College is a Rip Off.. agree or not?

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#101 musicalmac  Moderator
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You will get out of college what you put into college. That's not to say there aren't some improvements we could make to the system, but it's certainly possible to succeed.
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#102 rastotm
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To a certain degree, I would enjoy the aspect of paying for what I need instead of wasting countless hours on stuff I understood before I applied. Secondly there are these endless repetitions which are quite demotivating. Furthermore I don't need teachers reading a book for me, I'd rather pay my dad for things like that. But the worst of all is the excessive prices on books and rehashes with hardly any new information.

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#103 buccomatic
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V122ICNS8_0&feature=share

I agree 90% of it, some college may help at some point.. as far as I know most super rich people never had to go to college.

Dogswithguns

pay 150k for a college education just so you can get your foot in the door of an interview. that interview might land you a job which has a set and fixed wage under a demanding boss that berates you and forces you into unethical compromises all your life.

OR

use that 150k and start your own businessand live life on your own terms, free to do what you want and when you want and have most anything you want and get out of life what you put into it.

which sounds better to you??

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#104 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="Dogswithguns"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V122ICNS8_0&feature=share

I agree 90% of it, some college may help at some point.. as far as I know most super rich people never had to go to college.

buccomatic

i know a few people that are millionaires and they were the ones who were always skipping school and smoking weed.they worked hard, made their own companies and became their own employer / boss while the ones who went to college are stuck in a fixed position which they studied for and are still paying off their loan.

not saying there's no need for college, it is definitely good for a nation to have a lot of well educaged people, just so long as what they are learning isn't complete BS like they are being taught in schools today.

Please enlighten me to what is BS being taught in schools today. I'm seapking as the member of two separate curriculum committees. I also want to know what students want to learn.

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#105 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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My college education has cost about $26,000. That will pay itself off rather quickly, unless of course, I'm unable to find a job after I graduate come May.
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#106 Bloodseeker23
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You're only ripping yourself from the College experience if all you do is party and smoke weed. If you actually put effort and time you will get something out of it, not just a piece of paper, but a lifetime education that will help you in the future.
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#107 sexyweapons
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Depends on what collage and what course

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#108 pygmahia5
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its a business
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#109 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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Ehhh, it's not completely useless like some people like to say. Only if you make it so (meaning your degree is less technical yet you're going massively into debt over it, or you just don't give a f*ck and it shows). There's some jobs out there where it's UNDERSTANDABLE that you need an advanced degree. There's also a bunch of resources you can utilize in the schools to make sure that you get experience and are networking too. I will say that school has gotten very very expensive though, and it's been during these past few years that it has been harder than before to find a job (with or without a degree). It doesn't mean you can't get by without one, but those people are usually pretty extraordinary.

As with most things, you just need to find a nice balance.

Edit: I didn't watch that video, btw. Just seemingly going by context.

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#110 k2theswiss
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i find high school is more of a rip off. Anyways all depends what your doing.
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#111 Hexagon_777
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Read through this thread, and I am frightened.
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#112 TwistedShade
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Read through this thread, and I am frightened.Hexagon_777
While I haven't gone through college yet,(Just starting it later in the fall) I've gathered that so long as you want a job that needs a degree, and so long as you pursue a good degree in demand it'll balance out in the end.

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#113 CKYguy25
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not really if you can work to completely everything you need to do and graduate

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#114 Toxic-Seahorse
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Colleges are definitely charging too much to attend. The cost is ridiculous and when you consider the ridiculous price of books and how some classes are just professors reading to you from the book, it's a rip off. I can read the book myself, why am I paying $1000 for the class? Colleges know that degrees help you make more money, they use that along with the fact that the government will give anyone a student loan to hike up the cost of college artificially to make as much money as they can. Tuition always goes up, never down.
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#115 leviathan91
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i find high school is more of a rip off. Anyways all depends what your doing.k2theswiss

Back then you could get by in life with just a high school diploma but now, I agree that the diploma itself is pretty useless (and a joke) unless you want to join the military.

A college education is useful and beneficial if you know what to do. The same goes for high school. It's what you do during those years that matters.

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#116 Abbeten
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Colleges are definitely charging too much to attend. The cost is ridiculous and when you consider the ridiculous price of books and how some classes are just professors reading to you from the book, it's a rip off. I can read the book myself, why am I paying $1000 for the class? Colleges know that degrees help you make more money, they use that along with the fact that the government will give anyone a student loan to hike up the cost of college artificially to make as much money as they can. Tuition always goes up, never down.Toxic-Seahorse
You're really paying that money for the credentials. Also tuition has risen in recent years since demand for college education has exploded.
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#117 Nibroc420
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How else will you make money? Any job that offers $50,000+ requires a college degree. You also need to get a useful degree. YoshiYogurt
trades can easily make 70,000 a year, with like 6 months of vocational school and some apprenticing... That's maybe $15,000 in school, and 4 years of learning on the job and being paid. Problem is, the people in that video had degrees in arts and literature...
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#118 Shadow_Fighter
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I wouldn't say college is a rip off but the problem is there are a decent amount of people in college who probably shouldn't be there. Those going to be engineers, doctors, scientist and the like need to go to college. Now those going for stuff like art, literature, english and the like probably should really consider if they need to be in college or not.

As for college book stores, those are a complete racketerring scheme.

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#119 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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That's what she gets for studying human development instead of mechanical engineering or medicine.
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#120 lundy86_4
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Rip off? Yes.

Necessary in this day and age? Hell yes.

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I'm looking to join a police force in Canada, and even though they only require a high school diploma, the amount of people with degrees will make it ridiculously hard to compete.

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#121 MistressMinako
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It is entirely up to you. Really, it is. You have to handle your own degree, it isn't the degree's fault that the person isn't getting a job. Degrees are good for more than one specific job. Broaden your options a bit. Someone's sig just reminded me of something. Look at Alison Brie. She has a bachelors in theater (which people claim is worthless) and look at her now. Sure, she could have had connections but that degree alone could have given her the boost. She already knew the dos and don'ts of being an actress and probably knew that there's a possibility that she wouldn't make it big. I bet she had tons of side jobs before her TV career and Community. If you really attempt to look for alternatives to your field instead of just focusing on one then maybe people will get somewhere in the door.
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#122 JoGoSo
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It depends but overall I don't view college as the primary option for youths to get to middle class status.

It does help in gaining learning ability, but probably not worth the money just to learn that.