Christianity vs. Science

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

This is Sparta.:|

Anyway, http://godandscience.org/apologetics/religionhealth.html

quiglythegreat

Point taken, but religion does not provide better standards of living or technological advances.CptJSparrow

Better living: Depends on what you mean by that.

Technological advances: No, but does it need to provide everything? Thank God for science. . .

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Point taken, but religion does not provide better standards of living or technological advances.Silver_Dragon17

Better living: Depends on what you mean by that.

Technological advances: No, but does it need to provide everything? Thank God for science. . .

Religious people do good things because they're good, not because God is "wagging a finger at us."

Silver_Dragon17

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Point taken, but religion does not provide better standards of living or technological advances.quiglythegreat

Better living: Depends on what you mean by that.

Technological advances: No, but does it need to provide everything? Thank God for science. . .

There we go.

[QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Look at the facts and you'll know what you're believing in is the nonsense.

Silver_Dragon17

Careful what you call other people's beliefs, eh? ;)

No I'm more concerned iin what happens with your eternity. Oh wait, in Atheism life is meaningless. It seems like everyone should be emo now since we have nothing to live for.

then what the heck do you base your life on?

Science and psychology have proven that there is no such thing as a "lack of a belief system." EVERYBODY believes in SOMETHING, and these beliefs shape their worldview.

Religious people do good things because they're good, not because God is "wagging a finger at us."

There we go.

Silver_Dragon17

Which would be? Current I hope....

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Religious people do good things because they're good, not because God is "wagging a finger at us."

quiglythegreat

The other guy said religious people do good things because God is wagging a finger at us, not because they're good. Not true.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Look at the facts and you'll know what you're believing in is the nonsense.

slinky6

Careful what you call other people's beliefs, eh? ;)

No I'm more concerned iin what happens with your eternity. Oh wait, in Atheism life is meaningless. It seems like everyone should be emo now since we have nothing to live for.

then what the heck do you base your life on?

This is trippy, but then you are indeed believing in somthing then. Everyone has a religion because everyone has beliefs.

in my experience,ive notice that christains who take there teaching outs of context,and follow them to strictly,seems to disbelieve anything thats started in a test tube.there is no reason for science and religion to feud,unless you dont know enough about science and religion.

uhhh
//end rant

That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? slinky6

Because there's much more to religion than that.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

There we go.

LJS9502_basic

Which would be? Current I hope....

[QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Look at the facts and you'll know what you're believing in is the nonsense.

battlefront23

Careful what you call other people's beliefs, eh? ;)

No I'm more concerned iin what happens with your eternity. Oh wait, in Atheism life is meaningless. It seems like everyone should be emo now since we have nothing to live for.

then what the heck do you base your life on?

This is trippy, but then you are indeed believing in somthing then. Everyone has a religion because everyone has beliefs.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

There we go.

CptJSparrow

Which would be? Current I hope....

Uh....what are you responding to here?

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? Silver_Dragon17

Because there's much more to religion than that.

pics or it didn't happen

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? slinky6

Because there's much more to religion than that.

It really depends on the religion. Christianity is living like Christ did, and looking forward to seeing Him. It also wants us to learn more about His creation (how could we do this? Hmm. . .if only there was some sort of method for studying the natural universe. . ) It's difficult to describe, but the 'point' of Christianity would have to center around Christ.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Look at the facts and you'll know what you're believing in is the nonsense.

slinky6

Careful what you call other people's beliefs, eh? ;)

No I'm more concerned iin what happens with your eternity. Oh wait, in Atheism life is meaningless. It seems like everyone should be emo now since we have nothing to live for.

then what the heck do you base your life on?

This is trippy, but then you are indeed believing in somthing then. Everyone has a religion because everyone has beliefs.

Ah but they do... religion is a series, you guessed it! beliefs!

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

There we go.

LJS9502_basic

Which would be? Current I hope....

Uh....what are you responding to here?

This thread just shows just how ignorant people can be. Sliver's post had plently of logic to it, and his religion gets questioned!

This is why I want religion arguement topics banned.

This thread just shows just how ignorant people can be. Sliver's post had plently of logic to it, and his religion gets questioned!

This is why I want religion arguement topics banned.

Fireball2500

I don't mind people questioning my religion. I mind people bashing my religion, and ignoring any attempts to reason.

This thread just shows just how ignorant people can be. Sliver's post had plently of logic to it, and his religion gets questioned!

This is why I want religion arguement topics banned.

Fireball2500

If they offend you don't read them....and there is nothing wrong with discussion. Those that bash or insult should be ignored.

