cigs worse then weed

why do people constantly say weed should be illegal and how horrible it is but nobody cares that cigarettes are legal? cigs claim 100% more lives each year then weed (dont think anyone has died from it) and has alot more bad affects to your health. if youre really worried about peoples health then you should be more concerned about people actually dying then people acting stupid or goofy on pot. alcohol is alot worse for your health also and still people drink but want marijuana illegal? whats the reason? it kills braincells. thats all i can think of but booze kills braincells and is alot more dangerous.

im pretty sure (not 100%) that weed isnt physically addictive yet cigs and booze are. so how can anyone be against weed? it even has several benefits (which tobacco or booze doesnt) such as hemp can be used for tons of things such as clothes and has been proven to help people with terminal illnesses.

so if anyone has any real reasons why weed shouldnt be legal and is bad then lets hear em

Both are bad for you.

And marijuana and hemp are very different.

coz people het HIGH with weed, not with ciggies, people can get weed psychosis plus everyone will think theyre so manly coz they smoke weed, annoying as hellForumposter

did your cat just run onto your keyboard? or was that serious

let's ban everythingJOhkonut

on a serious note,

weed isn't addictive, but

1) it can't be taxed

2) in general, people want it to be illegal because it is demonized

Ciggarettes and booze are worse than weed. But they're already legal and they are too ingrained in American culture to be criminalized.

Just because weed isn't as bad as what's out there doesn't mean it should be legalized.

let's ban everythingJOhkonut

Wow... you might wanna brush up on your facts before making a generic pro-weed thread man. Just because you can make shirts out of hemp doesn't mean smoking weed is safer :lol:Setsa

why do people constantly say weed should be illegal and how horrible it is but nobody cares that cigarettes are legal? cigs claim 100% more lives each year then weed (dont think anyone has died from it) and has alot more bad affects to your health. if youre really worried about peoples health then you should be more concerned about people actually dying then people acting stupid or goofy on pot. alcohol is alot worse for your health also and still people drink but want marijuana illegal? whats the reason? it kills braincells. thats all i can think of but booze kills braincells and is alot more dangerous.

im pretty sure (not 100%) that weed isnt physically addictive yet cigs and booze are. so how can anyone be against weed? it even has several benefits (which tobacco or booze doesnt) such as hemp can be used for tons of things such as clothes and has been proven to help people with terminal illnesses.

so if anyone has any real reasons why weed shouldnt be legal and is bad then lets hear em

modestkraut1291

A study by the British Lung Foundation found that just three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage as 20 cigarettes.

Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco.

Misconception

Surveys carried out earlier this year showed that 79% of children believed that cannabis was 'safe'.

Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking the drug.

The British Lung Foundation report also shows that the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s.

That means that clinical studies carried out in the sixties and seventies may well underestimate the ill effects of smoking the drug.

This is due to increased amounts of THC - or delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the major active chemical compound - in the cannabis consumed today.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

Wow... you might wanna brush up on your facts before making a generic pro-weed thread man. Just because you can make shirts out of hemp doesn't mean smoking weed is safer :lol:Setsa

yup i know just about everything there is to know "man". im asking you people to give some reason why it isnt safer

-While it's argued that weed is psychologically addictive (literally anything can be), it's a proven fact nicotine is phsyically addictive.

-It's impossible to OD on weed. They ran tests on mice that concluded the amount of THC needed to kill a human would be the equivilant of thousands of joints smoked simultaniously. Nicotine however kills hundreds of thousands a year in the U.S. alone.

-It's theorized that weed can cause cancer simply because you are btreating smoke, there has never been a reported case however. I think we all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer because of their carcinogenic additives.

It's obvious tobacco is far more dangerous than marijuana. The arguments that keep marijuana illegal are made because of misinformation like DARE and people that simply don't want another possible dangerous over the counter drug, like nicotine or alcohol.

If it was up to me, all tobacco products would be illegal, while marijuana would be legal. The millions tobacco lobbyists spend in Washington will ensure that never happens though.

