christianity or Islam

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]I don't like religions that promote violence.taj7575

then i guess you like all religions

In Islam, don't they tell you that you have to do defend the faith in order to get into heaven, violently or otherwise? Maybe I should say I don't like religions that condone violence instead.

no it doesn't, but the media will have you believe otherwise, you should never force someone to be a muslim, and use violence as a last result if someone is actively attacking you.

No, I'm not taking about trying to get converts. I'm taking about the fact that violence is condoned, and in some cases promoted, for the defense of Islam.

Im not a big genius with religious things, but do you realize how far some christians go for trying to convert people?

Okay, so tell me where in the Bible it says that what they're doing is acceptable. Just because people call themselves Christian doesn't mean they are true Christians. I could tell you that I'm on diet, but if you see me sneaking snacks late at night, will you still believe me?

Ok then, Ill back that up too. Just because people say they're muslims, doesnt mean they are. You came in here saying pretty much Islam is an evil religion. I have muslim friends. Theyre as normal as ever. Maybe theres just some muslims that embarass their religion, which can be said about every religion.

I'm not saying they are and I have never said Islam is an evil religion so don't put words in my mouth. I even admitted that I have not read the Qu'ran, and that I've only learned little bits and pieces about Islam from other sources and other people which I do trust. And I did ask for others to correct me if anything I've said about Islam is wrong - I would always like to learn more, but of course, since this is the internet, I would need proof, preferrably directly out of the Qu'ran.

Please think about what you're going to say very carefully before you post next time.

There are a lot of videos on youtube exposing some twists and other manipulations of politicians. You could try searching for 9/11 coincidences. There are quite a few good books about them, too, like some guy with the last name of Griffin. I can't recall too much. kakashi552

Yup I've heard a few of the 9/11 ones. Like a bomb in the tower. They make perfect sence, yet, ignored.

And those youtube videos exposing our government, i have watched, but those videos only have 1.2k views. A lot of those views are foreigners too. Why some dont like america is because of the lies that just slip past us.

But yes, ive watched those vids, and theyre great.

This thread needs more discussion material, TC, and less popularity contests.

AAAAAArghh i just accidentall deleted my whole reply. Now go pack your bags!

this is all i have left. Evidently, Firefox cannot copy and paste correctly.

I never meant you should barge into a corporate building to stop their machines! We just seemed to be thinking different things. i just wanted to establish that we both believe in stopping evil. Somehow.

And i still remember: Dulce bellum inexpertis. War is sweet to those That have never experienced it. We would all think differently if we saw the horrors of war.

And: The mosquito thing? Yeah, sorry about that. I just thought it would be better not to itch at that moment. I tried to ignore the problem (turn the other cheek), but it didn't work.

I hate firefox...*grumble*...

I know! Sometimes...wait, no, just about all the time i hate the ignorance that is so prevalent in America. The media has a part in it.

AAAAAArghh i just accidentall deleted my whole reply. Now go pack your bags!

this is all i have left. Evidently, Firefox cannot copy and paste correctly.

I hate firefox...*grumble*...

kakashi552

Ctrl + C

Ctrl + V

AAAAAArghh i just accidentall deleted my whole reply. Now go pack your bags!

this is all i have left. Evidently, Firefox cannot copy and paste correctly.

I never meant you should barge into a corporate building to stop their machines! We just seemed to be thinking different things. i just wanted to establish that we both believe in stopping evil. Somehow.

And i still remember: Dulce bellum inexpertis. War is sweet to those That have never experienced it. We would all think differently if we saw the horrors of war.

And: The mosquito thing? Yeah, sorry about that. I just thought it would be better not to itch at that moment. I tried to ignore the problem (turn the other cheek), but it didn't work.

I hate firefox...*grumble*...

kakashi552

this is how you copy/past in firefox:

CTRL + C + V

AAAAAArghh i just accidentall deleted my whole reply. Now go pack your bags!

this is all i have left. Evidently, Firefox cannot copy and paste correctly.

I never meant you should barge into a corporate building to stop their machines! We just seemed to be thinking different things. i just wanted to establish that we both believe in stopping evil. Somehow.

And i still remember: Dulce bellum inexpertis. War is sweet to those That have never experienced it. We would all think differently if we saw the horrors of war.

And: The mosquito thing? Yeah, sorry about that. I just thought it would be better not to itch at that moment. I tried to ignore the problem (turn the other cheek), but it didn't work.

I hate firefox...*grumble*...

kakashi552

:evil: I hate when I lose a long post because computer screwed up on me! :evil:

And I agree with most of your post except for the mosquito thing. Turning the other cheek is not about ignoring the problem at all, (not the Bible's use of it anyway), but rather about facing the problem and addressing it with nonviolence. It's not saying that you should run away from or ignore your problems, not in the least bit. - I think this is where you're misunderstanding has been. "Turn the other cheek," when used in society, means ignore the problem, but that's not what it means in the context of the Bible. I think now you might better understand what I've been trying to say all along. :)

And yes - I should get to packing my bags. :P

I know! Sometimes...wait, no, just about all the time i hate the ignorance that is so prevalent in America. The media has a part in it.

kakashi552

the media. 4th branch of the government?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntQfkc7DRsY

^ this song is so strong but it is such a great song.

If i try copy/pasting by right-clicking from the GameSpot Forum Textbox thingymajig, it says:

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At the time, i was using the mouse, so i right-clicked and it messed up. Ctrl+ c/v does indeed work.

EDIT: Ah. I have to change my preferences, because this is "unpriveleged script." It does this to protect users' private info.

If i try copy/pasting by right-clicking from the GameSpot Forum Textbox thingymajig, it says:

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At the time, i was using the mouse, so i right-clicked and it messed up. Ctrl+ c/v does indeed work.

kakashi552

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntQfkc7DRsY

^ listen

[QUOTE="kakashi552"]

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taj7575

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntQfkc7DRsY

^ listen

Ouch. I didn't see it all (its 5 mins long) but i agree with most of what i've seen! But somehow i doubt Bush is a Nazi... (i did see the comparisons, on the other hand)

To tell you the truth, i stopped it because it was kinda creepin' me out. Dule bellum inexpertis. That video made me just a little bit more expertis.

[QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="kakashi552"]

If i try copy/pasting by right-clicking from the GameSpot Forum Textbox thingymajig, it says:

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kakashi552

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntQfkc7DRsY

^ listen

Ouch. I didn't see it all (its 5 mins long) but i agree with most of what i've seen! But somehow i doubt Bush is a Nazi... (i did see the comparisons, on the other hand)

To tell you the truth, i stopped it because it was kinda creepin' me out. Dule bellum inexpertis. That video made me just a little bit more expertis.

I know right? The song is crazy as hell, but most is truth we have to realize. Dont even try to lisen to his other songs. its so song........but he speaks so much truth..so...

Hah! Found it!

David Ray Griffin

was the name. Now pardon my french, but i need to get to bed. Have fun not being part of a ring of stinking politicians!

and a good night's sleep too, i guess...

I chose Christianity, even though I'm Agnostic. I dont know why anyone who isn't Islamic would choose Islam. A person judges a religion by its followers... and I would much rather follow Christianity in this day and age.helium_flash

In my opinion, Islam has better morals. Plus, it's easier to put into your everyday life. The only big thing for anyone's budget is the hajj to Mecca, but you only have to do that once in your whole lifetime. Easiest way to get 72 virgins.

[QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]If I were Islamic, I'd probably be dead now. So. . . . .Theokhoth

why'd you say that.

i'm a muslim

Well, I suppose it would depend on the country I live in, so that statement wasn't quite right. Sorry.

:roll: Blatant ignorance.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]I chose Christianity, even though I'm Agnostic. I dont know why anyone who isn't Islamic would choose Islam. A person judges a religion by its followers... and I would much rather follow Christianity in this day and age.scorch-62

In my opinion, Islam has better morals. Plus, it's easier to put into your everyday life. The only big thing for anyone's budget is the hajj to Mecca, but you only have to do that once in your whole lifetime. Easiest way to get 72 virgins.

Isn't that only granted to martyrs?

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]I chose Christianity, even though I'm Agnostic. I dont know why anyone who isn't Islamic would choose Islam. A person judges a religion by its followers... and I would much rather follow Christianity in this day and age.Shad0ki11

In my opinion, Islam has better morals. Plus, it's easier to put into your everyday life. The only big thing for anyone's budget is the hajj to Mecca, but you only have to do that once in your whole lifetime. Easiest way to get 72 virgins.

Isn't that only granted to martyrs?

From what I've been taught, no. I'm lazy, so I'm not Googling it for you (soz...) :P

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]I chose Christianity, even though I'm Agnostic. I dont know why anyone who isn't Islamic would choose Islam. A person judges a religion by its followers... and I would much rather follow Christianity in this day and age.scorch-62

In my opinion, Islam has better morals. Plus, it's easier to put into your everyday life. The only big thing for anyone's budget is the hajj to Mecca, but you only have to do that once in your whole lifetime. Easiest way to get 72 virgins.

Isn't that only granted to martyrs?

