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this has been a huge argument amongst me and my friends help me solve it

I love spidey but cole would win

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COLE MCGRATH FROM INFAMOUS!

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No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.
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No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.mattykovax
yeah CUZ ITS WRITTEN IN THE COMICS FOR SPIDEY TO WIN!

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#4 samuraiguns
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No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.mattykovax
lol, so cliche.
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.irockandroll

yeah CUZ ITS WRITTEN IN THE COMICS FOR SPIDEY TO WIN!

I still think he would win. Its kind of like fighting Electro right?
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#6 irockandroll
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while i respect your input, electro has never done the badass things cole has done and cole is stronger than electro

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#7 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.mattykovax

yeah CUZ ITS WRITTEN IN THE COMICS FOR SPIDEY TO WIN!

I still think he would win. Its kind of like fighting Electro right?

only thing Cole is less experienced.
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="irockandroll"] yeah CUZ ITS WRITTEN IN THE COMICS FOR SPIDEY TO WIN!

samuraiguns

I still think he would win. Its kind of like fighting Electro right?

only thing Cole is less experienced.

not when hes fully upgraded and has the ray sphere on his side hes really expierienced at that point

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#9 mattykovax
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while i respect your input, electro has never done the badass things cole has done and cole is stronger than electro

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You do realize spidey is so strong that even when fighting other superhumans he pulls his punches so he does not decapitate people? It takes someone with the power of the hulk for spidey to be able to hit with all his strength and not accomplish anything. Plus he is so experienced they have had to depower him to keep him fighting the characters he does. Once he beat the sinister six with no powers at all just off his experience alone.
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#10 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]I still think he would win. Its kind of like fighting Electro right?irockandroll

only thing Cole is less experienced.

not when hes fully upgraded and has the ray sphere on his side hes really expierienced at that point

less experienced, Electro has been spidey's nemesis for years.
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[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

while i respect your input, electro has never done the badass things cole has done and cole is stronger than electro

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You do realize spidey is so strong that even when fighting other superhumans he pulls his punches so he does not decapitate people? It takes someone with the power of the hulk for spidey to be able to hit with all his strength and not accomplish anything. Plus he is so experienced they have had to depower him to keep him fighting the characters he does. Once he beat the sinister six with no powers at all just off his experience alone.

really hes that strong? cuz last time i read my huge ass encyclopedia and comic books that wasnt a fact. and even if that was true spidey couldnt even get close enough to cole to decpitate him

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[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="irockandroll"]

while i respect your input, electro has never done the badass things cole has done and cole is stronger than electro

You do realize spidey is so strong that even when fighting other superhumans he pulls his punches so he does not decapitate people? It takes someone with the power of the hulk for spidey to be able to hit with all his strength and not accomplish anything. Plus he is so experienced they have had to depower him to keep him fighting the characters he does. Once he beat the sinister six with no powers at all just off his experience alone.

really hes that strong? cuz last time i read my huge ass encyclopedia and comic books that wasnt a fact

Yeah he really is that strong. As I have said they have depowered him off and on over the years,but he is actually one of the stronger characters. On another note I wish there were more people to debate this,you made one of the most interesting threads of the night compared to the 5000 favorite instrument player threads.
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[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]You do realize spidey is so strong that even when fighting other superhumans he pulls his punches so he does not decapitate people? It takes someone with the power of the hulk for spidey to be able to hit with all his strength and not accomplish anything. Plus he is so experienced they have had to depower him to keep him fighting the characters he does. Once he beat the sinister six with no powers at all just off his experience alone.mattykovax

really hes that strong? cuz last time i read my huge ass encyclopedia and comic books that wasnt a fact

Yeah he really is that strong. As I have said they have depowered him off and on over the years,but he is actually one of the stronger characters. On another note I wish there were more people to debate this,you made one of the most interesting threads of the night compared to the 5000 favorite instrument player threads.

