Chicago wants to bring in the National Guard

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#51 yagr_zero
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"] What would you do though? Summer, the worst possible season for gun crimes, is coming. It's obvious from the level of gun crimes that they need immediate support in particular neighborhoods. How is exactly is this an overreaction? There are more deaths attributed to gun violence in these areas than in actual war zones.

I'd do what they did in Police Academy 4. Get a citizen police force out there.
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#52 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="Yagr_Zero"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"] What would you do though? Summer, the worst possible season for gun crimes, is coming. It's obvious from the level of gun crimes that they need immediate support in particular neighborhoods. How is exactly is this an overreaction? There are more deaths attributed to gun violence in these areas than in actual war zones.

I'd do what they did in Police Academy 4. Get a citizen police force out there.

Yeah, that had no ill effects at all...:P
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#53 xXDrPainXx
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Maybe the ones doing the murdering are from Gary and in that case go ahead my state wishes Gary would just implode and go away to be honest.
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#54 yabbicoke
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I thought all the criminals over there just went to jail and sang with Richard Gere

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#55 mrbojangles25
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If they can be used appropriately (i.e. in specific, high-crime areas) and only to supplement (not override) the police...then yes, bring them in.

This is simply rediculous, I had no idea crime was that bad!

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#56 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="Desulated"]

I don't think people in Chicago would be happy seeing soldiers with automatic weapons marching outside their homes...

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What of the gun-toting gangsters hanging hanging around outside of their homes right now?

Well then it makes it 10 times worse, now the gangs themselves will get even more reinforcements. XD

If I was a gang leader, I'd want to keep things on the down low untill the national guard left. Armed soldiers patrolling the streets would probably be bad for buisness, and your average non-utterly insane gang is not going to try and go to war with the military. Most would want to calm things down untill the guard left, not try and fight them off.

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#57 gamerguru100
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If the violence is that bad, I say bring them in...

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#58 yagr_zero
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"] Yeah, that had no ill effects at all...:P

Hey now. All you need to do on top of that is hire Steve Guttenberg to lead the team and you're set!
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#59 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="Yagr_Zero"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] Yeah, that had no ill effects at all...:P

Hey now. All you need to do on top of that is hire Steve Guttenberg to lead the team and you're set!

I'm sure he would appreciate the paycheck
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#60 Desulated
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If I was a gang leader, I'd want to keep things on the down low untill the national guard left. Armed soldiers patrolling the streets would probably be bad for buisness, and your average non-utterly insane gang is not going to try and go to war with the military. Most would want to calm things down untill the guard left, not try and fight them off.

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Well, it depends on the gang's firepower. I mean, the gangs in Mexico have the power to match with their military.

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#61 magnax1
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Sucks for Chicago. Lots of the US is starting to go to hell because of easier drug trafficking (spelling?) up from Mexico. Its especially terrible in New Mexico. Doesn't really affect Chicago much I guess, but still a big problem.

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#62 Osaka-06
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Comparing it to Iraq is pretty unwarranted. Let's look at the number of civilian deaths in Baghdad and re-evaluate this. If the number was 113 police officers, then it would have been totally different.
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#63 JML897
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

And they were bidding for the olympics...ROFL.

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Yeah, because there is definitely no crime in Rio. :|

I fail to see what Rio having crime and still getting the olympics has to do with the fact that A) Chicago ia an utter **** hole and B) there was some demographic out there that though Chicago was actually a good place to have the olympics. Oh that's right, it's completely irrelevant.

Chicago bidding for the olympics...ROFL :lol:

I think the point flew way, way over your head. You realize that Rio, the city that won the Olympics for the year Chicago was bidding, actually has a worse crime/murder rate than Chicago right?

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#64 spazzx625
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Sucks for Chicago. Lots of the US is starting to go to hell because of easier drug trafficking (spelling?) up from Mexico. Its especially terrible in New Mexico. Doesn't really affect Chicago much I guess, but still a big problem.

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No, it's definitely a problem...The main problem is gang-related...Which also ties into the drug trade, but it's mostly just stupidity.
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#65 kidsmelly
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

If I was a gang leader, I'd want to keep things on the down low untill the national guard left. Armed soldiers patrolling the streets would probably be bad for buisness, and your average non-utterly insane gang is not going to try and go to war with the military. Most would want to calm things down untill the guard left, not try and fight them off.

Desulated

Well, it depends on the gang's firepower. I mean, the gangs in Mexico have the power to match with their military.

Gnags in the U.S. do not have the firepower or money like the ones in Mexico who run wild. Street gangs are mainly about making money on drugs. Gang banging is stupid but the individual gang leader who call out the shoots are smart they are not going to go wild while a bunch of armed soldiers are there its just bad for business.

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#66 gameguy6700
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that most of those 113 murders would have been gangsters killing other gangsters, right? I say just let them have it out or even encourage it sinceit's one of the few problems in this world that by it's nature will fix itself (can't have anymore gang wars if all the gang members are already dead).

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#67 spazzx625
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that most of those 113 murders would have been gangsters killing other gangsters, right? I say just let them have it out or even encourage it sinceit's one of the few problems in this world that by it's nature will fix itself (can't have anymore gang wars if all the gang members are already dead).

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Most, maybe. A lot of them are gang-related, but not necessarily gang on gang. Just last week a 20 month old girl was shot in the head (and later died) because the gunman was trying to shoot her dad. Stories like that really make people want change.
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#68 Meinhard1
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Imo this is a-ok as long as the National Guard gets coupons to Ginos East for their trouble.
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#69 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

If I was a gang leader, I'd want to keep things on the down low untill the national guard left. Armed soldiers patrolling the streets would probably be bad for buisness, and your average non-utterly insane gang is not going to try and go to war with the military. Most would want to calm things down untill the guard left, not try and fight them off.

Desulated

Well, it depends on the gang's firepower. I mean, the gangs in Mexico have the power to match with their military.

Street gangs in the US don't have the firepower to match the US military. Not to mention the US Military is, you know, slightly greater than Mexicos military.

No street gang is going to try and go to war with the US. They'd be wiped out pretty hard.