Chicago bidding for the olympics...ROFL :lol: