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#51 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Gaikai and OnLive had the right idea, it seems.Hexagon_777

Well this isn't really like that. A computer running Chrome OS will still do the processing of a Flash game (e.g.) on the client-side.

That's why I said that, because Gaikai and OnLive don't require any major processing on the client side. Chrome OS suffices in that regard, for it is a web browser. o.O

When you load a Flash game in a web browser, your computer is the one doing all the processing. It's all local computation: the plugin loads on your local computer; the keyboard inputs are handled on your computer to generate a new state in the video game; and this is then used to generate a new frame to display to the screen. In Gaikai and OnLive, on the other hand, your keyboard inputs are all just fed to a server which does that computation and then sends back the new frame over the network connection. Playing a game in Gaikai and OnLive is basically computationally equivalent to watching an streaming video as far as your local computer is concerned. That's not the case with Flash games in Chrome OS or any web browser.

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#52 194197844077667059316682358889
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To put Gabu's point another way, it's sort of like a thin client, cloud computing approach, just without providing a cloud :P
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#53 GabuEx
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To put Gabu's point another way, it's sort of like a thin client, cloud computing approach, just without providing a cloud :Pxaos

It's like a cloud, only the cloud is downloaded to your computer. :P

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#54 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"]To put Gabu's point another way, it's sort of like a thin client, cloud computing approach, just without providing a cloud :PGabuEx

It's like a cloud, only the cloud is downloaded to your computer. :P

If so, it's an extremely tiny cloud
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#55 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]Well this isn't really like that. A computer running Chrome OS will still do the processing of a Flash game (e.g.) on the client-side.GabuEx
That's why I said that, because Gaikai and OnLive don't require any major processing on the client side. Chrome OS suffices in that regard, for it is a web browser. o.O

When you load a Flash game in a web browser, your computer is the one doing all the processing. It's all local computation: the plugin loads on your local computer; the keyboard inputs are handled on your computer to generate a new state in the video game; and this is then used to generate a new frame to display to the screen. In Gaikai and OnLive, on the other hand, your keyboard inputs are all just fed to a server which does that computation and then sends back the new frame over the network connection. Playing a game in Gaikai and OnLive is basically computationally equivalent to watching an streaming video as far as your local computer is concerned. That's not the case with Flash games in Chrome OS or any web browser.

I am not even arguing against you, bro. :cry:

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#56 Vadislav
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Will there be gaming? This is the most important question.
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#57 Ninja-Hippo
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Why cant Google be happy being multigabillionaires and king of the search industry? Must they take over the world too? :(
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#58 Hexagon_777
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Will there be gaming? This is the most important question.Vadislav
Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.

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#59 Vadislav
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[QUOTE="Vadislav"]Will there be gaming? This is the most important question.Hexagon_777

Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.

What is Gaikai? Also will there be Steam? Like half my games are on it.
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#60 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Vadislav"]Will there be gaming? This is the most important question.Vadislav
Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.

What is Gaikai? Also will there be Steam? Like half my games are on it.

Highly unlikely for now. Stick with Windows for that! Also, Gaikai.

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#61 topsemag55
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Why cant Google be happy being multigabillionaires and king of the search industry? Must they take over the world too? :(Ninja-Hippo

Google wants to be the proof of George Orwell's 1984...that's why Europe is so mad at Google right now, invading people's privacy.

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#62 cornholio157
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Idont see why everyonekeeps asking this butthere wont be any games at all, no steam, no games for windows type of games. only things you can play soley in your web browser like flash games.

chome OS isnt an OS in the traditional sence of OS's its technically a computer that boots to the internet broswer google chrome in under 10 seconds and nothing more.

to put it (more)bluntly its a computer that has the internet and nothing else and boots 3-5 times faster than a fresh install of any windows or mac OS.

its intended for tablet and netbook types of PCs not for desktops which99.99% of the time require a full OSfor one reason or another.

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#63 Vadislav
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[QUOTE="Vadislav"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.Hexagon_777

What is Gaikai? Also will there be Steam? Like half my games are on it.

Highly unlikely for now. Stick with Windows for that! Also, Gaikai.

This **** has to cost money.

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#64 MagnumPI
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At the source all operating systems are the same. They're just pages and pages of protocols and commands. The only thing thing differs is some Operating systems are designed to ONLY work with specefic hardware & software( patent & marketing purposes)while others are designed to work with any hardware as well as sofrware. Other than that each offer different features. Some flashier than others. It's all the same junk, just looks different in orderto distinguish one from the other.

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#65 jeremiah06
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If almost nobody wants the Apple OS, really nobody is going to want the Google OS.

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#66 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Vadislav"]Will there be gaming? This is the most important question.Hexagon_777

Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.

OnLive uses flash? :o Edit: Based on my research, OnLive uses native clients (an ActiveX control in the case of Windows), so unless OnLive specifically provides a client for Chrome OS, you cannot in fact use OnLive there.
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#67 deactivated-5cacc9e03b460
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Chrome OS doesn't interest me in the slightest, if I wasn't using windows, I'd use linux. I also tend to stay away from Google products...

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#68 Remmib
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Chrome OS doesn't interest me in the slightest, if I wasn't using windows, I'd use linux. I also tend to stay away from Google products...

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Jokes on you, Google Chrome is the best browser there is.
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#69 Chris_Williams
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i guarantee google is going to come out with their on computers soon

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#70 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Vadislav"]Will there be gaming? This is the most important question.xaos
Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.

OnLive uses flash? :o Edit: Based on my research, OnLive uses native clients (an ActiveX control in the case of Windows), so unless OnLive specifically provides a client for Chrome OS, you cannot in fact use OnLive there.

I didn't say OnLive uses Flash, but in the case of PCs, OnLive provides a browser plug in and I'd assume that OnLive would prepare one for Chrome as well judging from its massive market share and growth.

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Like Gabu said, flash games will definitely work, and like I said, if you have a Gaikai or OnLive subscription, you're set.Hexagon_777

OnLive uses flash? :o Edit: Based on my research, OnLive uses native clients (an ActiveX control in the case of Windows), so unless OnLive specifically provides a client for Chrome OS, you cannot in fact use OnLive there.

I didn't say OnLive uses Flash, but in the case of PCs, OnLive provides a browser plug in and I'd assume that OnLive would prepare one for Chrome as well judging from its massive market share and growth.

Well, the thing is that you can't compile to a native "Chrome" format, so unless OnLive can work with web technologies such as Flash or HTML5, neither they nor anyone else can have "Chrome OS applications". Chrome OS is designed strictly for web applications; just as you cannot play OnLive games in the Chrome browser, you cannot on the so-called Chrome OS. Edit: Another way of putting it is that there seems to be no notion of "native clients" for Chrome OS.
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#72 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="xaos"] OnLive uses flash? :o Edit: Based on my research, OnLive uses native clients (an ActiveX control in the case of Windows), so unless OnLive specifically provides a client for Chrome OS, you cannot in fact use OnLive there.xaos
I didn't say OnLive uses Flash, but in the case of PCs, OnLive provides a browser plug in and I'd assume that OnLive would prepare one for Chrome as well judging from its massive market share and growth.

Well, the thing is that you can't compile to a native "Chrome" format, so unless OnLive can work with web technologies such as Flash or HTML5, neither they nor anyone else can have "Chrome OS applications". Chrome OS is designed strictly for web applications; just as you cannot play OnLive games in the Chrome browser, you cannot on the so-called Chrome OS. Edit: Another way of putting it is that there seems to be no notion of "native clients" for Chrome OS.

Thank you for the explanatrion! I am at a loss with regards to their browser plug in method, though. If OnLive and Gaikai intend to work through the browser, and don't use Flash or HTML5, then surely Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, and Opera will face the same issues you described with Chrome, right?

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#73 yellosnolvr
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What can Chrome do with regards to my PC gaming needs?

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give you flash games. if those are even compatible...
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#74 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]What can Chrome do with regards to my PC gaming needs?yellosnolvr
give you flash games. if those are even compatible...

They should be. Chrome itself comes with Flash, so one assume that Chrome OS does the same.