Ah but they do... religion is a series, you guessed it! beliefs!

battlefront23

1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:to enter religion.

5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

The bolded words are the reasons why my beliefs are not religious. The last definition is the one you are getting at. But that is not religion in the conventional sense, and very rarely do you hear people using the word that way.

Ah but they do... religion is a series, you guessed it! beliefs!

battlefront23

[QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? Silver_Dragon17

Because there's much more to religion than that.

It really depends on the religion. Christianity is living like Christ did, and looking forward to seeing Him. It also wants us to learn more about His creation (how could we do this? Hmm. . .if only there was some sort of method for studying the natural universe. . ) It's difficult to describe, but the 'point' of Christianity would have to center around Christ.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? quiglythegreat

Because there's much more to religion than that.

It really depends on the religion. Christianity is living like Christ did, and looking forward to seeing Him. It also wants us to learn more about His creation (how could we do this? Hmm. . .if only there was some sort of method for studying the natural universe. . ) It's difficult to describe, but the 'point' of Christianity would have to center around Christ.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? quiglythegreat

Because there's much more to religion than that.

It really depends on the religion. Christianity is living like Christ did, and looking forward to seeing Him. It also wants us to learn more about His creation (how could we do this? Hmm. . .if only there was some sort of method for studying the natural universe. . ) It's difficult to describe, but the 'point' of Christianity would have to center around Christ.

By contemplating human goodness, we are in effect worshipping Christ. The Bible doesn't say to build churches instead of help people; It says the opposite. By doing as Christ does, you worship Christ.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? Silver_Dragon17

Because there's much more to religion than that.

It really depends on the religion. Christianity is living like Christ did, and looking forward to seeing Him. It also wants us to learn more about His creation (how could we do this? Hmm. . .if only there was some sort of method for studying the natural universe. . ) It's difficult to describe, but the 'point' of Christianity would have to center around Christ.

By contemplating human goodness, we are in effect worshipping Christ. The Bible doesn't say to build churches instead of help people; It says the opposite. By doing as Christ does, you worship Christ.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]That's true, I suppose. However, why do people need religion, if good people do good things and bad people do bad things? What's the point of it? Silver_Dragon17

Because there's much more to religion than that.

It really depends on the religion. Christianity is living like Christ did, and looking forward to seeing Him. It also wants us to learn more about His creation (how could we do this? Hmm. . .if only there was some sort of method for studying the natural universe. . ) It's difficult to describe, but the 'point' of Christianity would have to center around Christ.

By contemplating human goodness, we are in effect worshipping Christ. The Bible doesn't say to build churches instead of help people; It says the opposite. By doing as Christ does, you worship Christ.

To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
slinky6

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him..Silver_Dragon17

What?

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
CptJSparrow

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him..LJS9502_basic

What?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him..LJS9502_basic

What?

By doing as He does, you are worshipping Him. Many Atheists do as He does. Like I said, do you have to believe in Christ to sign the date?

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

I believe it was Jesus the human that was proved to exist, NOT christ... i've said this before, there were many before jesus and after him all the way up to this day that say they are the son of god or the messiah.. back then they were put to death for it, jesus was not special.. today they either start a cult or end up in a mental hospital..

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
slinky6

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

References?

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
import_fighter1

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

I believe it was Jesus the human that was proved to exist, NOT christ... i've said this before, there were many before jesus and after him all the way up to this day that say they are the son of god or the messiah.. back then they were put to death for it, jesus was not special.. today they either start a cult or end up in a mental hospital..

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
import_fighter1

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

I believe it was Jesus the human that was proved to exist, NOT christ... i've said this before, there were many before jesus and after him all the way up to this day that say they are the son of god or the messiah.. back then they were put to death for it, jesus was not special.. today they either start a cult or end up in a mental hospital..

Such as. . .?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him..Silver_Dragon17

What?

By doing as He does, you are worshipping Him. Many Atheists do as He does. Like I said, do you have to believe in Christ to sign the date?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
slinky6

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
slinky6

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him..Silver_Dragon17

What?

By doing as He does, you are worshipping Him. Many Atheists do as He does. Like I said, do you have to believe in Christ to sign the date?

Somehow I think you have the message of Christianity confused....and what does a date have to do with anything?

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
mig_killer2

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
CptJSparrow

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

Then what is? How do we know anything ever happened in history?

[QUOTE="slinky6"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]To worship Christ you have to believe in Christ. Which I don't because of the 40 year gap.
Silver_Dragon17

Christ has been proven to exist.:|

Do you have to believe in Him to sign the date? No. You don't have to believe in Him to worship Him. The two are different.

References?

I look forward to your explanation of this.