keep debating it with me so it will be on tomorrow

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Off the marvel website. Peter can cling to most surfaces, has superhuman strength (able to lift 10 tons optimally) and is roughly 15 times more agile than a regular human. The combination of his acrobatic leaps and web-slinging enables him to travel rapidly from place to place. His spider-sense provides an early warning detection system linked with his superhuman kinesthetics, enabling him the ability to evade most any injury, provided he doesn't cognitively override the autonomic reflexes. Ten Tons optimally,how hard you think he punches?
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Spidey Vs Electro

There is that easier

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#16 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

Sppidey Vs Electro

There is that easier

:lol: thats what I said.
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#17 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

Sppidey Vs Electro

There is that easier

mattykovax

:lol: thats what I said.

I am sorry, I only read the OP.

Bad forum etiquett on my part.

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you prove a good point, however, thor can easily lift ten tons and neiher he nor spiderman have anything written about them pulling punches

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you prove a good point, however, thor can easily lift ten tons and neiher he nor spiderman have anything written about them pulling punches

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In the really old books they did. In the very early issues while still in high school peter boxed Flash Thompson and even pulling his punch he knocked him right out the ring,and from that point on he practiced how to naturally pull his punches without thinking about it so he would not kill someone.
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spidey VS electro, spidey wins because like you siad spidey stops at nothing to make sure justice is served because in the comics it i written for him to beat electro. cole is more powerful than electro though

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you prove a good point, however, thor can easily lift ten tons and neiher he nor spiderman have anything written about them pulling punches

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Directly from Marvel.wikia.com

Superhuman Strength:Spider-Man possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift approximately 10 tons. Spider-Man's physical strength is sufficient to lift and throw objects as heavy such as a semi truck with ease. He must also pull his punches and kicks unless fighting someone of similar or greater physical durability. Otherwise, his blows would prove fatal to a normal human being. He has demonstrated that he strong enough enable him to knock out people with normal durability with as little as a tap to the head. Also during the Secret Invasion, Spider-man was shown to able to knock a Tyrannosaurus Rex into unconsciousness in one punch. Spider-Man's physical strength also extends into his legs, enabling him to be able to jump to a height of several stories in a single bound. Spiderman demonstatred this when he leapt over 30 ft vertically into the air when he first leapt out of the way of an oncoming car ,it should also be noted that this while while he first discovered his powers as a teenager and while they hadn't developed to that of his prime .

and Electro can do what Cole does....I do not know the extent of Cole's power. I jsut know most of them.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Maxwell_Dillon_(Earth-616)

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[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

you prove a good point, however, thor can easily lift ten tons and neiher he nor spiderman have anything written about them pulling punches

mattykovax

In the really old books they did. In the very early issues while still in high school peter boxed Flash Thompson and even pulling his punch he knocked him right out the ring,and from that point on he practiced how to naturally pull his punches without thinking about it so he would not kill someone.

i only read classics my friend :D you prove a good point but punching hard doesn't necesarily mean he would decapitate the person. spidey uses alot of knockback in his attacks. it isnt brutish when he hits as much as it is just shooting his enemy across the room

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lets keep this poll going. we need more people to debate

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#24 clayron
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lets keep this poll going. we need more people to debate

irockandroll

I love Spidey.

My bias make me vote for him.

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#25 irockandroll
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

lets keep this poll going. we need more people to debate

I love Spidey.

My bias make me vote for him.

oh dont get me wrong i love him alot but realistically cole would win is all im saying
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

lets keep this poll going. we need more people to debate

I love Spidey.

My bias make me vote for him.

did you vote yet?
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#27 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

lets keep this poll going. we need more people to debate

I love Spidey.

My bias make me vote for him.

That and the massive amount of marvel nerdism some of us express,look what happened with the kratos hulk thread. :lol:
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#28 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

lets keep this poll going. we need more people to debate

irockandroll

I love Spidey.

My bias make me vote for him.

oh dont get me wrong i love him alot but realistically cole would win is all im saying

Oh No.

Spidey would thoroughly violate Cole.