From what I've been taught, no. I'm lazy, so I'm not Googling it for you (soz...) :P

I could Google it, but since you've been "taught" this, why don't you confirm it with knowledge?

From what I've been taught, no. I'm lazy, so I'm not Googling it for you (soz...) :P scorch-62

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]From what I've been taught, no. I'm lazy, so I'm not Googling it for you (soz...) :P Harshvardhan666

So what I've been taught is a lie. Go figure.

You're right, Shad0kki11. :P

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]

From what I've been taught, no. I'm lazy, so I'm not Googling it for you (soz...) :P Harshvardhan666

:lol: So much better. :roll:

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]

From what I've been taught, no. I'm lazy, so I'm not Googling it for you (soz...) :P battlefront23

:lol: So much better. :roll:

Perhaps, you forgot to read that it is a weak hadith. Therefore has almost no authority.

Didn't bother to read any more than the first page, but anyways...

ZOMG It's the crusades all over again!!! :shock:

I'm Christian.

mayormoose

Wow, u FAIL HARSH

Posting a thread like this is just gonna get people to vote for their religon, and theres much more christians then people who follow islam on gamespot.

First of all, thanks for the compliment - I'm enjoying this conversation as well. :)

Yes of course I agree that evil is wrong and must be stopped, but, *incoming cliche* two wrongs don't make a right. By using violence to stop violence, you're just putting yourself on the same level as the evil-doer you're trying to stop.

Violence is wrong, and there is no need for it anymore because we live in a much more civilized society than there was 2000 years ago when society was barbaric. Now, even in worst case scenarios, when all nonviolent methods have not worked, you just pray about it and leave the rest to God. By not resorting to violence, you are showing that you're morally superior to your enemy, and that you won't abandon your beliefs even in the toughest of times.

abdelmessih101

im a muslim so its islam hereNSR34GTR

QFT

They are both Abrahimic religions, but i choose Islam :)

By the way, martyrdom is a guraunteed ticket to heaven in Christianity.

abdelmessih101

That is false.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]If I were Islamic, I'd probably be dead now. So. . . . .battlefront23

why'd you say that.

i'm a muslim

Well, I suppose it would depend on the country I live in, so that statement wasn't quite right. Sorry.

:roll: Blatant ignorance.

I apologised. I simply misstated what I meant.

I like it when mods allow topics like these which are not only sensitive, but open the door for fights and flaming and fruitless arguments and other spammish topics like when someone celebrates the number of posts he/she has and lock my birthday topic... Yes I'm bitter!

Anyways, the source of the three Abrahamic religions is one however, Islam is the only religion that hasn't changed ever since the messege reached prophet Mohammad pbuh and won't change* this is why there are mijahideen and people who bomb themselves btw, some call them extremists but they're only doing it to keep the holy book from changing* I believe in the three Abrahamic religions and nothing else but I only practise Islam because the two previous religions were changed by people.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]If I were Islamic, I'd probably be dead now. So. . . . .Theokhoth

why'd you say that.

i'm a muslim

Well, I suppose it would depend on the country I live in, so that statement wasn't quite right. Sorry.

:roll: Blatant ignorance.

I apologised. I simply misstated what I meant.

I'm muslim. Next time you see many muslim posters think twice before posting funny jokes like the one you just said and there's nothing wrong with saying I don't freaking know about *insert a religion here* and ask! Just ask!

I'm muslim. Next time you see many muslim posters think twice before posting funny jokes like the one you just said and there's nothing wrong with saying I don't freaking know about *insert a religion here* and ask! Just ask!

gamingqueen

It wasn't a joke. And I ended up being moderated for it.

It was resolved later on in the topic anyway (about page three or four).

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

I'm muslim. Next time you see many muslim posters think twice before posting funny jokes like the one you just said and there's nothing wrong with saying I don't freaking know about *insert a religion here* and ask! Just ask!

Theokhoth

It wasn't a joke. And I ended up being moderated for it.

It was resolved later on in the topic anyway (about page three or four).

I didn't report you. I don't report anyone here btw... but anyways, just ask if you don't know about something.

At least you're not like my english teacher... She's Kuwaiti and insults Kuwaiti people and muslim and insults muslims.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="TheKonspiracy"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]If I were Islamic, I'd probably be dead now. So. . . . .gamingqueen

why'd you say that.

i'm a muslim

Well, I suppose it would depend on the country I live in, so that statement wasn't quite right. Sorry.

:roll: Blatant ignorance.

I apologised. I simply misstated what I meant.

I'm muslim. Next time you see many muslim posters think twice before posting funny jokes like the one you just said and there's nothing wrong with saying I don't freaking know about *insert a religion here* and ask! Just ask!