[QUOTE="Setsa"]Wow... you might wanna brush up on your facts before making a generic pro-weed thread man. Just because you can make shirts out of hemp doesn't mean smoking weed is safer :lol:spliffstar12

[QUOTE="Setsa"]Wow... you might wanna brush up on your facts before making a generic pro-weed thread man. Just because you can make shirts out of hemp doesn't mean smoking weed is safer :lol:modestkraut1291

yup i know just about everything there is to know "man". im asking you people to give some reason why it isnt safer

It's theorized that weed can cause cancer simply because you are btreating smoke, there has never been a reported case however. I think we all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer because of their carcinogenic additives.mfacek

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"][QUOTE="Setsa"]Wow... you might wanna brush up on your facts before making a generic pro-weed thread man. Just because you can make shirts out of hemp doesn't mean smoking weed is safer :lol:Setsa

[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"]

why do people constantly say weed should be illegal and how horrible it is but nobody cares that cigarettes are legal? cigs claim 100% more lives each year then weed (dont think anyone has died from it) and has alot more bad affects to your health. if youre really worried about peoples health then you should be more concerned about people actually dying then people acting stupid or goofy on pot. alcohol is alot worse for your health also and still people drink but want marijuana illegal? whats the reason? it kills braincells. thats all i can think of but booze kills braincells and is alot more dangerous.

im pretty sure (not 100%) that weed isnt physically addictive yet cigs and booze are. so how can anyone be against weed? it even has several benefits (which tobacco or booze doesnt) such as hemp can be used for tons of things such as clothes and has been proven to help people with terminal illnesses.

so if anyone has any real reasons why weed shouldnt be legal and is bad then lets hear em

Nkemjo

A study by the British Lung Foundation found that just three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage as 20 cigarettes.

Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco.

Misconception

Surveys carried out earlier this year showed that 79% of children believed that cannabis was 'safe'.

Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking the drug.

The British Lung Foundation report also shows that the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s.

That means that clinical studies carried out in the sixties and seventies may well underestimate the ill effects of smoking the drug.

This is due to increased amounts of THC - or delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the major active chemical compound - in the cannabis consumed today.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

yeah and there has also been studies done that prove that even with the increased tar, the risk of lung cancer is like 5%.

i dont know the specifics probably cuz i didnt just do a google search

[QUOTE="mfacek"]It's theorized that weed can cause cancer simply because you are btreating smoke, there has never been a reported case however. I think we all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer because of their carcinogenic additives.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="mfacek"]It's theorized that weed can cause cancer simply because you are btreating smoke, there has never been a reported case however. I think we all know that cigarettes cause lung cancer because of their carcinogenic additives.Vandalvideo

You are right. Weed has not carcinogens so you don't get cancer. It has nothing that you get addicted to like cigarettes, it is habituating not adictive. Also it is way safer than alchohol, because people that smoke don't get all violent and beat thier wife and then go crash thier car into someone else. Most of the things that are bad about it, such as it being a gateway drug, and causeing people to attack cops and stuff are because it is illegal. If it was legal, those wouldn't happen.Jacobistheman

yup

You don't think? So this study was entirely done in your head?

I'll say again that I honestly think those that advocate for this cause sometimes do more harm than good.

[QUOTE="Nkemjo"][QUOTE="modestkraut1291"]

why do people constantly say weed should be illegal and how horrible it is but nobody cares that cigarettes are legal? cigs claim 100% more lives each year then weed (dont think anyone has died from it) and has alot more bad affects to your health. if youre really worried about peoples health then you should be more concerned about people actually dying then people acting stupid or goofy on pot. alcohol is alot worse for your health also and still people drink but want marijuana illegal? whats the reason? it kills braincells. thats all i can think of but booze kills braincells and is alot more dangerous.

im pretty sure (not 100%) that weed isnt physically addictive yet cigs and booze are. so how can anyone be against weed? it even has several benefits (which tobacco or booze doesnt) such as hemp can be used for tons of things such as clothes and has been proven to help people with terminal illnesses.

so if anyone has any real reasons why weed shouldnt be legal and is bad then lets hear em

modestkraut1291

A study by the British Lung Foundation found that just three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage as 20 cigarettes.

Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco.

Misconception

Surveys carried out earlier this year showed that 79% of children believed that cannabis was 'safe'.

Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking the drug.

The British Lung Foundation report also shows that the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s.

That means that clinical studies carried out in the sixties and seventies may well underestimate the ill effects of smoking the drug.

This is due to increased amounts of THC - or delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the major active chemical compound - in the cannabis consumed today.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

yeah and there has also been studies done that prove that even with the increased tar, the risk of lung cancer is like 5%.

i dont know the specifics probably cuz i didnt just do a google search

Please don't contradict yourself. In your OP you said that ciggarettes are more carcinogenic than weed but now you say that weed is only 5% more carcinogenic than cigs. Please show me a modern study that shows weed to be less toxic, if anything these new studies are showing that we were misinformed in our views to its effects.

Also 100% more of 0 is 0. You just made up your OP from the top of your head.

Why are marijuana threads starting to become as frequent as religion threads?Darth_Tyrev

because people actually say things that are interesting in them.

instead of those rivetiving threads like "whats better? skittles or smarties?"

As they have from ... cars, etc.mfacek

That doesn't mean it should be illegal, especially considering tobacco DIRECTLY kills more people in the U.S. every year then any other for of accident, disease, sickness, etc.

[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"][QUOTE="Nkemjo"]

A study by the British Lung Foundation found that just three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage as 20 cigarettes.

Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco.

Misconception

Surveys carried out earlier this year showed that 79% of children believed that cannabis was 'safe'.

Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking the drug.

The British Lung Foundation report also shows that the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s.

That means that clinical studies carried out in the sixties and seventies may well underestimate the ill effects of smoking the drug.

This is due to increased amounts of THC - or delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the major active chemical compound - in the cannabis consumed today.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

Nkemjo

yeah and there has also been studies done that prove that even with the increased tar, the risk of lung cancer is like 5%.

i dont know the specifics probably cuz i didnt just do a google search

Please don't contradict yourself. In your OP you said that ciggarettes are more carcinogenic than weed but now you say that weed is only 5% more carcinogenic than cigs. Please show me a modern study that shows weed to be less toxic, if anything these new studies are showing that we were misinformed in our views to its effects.

Also 100% more of 0 is 0. You just made up your OP from the top of your head.

reread his post lol he didnt say the risk was only 5% higher he said their is only a 5% risk in general

[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"][QUOTE="Nkemjo"]

A study by the British Lung Foundation found that just three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage as 20 cigarettes.

Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco.

Misconception

Surveys carried out earlier this year showed that 79% of children believed that cannabis was 'safe'.

Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking the drug.

The British Lung Foundation report also shows that the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s.

That means that clinical studies carried out in the sixties and seventies may well underestimate the ill effects of smoking the drug.

This is due to increased amounts of THC - or delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the major active chemical compound - in the cannabis consumed today.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

Nkemjo

yeah and there has also been studies done that prove that even with the increased tar, the risk of lung cancer is like 5%.

i dont know the specifics probably cuz i didnt just do a google search

Please don't contradict yourself. In your OP you said that ciggarettes are more carcinogenic than weed but now you say that weed is only 5% more carcinogenic than cigs. Please show me a modern study that shows weed to be less toxic, if anything these new studies are showing that we were misinformed in our views to its effects.

Also 100% more of 0 is 0. You just made up your OP from the top of your head.

yup i did make it up off the top of my head. i dont do internet searchs then post my results so people will think im a genius. i only meant that ive heard of a study done that proved pot somehow has a very low chance (or none) of giving you lung cancer. i dont know anything for sure and arent pretending to. im just telling you what ive read and the only proof i really need is that ive never seen ANYONE die from weed but yet thousands die from cigs, thus cigs are definitely more harmful its undisputable

yup i did make it up off the top of my head. i dont do internet searchs then post my results so people will think im a genius. i only meant that ive heard of a study done that proved pot somehow has a very low chance (or none) of giving you lung cancer. i dont know anything for sure and arent pretending to. im just telling you what ive read and the only proof i really need is that ive never seen ANYONE die from weed but yet thousands die from cigs, thus cigs are definitely more harmful its undisputablemodestkraut1291