He has experience handling over-powered electricity based enemies i.e. Electro, and he is no light-weight. Did you read the wiki. His powers are similar to Cole's, except that he can actually become electricity

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I'm gonna say Spiderman, partly because I don't know what Cole you're talking about. (Although I assume you're talking about the dude from InFamous)

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#30 mattykovax
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I'm gonna say Spiderman, partly because I don't know what Cole you're talking about. (Although I assume you're talking about the dude from InFamous)

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Yes,and he has electricity based powers.
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[QUOTE="irockandroll"][QUOTE="clayron"]

I love Spidey.

My bias make me vote for him.

clayron

oh dont get me wrong i love him alot but realistically cole would win is all im saying

Oh No.

Spidey would thoroughly violate Cole.

He has experience handling over-powered electricity based enemies i.e. Electro, and he is no light-weight. Did you read the wiki. His powers are similar to Cole's, except that he can actually become electricity

i know alot about spidey ALOT but heres my game plan for the fight *spidey starts out with the advantage on top of a building launching a barage of web balls at cole. cole puts up an electric shield and turns the damage into electric energy making him even more powerful. spidey learns it isnt working and webzips to cole, but as he shoots has fast speeds thru the air at cole ready to kill him, a lightning storm comes out from above and thousands of volts shoot thru spideys veins leaving him at least brutally wounded if not dead. lets say hes wounded: as he struggle to even stand spidey is resilient to kill cole. cole walks up to spiderman and sends him into the water with a shockwave, after spidey i in the water cole shoots a bolt into the water, zapping spidey to his demise*

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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"] oh dont get me wrong i love him alot but realistically cole would win is all im sayingirockandroll

Oh No.

Spidey would thoroughly violate Cole.

He has experience handling over-powered electricity based enemies i.e. Electro, and he is no light-weight. Did you read the wiki. His powers are similar to Cole's, except that he can actually become electricity

i know alot about spidey ALOT but heres my game plan for the fight *spidey starts out with the advantage on top of a building launching a barage of web balls at cole. cole puts up an electric shield and turns the damage into electric energy making him even more powerful. spidey learns it isnt working and webzips to cole, but as he shoots has fast speeds thru the air at cole ready to kill him, a lightning storm comes out from above and thousands of volts shoot thru spideys veins leaving him at least brutally wounded if not dead. lets say hes wounded: as he struggle to even stand spidey is resilient to kill cole. cole walks up to spiderman and sends him into the water with a shockwave, after spidey i in the water cole shoots a bolt into the water, zapping spidey to his demise*

That makes sense.

But Spider man spider-sense is ridiculous. As soon a Cole readied to strike with the lightning storm, which I believe strikes in random spots in and around Cole, Spidey autonomic reflexes would take over dodging the bolts and navigating him closert to Cole wherein he places a kick right on Cole's chin rendering him unconscious, or dead.

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[QUOTE="clayron"]

Oh No.

Spidey would thoroughly violate Cole.

He has experience handling over-powered electricity based enemies i.e. Electro, and he is no light-weight. Did you read the wiki. His powers are similar to Cole's, except that he can actually become electricity

clayron

i know alot about spidey ALOT but heres my game plan for the fight *spidey starts out with the advantage on top of a building launching a barage of web balls at cole. cole puts up an electric shield and turns the damage into electric energy making him even more powerful. spidey learns it isnt working and webzips to cole, but as he shoots has fast speeds thru the air at cole ready to kill him, a lightning storm comes out from above and thousands of volts shoot thru spideys veins leaving him at least brutally wounded if not dead. lets say hes wounded: as he struggle to even stand spidey is resilient to kill cole. cole walks up to spiderman and sends him into the water with a shockwave, after spidey i in the water cole shoots a bolt into the water, zapping spidey to his demise*

That makes sense.

