Civil War if Obama Wins Reelection?

The idea of a second American Civil War beginning if Barack Obama is reelected as president is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard and this is especially so because of such an unrealistic reason. The American people would not agree to giving sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations. It would take its position of power away and give it to the other members of the United Nations and effectively dissolve the nation. This country already has enough power to surpass the United Nations and the entire world saw it when Iraq was invaded this past decade. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that president Obama or anyone in the United States government would ever do what Judge Head from Texas is worried about.BranKetra

The people are having their opportunity to say and do something about it right now. Most people aren't even aware that it's already happening through legislation. The people are too apathetic and asleep to see what's been going on. There's not going to be a vote that says- "Do you agree to our country losing it's sovereignty to the UN?" That's not how it works.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]The idea of a second American Civil War beginning if Barack Obama is reelected as president is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard and this is especially so because of such an unrealistic reason. The American people would not agree to giving sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations. It would take its position of power away and give it to the other members of the United Nations and effectively dissolve the nation. This country already has enough power to surpass the United Nations and the entire world saw it when Iraq was invaded this past decade. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that president Obama or anyone in the United States government would ever do what Judge Head from Texas is worried about.hartsickdiscipl

The people are having their opportunity to say and do something about it right now. Most people aren't even aware that it's already happening through legislation. The people are too apathetic and asleep to see what's been going on. There's not going to be a vote that says- "Do you agree to our country losing it's sovereignty to the UN?" That's not how it works.

lol, scared of u.n. troops. good one.

wait i know of a guy you may like better than me and may listen to as opposed to listening to some conniving politician or me telling you about why you should not listen to a conniving politician..

"From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years. No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide."

I do not think this Judge is the only one who sees the posibility of a Civil War. The Federal government has purchased millions of rounds of hollow point bullets and have yet to explain why.

I do not think this Judge is the only one who sees the posibility of a Civil War. The Federal government has purchased millions of rounds of hollow point bullets and have yet to explain why.

luis_07

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Would it really be that bad if the bible belt seceded from the US? :roll:

Aljosa23

wrong.

the southern half of Florida should be blue.

[QUOTE="luis_07"]

I do not think this Judge is the only one who sees the posibility of a Civil War. The Federal government has purchased millions of rounds of hollow point bullets and have yet to explain why.

Riverwolf007

The actual number is over 1.4 billion rounds of hollow point within roughly the last year. DHS purchased over 700 million rounds within the last month. The 1.4 billion is roughly 10 times their previous high for ammo purchased in a 12 month period. Not to mention that it's hollow point, which clearly isn't training ammo. They're planning on using it to shoot people.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="luis_07"]

I do not think this Judge is the only one who sees the posibility of a Civil War. The Federal government has purchased millions of rounds of hollow point bullets and have yet to explain why.

hartsickdiscipl

The actual number is over 1.4 billion rounds of hollow point within roughly the last year. DHS purchased over 700 million rounds within the last month. The 1.4 billion is roughly 10 times their previous high for ammo purchased in a 12 month period. Not to mention that it's hollow point, which clearly isn't training ammo. They're planning on using it to shoot people.

whats it like, being wrong all the time?

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]that does not sound unreasonable, i have a couple thousand rounds of those myself.

frannkzappa

The actual number is over 1.4 billion rounds of hollow point within roughly the last year. DHS purchased over 700 million rounds within the last month. The 1.4 billion is roughly 10 times their previous high for ammo purchased in a 12 month period. Not to mention that it's hollow point, which clearly isn't training ammo. They're planning on using it to shoot people.

whats it like, being wrong all the time?

How descriptive.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

The actual number is over 1.4 billion rounds of hollow point within roughly the last year. DHS purchased over 700 million rounds within the last month. The 1.4 billion is roughly 10 times their previous high for ammo purchased in a 12 month period. Not to mention that it's hollow point, which clearly isn't training ammo. They're planning on using it to shoot people.

hartsickdiscipl

whats it like, being wrong all the time?

How descriptive.

Does a question need to be descriptive?

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

whats it like, being wrong all the time?

frannkzappa

How descriptive.

Does a question need to be descriptive?

The only thing that I may be wrong about is the timeframe of the purchase of 1.4 billion rounds. Some sources say it took them 3 years to order that much, some say within the last year to 18 months.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

How descriptive.

hartsickdiscipl

Does a question need to be descriptive?

The only thing that I may be wrong about it the timeframe of the purchase of 1.4 billion rounds. Some sources say it took them 3 years to order that much, some say within the last year to 18 months.

so your saying there is a 100% chance that the government is going to massacre civilians with those bullets?

What are you going to do when that doesnt happen?

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Does a question need to be descriptive?

frannkzappa

The only thing that I may be wrong about it the timeframe of the purchase of 1.4 billion rounds. Some sources say it took them 3 years to order that much, some say within the last year to 18 months.

so your saying there is a 100% chance that the government is going to massacre civilians with those bullets?

What are you going to do when that doesnt happen?

What are you goning to do when that does happen?

Any idea of the timeline for the gov's plans hart?dave123321

right after the lizard Illuminati brain washes us and right before Obama sells the USA to the U.N and the bilderbergs.

