Concerning same-sex marriage.

Why is this even an issue? Love is love, no matter what gender. If a male wants to marry another male, that's their life and their decision. Who are we to deny them the love they've found in one another?edisni_edistuo

I really don't know why this thread was started but I am just fine with gay marriage.

A biological family isn't necessarily an imperative of marriage. There isn't a law somewhere saying; Married people MUST have a baby which is related by blood and MUST be a family. Marriage is strictly, prima facie, a business transaction to share specific rights between the two. Marriage does not hollistically equal family. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="edisni_edistuo"]Why is this even an issue? Love is love, no matter what gender. If a male wants to marry another male, that's their life and their decision. Who are we to deny them the love they've found in one another?Vandalvideo

Yes, it can cause some problems. But this is an issue that won't go away. This is just one more change the United States isn't ready for, just like the civil rights movement. Eventually, we will gradually be open enough to the idea that it will be allowed. It just seems to be taking longer than usual :PManiacc1

You have to unmarry marriage from the emotional aspects that people have irresponsibly applied to it. You have to look at the facts of what marriage actually is. Marriage, at face value, is strictly a business transaction which doesn't expressly state that one must have sex with their partner or establish a 'proper family' with their partner.Vandalvideo

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Unfortunately, intolerance has always been (to most people) an important part to establish their own position in society. The "mob" will always look for something or someone to discriminate, because by creating boundaries between the "self" / the "established" and "the "other" people create their own identites in which they feel secure and snuggly. Homophobia is after all only one sort of discrimination in a long line of discriminations in human history, of which some are still going on. Women, Jews, Afro-Americans, Indians, Disabled people .. sadly, the list goes on.

Homosexuality is not unnatural (there are homosexual animals)and it is not the same as siblings or cousings (1st, 2nd grade) marrying because the reason why they are not allowed to be married is the risk of bearing a disabled child. (BTW, only sexual intercourse between siblings and cousins is illegal, nothing else.So, they can live together, kiss and have sex but no coitus)

Everyone who discriminates homosexuals is basically on the same level as a fascist in the Third Reich, an uneducated, selfish simpleton.

River

SegaGenesisfan

Your showwing a lot of flawed thinking in the wholepost, like comparing homosexuals to animals... Your suggesting that white people are bad, your descriminating. Heck we descriminate against illegal immigrants all the time, is it bad, not exactly, so the term descrimination is so cliche. It seems like your the one who wants to feel secure and snuggly. And I am not afraid of homosexuals, if anything they are afraid of me (ok I got that from Master Chief sucks at Halo). Well intermarraying is unnatural because it does not produce good children, homosexuality is unnatural because it does not bear children in a marriage setting. Is that not the poitn of marriage? And dont make the arguement that you can have kids without being married, because that has so many holes in it. Most people who have kids before marriage do it out of stupidity. Marriage is how we organise family life, without it we have anarchy, just like what the animal kingdom is.

See the slippery slop fallacy has been overturned, now someone is sayying "but why cant young people have sex?" And it is not oppresion that gay marriage is illegal for the most part, they can still get jobs just like anyone else. Most peoples morals are that homosexuality is wrong, mainly because it also has a wide range of perverted sex acts, having sex with anyone, spreading disease.

So if anything, maybe same sex marriage is not really bad, maybe it will control all the random sex that produces disease. I mean come on people, for someone to be in the pornography business, they have to be homosexual...

The fact that it's an issue disgusts me.

The fact that it's an issue disgusts me.

MasterC5

Same here, makes me want to take one of those idiots who likes to point at Obama and say "Look how far we've come!" and punch them in the face. We're the same closed minded savage society we've always been, we've just found a new target.

...without it we have anarchy, just like what the animal kingdom is.SegaGenesisfan

gay marriage is ridiculous in the first place. it doesnt make any sense(to me). why would a gay person want to get married? its a religious thing and being gay doesnt exactly fit into any religion...at all.

but it should definitely be legal and the fact that we only havea few statesthat allow it is sick.

I simply did not bother to talk about straight sleeping around, but homosexuality = sleeping around no matter how you look at it. Dude, even my human biology book has a part on homosexuality and diseases. Yes straight people have the same disease, guess how they got it? I dont think having sex with random people is ok either way, I did imply that sleeping with random people is wrong did I not? The fact is homosexuals are far more likely to have diseases, and people are using speudo science to say it is natural... Well even so, I personally would not want to have to worry about that. Difference here is you didnt directly address my point, you changed the subject if anything. Yes Africa has the supstition that sex solves the problem, but I never mentioned that, talk about flawed thinking, your not addressing my points. A non sequiter.

I simply did not bother to talk about straight sleeping around, but homosexuality = sleeping around no matter how you look at it. Dude, even my human biology book has a part on homosexuality and diseases. Yes straight people have the same disease, guess how they got it? I dont think having sex with random people is ok either way, I did imply that sleeping with random people is wrong did I not? The fact is homosexuals are far more likely to have diseases, and people are using speudo science to say it is natural... Well even so, I personally would not want to have to worry about that. Difference here is you didnt directly address my point, you changed the subject if anything. Yes Africa has the supstition that sex solves the problem, but I never mentioned that, talk about flawed thinking, your not addressing my points. A non sequiter.SegaGenesisfan

Im fine with any 2 CONSENTING people to get married via Civil union/marriage . Just don't force a church to marry people if they don't want to marry them

I cannot believe that this is even a goddamn issue. If someone wants to marry, whoever it may be, just **** let them. As long as its consensual and the groom/bride is of age. Thats it. If you don't approve of gay marriage, you are a **** fascist.

xxDustmanxx

So in your opinion, I'm a fascist.

Im fine with any 2 CONSENTING people to get married via Civil union/marriage . Just don't force a church to marry people if they don't want to marry them

Epic__Lulz

Wrong! If same-sex marriage was legalized: Pastors could be sued/arrested for refusing to marry homosexuals, anyone could be arrested for "hate speech" if they voiced their opinion on the issue, etc. I say that we need a new system of uniting lovers. Some complain about "civil unions" so I say that we change it so that you get all the same rights with a civil union as a marriage. That way, homosexuals could have the same legal rights as others without christians having to participate in it.Head_of_games

church's don't have to marry homosexuals if they don't want to.

It shouldn't even be an issue. I'm just glad to see that it has been legalized in two states recently and that it's now being pushed for in New York.