But Spider man spider-sense is ridiculous. As soon a Cole readied to strike with the lightning storm, which I believe strikes in random spots in and around Cole, Spidey autonomic reflexes would take over dodging the bolts and navigating him closert to Cole wherein he places a kick right on Cole's chin rendering him unconscious, or dead.

thats not true the lightning strike takes place where you guide it and right in front of himand since spidey is so fast that would not be a problem as spidey would be right in front of him by the time it activated

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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]i know alot about spidey ALOT but heres my game plan for the fight *spidey starts out with the advantage on top of a building launching a barage of web balls at cole. cole puts up an electric shield and turns the damage into electric energy making him even more powerful. spidey learns it isnt working and webzips to cole, but as he shoots has fast speeds thru the air at cole ready to kill him, a lightning storm comes out from above and thousands of volts shoot thru spideys veins leaving him at least brutally wounded if not dead. lets say hes wounded: as he struggle to even stand spidey is resilient to kill cole. cole walks up to spiderman and sends him into the water with a shockwave, after spidey i in the water cole shoots a bolt into the water, zapping spidey to his demise*

irockandroll

That makes sense.

But Spider man spider-sense is ridiculous. As soon a Cole readied to strike with the lightning storm, which I believe strikes in random spots in and around Cole, Spidey autonomic reflexes would take over dodging the bolts and navigating him closert to Cole wherein he places a kick right on Cole's chin rendering him unconscious, or dead.

thats not true the lightning strike takes place where you guide it and right in front of himand since spidey is so fast that would not be a problem as spidey would be right in front of him by the time it activated

Who says Spidey would go full frontal assualt? That would be suicide, and Spidey is no idiot.

Spider is a stealth wizard....Cole would not even see it coming O_O

Judie Chop!! Cole goes down.

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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]

That makes sense.

But Spider man spider-sense is ridiculous. As soon a Cole readied to strike with the lightning storm, which I believe strikes in random spots in and around Cole, Spidey autonomic reflexes would take over dodging the bolts and navigating him closert to Cole wherein he places a kick right on Cole's chin rendering him unconscious, or dead.

thats not true the lightning strike takes place where you guide it and right in front of himand since spidey is so fast that would not be a problem as spidey would be right in front of him by the time it activated

Who says Spidey would go full frontal assualt? That would be suicide, and Spidey is no idiot.

Spider is a stealth wizard....Cole would not even see it coming O_O

Judie Chop!! Cole goes down.

cole is no idiot and can naturally track body energy as well as any other kind. so lets say spidey takes a stealthy approach. cole can track him and unleashes a storm or any other ability on spiderman
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clayron your a cool dude. how do i track you if yor account is private?

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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"]thats not true the lightning strike takes place where you guide it and right in front of himand since spidey is so fast that would not be a problem as spidey would be right in front of him by the time it activated

irockandroll

Who says Spidey would go full frontal assualt? That would be suicide, and Spidey is no idiot.

Spider is a stealth wizard....Cole would not even see it coming O_O

Judie Chop!! Cole goes down.

cole is no idiot and can naturally track body energy as well as any other kind. so lets say spidey takes a stealthy approach. cole can track him and unleashes a storm or any other ability on spiderman

Hmm....that does present a problem. But Electro can do the same, and Spidey has beat him. However, Cole need electricity correct?

Let him run out of juice. However, in Spidey's back yard that would prove almost impossible.

If he is like Electro, then water is his weakness. Am I right?

The combination of his reliance of an external power supply, and afinity to water and Spidey tactical knowledge will lead to Cole's demise. I just do not know how.

I google Cole. Apparently, he can not defeat a chain link fence. Spidey has an idea.

W

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#39 clayron
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clayron your a cool dude. how do i track you if yor account is private?

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I have no idea. I will make it so you can.

You sir, are officially tracked.

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[QUOTE="irockandroll"][QUOTE="clayron"]

Who says Spidey would go full frontal assualt? That would be suicide, and Spidey is no idiot.

Spider is a stealth wizard....Cole would not even see it coming O_O

Judie Chop!! Cole goes down.

clayron

cole is no idiot and can naturally track body energy as well as any other kind. so lets say spidey takes a stealthy approach. cole can track him and unleashes a storm or any other ability on spiderman

Hmm....that does present a problem. But Electro can do the same, and Spidey has beat him. However, Cole need electricity correct?