[QUOTE="mfacek"] It's not a FACT. To be a fact it needs to have numerous studies all showing the same results across the baord. What you have is a THEORY. It isn't a FACT until suitable testing has been done to prove it. Also, research on tobacco has shown a DIRECT link to an increased cancer risk, not a casual one. If I reported a "study" of 300 people tomorrow stating that drinking less than 8 glasses of water everyday resulted in an increased risk of testicular cancer, would that definitively prove it? Of course not.Vandalvideo

There may be "proof" in the traditional sense, but certainly not proof in a scientific sense.

"Science is a social enterprise, and scientific work tends to be accepted by the community when it has been confirmed. Crucially, experimental and theoretical results must be reproduced by others within the science community."

The theory that marijuana causes testicular cancer doesn't need to be "disproved" by me. It needs to be retested again and again by various reaserchers finding the same result while excluding as many variables as possible. Variables that are impossible to exclude by doing a survey.

Untill YOU can show me studies showing the same result as the other you posted, it's a THEORY, not fact. This isn't me talking out of my butt, this is required in the scientific method.

[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"]yup i did make it up off the top of my head. i dont do internet searchs then post my results so people will think im a genius. i only meant that ive heard of a study done that proved pot somehow has a very low chance (or none) of giving you lung cancer. i dont know anything for sure and arent pretending to. im just telling you what ive read and the only proof i really need is that ive never seen ANYONE die from weed but yet thousands die from cigs, thus cigs are definitely more harmful its undisputableSetsa

no no im not. that was even a coherent statement. what more evidence do you need? its a complete FACT that THOUSANDS apon THOUSANDS of people have died from cigs. not a theory, not a idea, a FAAAAACT. i dont care if your mind turns to jello and your arms fall off when you smoke pot, nobody has ever ever ever died from it. check every single medical record that ever existed there will not be a page entitles "marijuana overdose". this is a childs logic here, take a minute to understand. cigs = alot of deaths weed = none. so that must mean....cigs are worse then weed!! hooray!!! now before you try to be condescending again, please read everything i say.

yup i did make it up off the top of my head. i dont do internet searchs then post my results so people will think im a genius. i only meant that ive heard of a study done that proved pot somehow has a very low chance (or none) of giving you lung cancer. i dont know anything for sure and arent pretending to. im just telling you what ive read and the only proof i really need is that ive never seen ANYONE die from weed but yet thousands die from cigs, thus cigs are definitely more harmful its undisputable

What? So using an actual scientific study to bolster my argument is me trying to look like a genius? I think it's more about giving my post some actual substance rather than hearsay and word of mouth passed on by people who think something is true because they 'heard it from a friend'. They have done the research and it was proven there are 50% more chemicals that cause cancer in these spliffs than there was in cigs. Both should be illegal.

why do people constantly say weed should be illegal and how horrible it is but nobody cares that cigarettes are legal? cigs claim 100% more lives each year then weed (dont think anyone has died from it) and has alot more bad affects to your health. if youre really worried about peoples health then you should be more concerned about people actually dying then people acting stupid or goofy on pot. alcohol is alot worse for your health also and still people drink but want marijuana illegal? whats the reason? it kills braincells. thats all i can think of but booze kills braincells and is alot more dangerous.

im pretty sure (not 100%) that weed isnt physically addictive yet cigs and booze are. so how can anyone be against weed? it even has several benefits (which tobacco or booze doesnt) such as hemp can be used for tons of things such as clothes and has been proven to help people with terminal illnesses.

so if anyone has any real reasons why weed shouldnt be legal and is bad then lets hear em

modestkraut1291

Well, hemp is actually a different plant breed than that of 'usable' cannabis. And even if the plants were one and the same, what practical uses would hemp have if you SMOKED IT ALL?!