Sheep

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Does a question need to be descriptive?

frannkzappa

The only thing that I may be wrong about it the timeframe of the purchase of 1.4 billion rounds. Some sources say it took them 3 years to order that much, some say within the last year to 18 months.

so your saying there is a 100% chance that the government is going to massacre civilians with those bullets?

What are you going to do when that doesnt happen?

There is never a 100% chance of anything. It comes down to deducing the most likely use for such a large amount of anti-personnel ammo. Then consider that DHS has very recently blacked-out public access to view their ongoing ammunition orders. They don't like the stir that it's causing.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

The only thing that I may be wrong about it the timeframe of the purchase of 1.4 billion rounds. Some sources say it took them 3 years to order that much, some say within the last year to 18 months.

luis_07

so your saying there is a 100% chance that the government is going to massacre civilians with those bullets?

What are you going to do when that doesnt happen?

What are you goning to do when that does happen?

No problem, im a freemason.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Does a question need to be descriptive?

frannkzappa

The only thing that I may be wrong about it the timeframe of the purchase of 1.4 billion rounds. Some sources say it took them 3 years to order that much, some say within the last year to 18 months.

so your saying there is a 100% chance that the government is going to massacre civilians with those bullets?

What are you going to do when that doesnt happen?

He can always claim that it's still in the planning, that there's no definate timeline. It's an easy claim to make because he can never be proved wrong about it.

Any idea of the timeline for the gov's plans hart?dave123321

I don't know any more than the thousands of other people who are aware of these mass ammo purchases. If I had to guess, I'd say pretty damn soon. Within the next 4 years. A lot of people seem to be leaning toward things going bad around the election this year.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Any idea of the timeline for the gov's plans hart?frannkzappa

right after the lizard Illuminati brain washes us and right before Obama sells the USA to the U.N and the bilderbergs.

At least you're aware of some of what's been going on. Now accept it.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Any idea of the timeline for the gov's plans hart?hartsickdiscipl

I don't know any more than the thousands of other people who are aware of these mass ammo purchases. If I had to guess, I'd say pretty damn soon. Within the next 4 years. A lot of people seem to be leaning toward things going bad around the election this year.

- There is never a 100% chance of anything. It comes down to deducing the most likely use for such a large amount of anti-personnel ammo.

- I don't know any more than the thousands of other people who are aware of these mass ammo purchases. If I had to guess, I'd say pretty damn soon. Within the next 4 years. A lot of people seem to be leaning toward things going bad around the election this year.

hartsickdiscipl

Yup.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Any idea of the timeline for the gov's plans hart?hartsickdiscipl

right after the lizard Illuminati brain washes us and right before Obama sells the USA to the U.N and the bilderbergs.

At least you're aware of some of what's been going on. Now accept it.

your just jealous your not a freemason.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

right after the lizard Illuminati brain washes us and right before Obama sells the USA to the U.N and the bilderbergs.

frannkzappa

At least you're aware of some of what's been going on. Now accept it.

your just jealous your not a freemason.

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

At least you're aware of some of what's been going on. Now accept it.

hartsickdiscipl

your just jealous your not a freemason.

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

At least you're aware of some of what's been going on. Now accept it.

hartsickdiscipl

your just jealous your not a freemason.

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

or im just not a drunken, rich inbred faux pagan I.E most the attendants of said grove.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

your just jealous your not a freemason.

frannkzappa

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

or im just not a drunken, rich inbred faux pagan I.E most the attendants of said grove.

Like this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

hartsickdiscipl

or im just not a drunken, rich inbred faux pagan I.E most the attendants of said grove.

Like this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

your just jealous your not a freemason.

Ace6301

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

Jon's house? Jon's a nobody. 2nd tier at best. Barely more than a cheerleader. You ain't truely in until you're meeting with O'Brien.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I didn't see you at Bohemian Grove. You can't be that important.

worlock77

Jon's house? Jon's a nobody. 2nd tier at best. Barely more than a cheerleader. You ain't truely in until you're meeting with O'Brien.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

or im just not a drunken, rich inbred faux pagan I.E most the attendants of said grove.

Ace6301

Like this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM

He was there filming their rituals and cornered David Gergen about it. The guy was so pissed-off. It's hilarious.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Like this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM

hartsickdiscipl

He was there filming their rituals and cornered David Gergen about it. The guy was so pissed-off. It's hilarious.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] I didn't see either of you at Jon's house last month.Ace6301

Jon's house? Jon's a nobody. 2nd tier at best. Barely more than a cheerleader. You ain't truely in until you're meeting with O'Brien.

That bastard isn't even 2nd tier. We only string him along because he can easily get his stripper sister and her friends to provide the entertainment on short notice.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Jon's house? Jon's a nobody. 2nd tier at best. Barely more than a cheerleader. You ain't truely in until you're meeting with O'Brien.

worlock77

That bastard isn't even 2nd tier. We only string him along because he can easily get his stripper sister and her friends to provide the entertainment on short notice.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] The other Jon. The fat one with the weird beard.Ace6301

That bastard isn't even 2nd tier. We only string him along because he can easily get his stripper sister and her friends to provide the entertainment on short notice.

I've no idea what either of you are talking about.