Let him run out of juice. However, in Spidey's back yard that would prove almost impossible.

If he is like Electro, then water is his weakness. Am I right?

The combination of his reliance of an external power supply, and afinity to water and Spidey tactical knowledge will lead to Cole's defense.

I google Cole. Apparently, he can not defeat a chain link fence. Spidey has an idea.

W

cole can resist water to an extent probably 2 or 3 buckets however spidey could knock him into a lake. but cole wouldnt let spidey get this close. as far as the fence thing goes, thats just a flaw in the game lol in real life he could knck it over no prob

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#41 irockandroll
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[QUOTE="irockandroll"][QUOTE="clayron"]

Who says Spidey would go full frontal assualt? That would be suicide, and Spidey is no idiot.

Spider is a stealth wizard....Cole would not even see it coming O_O

Judie Chop!! Cole goes down.

clayron

cole is no idiot and can naturally track body energy as well as any other kind. so lets say spidey takes a stealthy approach. cole can track him and unleashes a storm or any other ability on spiderman

Hmm....that does present a problem. But Electro can do the same, and Spidey has beat him. However, Cole need electricity correct?

Let him run out of juice. However, in Spidey's back yard that would prove almost impossible.

If he is like Electro, then water is his weakness. Am I right?

The combination of his reliance of an external power supply, and afinity to water and Spidey tactical knowledge will lead to Cole's demise. I just do not know how.

I google Cole. Apparently, he can not defeat a chain link fence. Spidey has an idea.

W

cole by this point in the game can go for huge periods of time without electricity and small portions of water (2-3 buckets aproximately) would only make him lethal to touch

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#42 tabishsultan
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SPIDERMAN wins my vote.
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#43 irockandroll
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SPIDERMAN wins my vote.tabishsultan
you dont have an argument to support this

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#44 omfg_its_dally
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No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.mattykovax
One word: Batman.
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#45 Kikouken
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ehh, Cole. That's the guy from inFamous right? I don't like him. So Spiderman will win.
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#46 irockandroll
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.omfg_its_dally
One word: Batman.

DO NOT BRING DC INTO THIS GOOD CONVERSATION PLEASE we are trying to keep it Marvel. plus batman has nothing on either of them

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#47 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="irockandroll"] cole is no idiot and can naturally track body energy as well as any other kind. so lets say spidey takes a stealthy approach. cole can track him and unleashes a storm or any other ability on spidermanirockandroll

Hmm....that does present a problem. But Electro can do the same, and Spidey has beat him. However, Cole need electricity correct?

Let him run out of juice. However, in Spidey's back yard that would prove almost impossible.

If he is like Electro, then water is his weakness. Am I right?

The combination of his reliance of an external power supply, and afinity to water and Spidey tactical knowledge will lead to Cole's demise. I just do not know how.

I google Cole. Apparently, he can not defeat a chain link fence. Spidey has an idea.

W

cole by this point in the game can go for huge periods of time without electricity and small portions of water (2-3 buckets aproximately) would only make him lethal to touch

Spidey would lose in a rush down, and he would know that. He always plays keep away from projectile-based enemies.

He would need to keep Cole on the offensive (using energy), since hitting Spidey from a distance would be almost impossible.

Spidey would need to set a trap. Only problem is I do not know what type of trap.

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#48 irockandroll
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ehh, Cole. That's the guy from inFamous right? I don't like him. So Spiderman will win.Kikouken
the fact that you dont like him has nothing to do with his power tho

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#49 clayron
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.omfg_its_dally
One word: Batman.

Captain America would own that noob! :P

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#50 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]No one beats spidey. No one. He will always find a way. For uncle ben and aunt may.omfg_its_dally
One word: Batman.

Not the batman crew. Batman would win only because he would find out spidey is parker and blackmail him. But toe to toe Spidey would rock the bats world. And thanks to teh spidey sense most of the bats tricks would not work on peter.