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#1 HFkami
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#2 joesh89
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Manga was around long before anime... and that snow queen doesn't look like anime to me.

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#3 mrmusicman247
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Manga was around long before anime... and that snow queen doesn't look like anime to me.

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My response as well.
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God damn commies and their anime. :P
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#5 muscleserge
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Russians are masters at animation, especially if you look at cartoons from the Soviet era, they are just amazing. I did notice some similarity but I don't think there was a profound enough influence, besides the style is very different.
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#6 Hexagon_777
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Whoa, the animation is so smooth in those clips. :o
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#7 weezyfb
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that animation style has been around
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#8 horgen  Moderator
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Whoa, the animation is so smooth in those clips. :oHexagon_777
Yeah. Must be the communism. :x :P
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#9 th3warr1or
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Doesn't look like anime. I hate anime and I thought that was awesome.
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#10 SaudiFury
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don't know about Russian inventing Anime - i doubt it.

but that animation was very good, especially when i think of Russia in 1957.

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#11 deactivated-59d151f079814
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............ The hell are you talking about.. No one "invented" japanese anime. Its merely a idenfitication from animation specifically from Japan.. Furthermore there is no set style in Japanese animations.. Animelike proportions? Anime is as diferent looking from one another as any other media out there.. Compare Akira, DBZ, Hellsing, Berserk, Gothem Knight, etc etc.. They all look different from one another with their own set styles.. There are anime that look realistic in proportions and character features, than there are ones that are overblown..
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#12 Oleg_Huzwog
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If you really want to pick an "inventor" of anime, credit Disney. There was no greater influence on the early stages of modern anime than Disney films and shorts.

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#13 a55a55inx
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I thought anime was inspired by old American cartoons such as Betty Boop...

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At 4:57 - Haters gonne hate.

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#15 delol
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Amazing Janese anime was invented by comunists .I am amaze but what the hell!these days i believe anything

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#16 Blaze787
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That's some very good animation for 1957, but there's nothing animé about it. In fact, it seems a bit closer to Disney than animé.

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#17 M4Ntan
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all these people going to Japan because they like anime should go to Russia then

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#18 yagr_zero
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In Soviet Russia, anime invents you. >_>
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#19 dagreenfish
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That's like saying Germans invented American cars.
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#20 delol
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In Soviet Russia, anime invents you. >_>Yagr_Zero
True and inUSA holyhood does exactly the same thing
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#21 Lord_Daemon
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First of all Tezuka is known as the God of manga not anime and although the animated adaptation of his works are very popular, the comic book form is where his bread is buttered historically speaking. Secondly although he does get credited with the familiar anime style of employing cute exaggerated features, these were created out of the influence of American animated features which he was very open about affecting his sensibilities in a big way. Lastly Tezuka's most well known creation Astro Boy was published starting in 1952 which is well before the Russian film which you reference as originating the style.

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#22 HFkami
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Manga was around long before anime... and that snow queen doesn't look like anime to me.

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mangas neither looked like mangas of these days, and as i said look at snow queen and then the other two i showed.

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#23 PernicioEnigma
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Damn, that animation is pretty good, especially considering it was made in 1957.
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#24 soulless4now
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I wouldn't call that anime...

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#25 amirzaim
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The Soviets claimed that they did invented the anime before the japanese do...damn pretty good classic animations, but nowadays, most animes seems towards to the adult ones...
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#26 parkurtommo
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That shows no resemblance whatsoever!!!

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#27 gameguy6700
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Whoa, the animation is so smooth in those clips. :oHexagon_777
If you look at full length animated movies with large budgets they usually do have much better animation quality than anything you see on TV. This is especially true for older animated movies/shorts when animation was insanely popular thanks to the fact that it was (with a few exceptions) the only color movies around. Look at old Disney movies as well as shorts like Looney Tunes. The animation quality is through the roof. Meanwhile TV cartoons have much lower budgets and since animation is really expensive to produce studios will try to cheap out on it as much as possible. Anime in particular is notorious for doing that, although over the past 10 years Western animation has become even worse thanks to the new trend of "animating" in flash.
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#28 HFkami
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That shows no resemblance whatsoever!!!

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but the other two do for you????

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#29 coolbeans90
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I, too, love me some good ol' McCarthyism for breakfast.

Only commie bastards could create that depraved "art".

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#30 Rickettsia
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Are you joking, did yOu post this because u wanted to discuss about something because I don't see the anime style in this. This animation is more Disney like than anything else.
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#31 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Whoa, the animation is so smooth in those clips. :ogameguy6700
If you look at full length animated movies with large budgets they usually do have much better animation quality than anything you see on TV. This is especially true for older animated movies/shorts when animation was insanely popular thanks to the fact that it was (with a few exceptions) the only color movies around. Look at old Disney movies as well as shorts like Looney Tunes. The animation quality is through the roof. Meanwhile TV cartoons have much lower budgets and since animation is really expensive to produce studios will try to cheap out on it as much as possible. Anime in particular is notorious for doing that, although over the past 10 years Western animation has become even worse thanks to the new trend of "animating" in flash.

True, but...this stuff is from the 1950s! It looks so good and smooth that I am reminded of some anime movies that made it into cinemas.
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#32 Johnny_Rock
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first of all i am not crazy its really the truth

the first cartoon with animelike character proportions was the russian film the snow queen. Of course its not for every character just for the children main characters but if anything in the past looked like animes like in these days then it was this.



All what japanese had at the time was this and that which came all later since the snow queen came in 1957. The only animated japanese cartoon who came before was Momotaro which only had animals and its black and white. Very sad Osamu Tezuka gets all the fame even if mother russia scored first.

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Sure. And Eskimo's invented the taco.

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#33 Victorious_Fize
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Lies, too fluid.
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#34 Minishdriveby
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The 1917 Japanese movie could pass as a modern day anime to me....
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#35 therancors
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Doesn't look like any anime to me.
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#36 foxhound_fox
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Yes, because all anime shares the same character proportions and has nothing to do with the source of the media.