Conservatives shouldn't settle for McCain

I'm always asked the same question when I point out the idiocy of Barry in my posts, "Why don't you ever talk about McCain?" I think I'm not alone when I say McCain isn't my choice either. The guy continues to turn his back on Conservatives and Libertarians time and time again. Look at the examples:

He's falling for the hype of global warming. Maybe it's real, maybe it's not but the science isn't 100% in on it at the moment.

He's willing to talk about socialist healthcare. Health insurance is a privilege, not a right. It's not in the Bill of Rights, nor should it ever be. Think about it; our incompetant Government in charge of healthcare? No thanks.

McCain/Feingold. McCain/Kennedy. McCain/Liberman. I can go on and on and on.

**** this. I'm voting for Bob Barr.8)

yeah hes lame

god if only Colbert was able to run

Why is global warming a non-conservative issue? Surely you can be a conservative who is up for reducing carbon? :? I also honestly dont think it makes any sense at all to say "how dare he be pro-environment... he's turned his back on us!"

I mean you can think it's all a bunch of crap, sure, but how does someone who thinks it isn't affect you exactly?

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

Why is global warming a non-conservative issue? Surely you can be a conservative who is up for reducing carbon? :? I also honestly dont think it makes any sense at all to say "how dare he be pro-environment... he's turned his back on us!"

I mean you can think it's all a bunch of crap, sure, but how does someone who thinks it isn't affect you exactly?

Ninja-Hippo

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

VendettaRed07

I also dont understand how he feels not believing in global warming is the republican/conservative way to be. Look at Arny. :?

yeah hes lame

god if only Colbert was able to run

VendettaRed07

And he would as a conservative?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Why is global warming a non-conservative issue? Surely you can be a conservative who is up for reducing carbon? :? I also honestly dont think it makes any sense at all to say "how dare he be pro-environment... he's turned his back on us!"

I mean you can think it's all a bunch of crap, sure, but how does someone who thinks it isn't affect you exactly?

DivergeUnify

Yeah they are. Seeing as one directly counters the other. :|

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Why is global warming a non-conservative issue? Surely you can be a conservative who is up for reducing carbon? :? I also honestly dont think it makes any sense at all to say "how dare he be pro-environment... he's turned his back on us!"

I mean you can think it's all a bunch of crap, sure, but how does someone who thinks it isn't affect you exactly?

Ninja-Hippo

Yeah they are. Seeing as one directly counters the other. :|

If I throw a wrapper on the ground, I'm polluting/loitering.

If I piss in a lake, that's considering polluting.

Global warming is a specific phrase related to greenhouse gases causing an increase in global temperature. They're not the same

McCain is the only conservative that could ever get elected at this point because of george bush, that is why i supported him for the nomination. He will actually listen to the democrats, that doesnt mean he's going to do everything they tell him however. He's still a conservative, and no doubt he will still have to pay his dues to the conservative party if he has any hopes of re-election after his first term.

He is the single only candidate that can beat the democrats, going against him as a conservative would quite literally be the best example of "Cutting off your nose to spite your face". Just like what republicans did in 06.

my problem with mccain, which is a problem i have had with every presidential candidate so far is that he has no economic background whatsoever. i think that at this point in history we need a president who knows oemthing about economicsJulesMclain

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

yeah hes lame

god if only Colbert was able to run

Ring_of_fire

And he would as a conservative?

no, i was just saying. They were just 2 seperate ideas

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

VendettaRed07

[QUOTE="JulesMclain"]my problem with mccain, which is a problem i have had with every presidential candidate so far is that he has no economic background whatsoever. i think that at this point in history we need a president who knows oemthing about economicsDivergeUnify

Romney can still be picked up as the VP, which would help McCain on the economic issue, but then he carries the baggage of the whole "Mormon Issue". Although, that could become an advantage if the democrats tried to use it against them.. Tough call...

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

DivergeUnify

nuclear energy is not the answer either

its a really bad idea

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

DivergeUnify

Agreed, me and every conservative i know gladly supports Nuclear Power and it is, indeed, a very viable replacement for oil in most area's.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="JulesMclain"]my problem with mccain, which is a problem i have had with every presidential candidate so far is that he has no economic background whatsoever. i think that at this point in history we need a president who knows oemthing about economicsTolwan

Romney can still be picked up as the VP, which would help McCain on the economic issue, but then he carries the baggage of the whole "Mormon Issue". Although, that could become an advantage if the democrats tried to use it against them.. Tough call...

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

VendettaRed07

nuclear energy is not the answer either

its a really bad idea

Most scientists disagree. It supplies more power than any other method and there are many waste recycling methods that exsist now and are being developed. And we'd certainly have plenty of spare money to spend on waste recycling research if we got ourselves off relying on oil.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

VendettaRed07

nuclear energy is not the answer either

its a really bad idea

What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?Chaos_HL21

He supports a gradual reduction of troops, with increased responsibility to fall upon the Iraqi security forces, which is what Gen. Petraeus already said may start happening as early as this fall. Violence against us in way down, and it's about time the Iraqis took more control over their security. Most us in the military are ready to stop babysitting them already.

What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?Chaos_HL21

McCain isn't the best candidate, but anyone's better than Hillary.Cube_of_MooN

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?jaydough

Misquote of the year...

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

wow, i just actually read what you posted, and wtf?

of course global warming is an issue.. the fact that its still debated is just sad, and i honestly dont see the conservitives doing anything about it, including getting off oil and using alternitive fuels.

VendettaRed07

nuclear energy is not the answer either

its a really bad idea

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?Tolwan

Misquote of the year...

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?jaydough

Misquote of the year...

To save you some time, he said he'd be willing to keep a small, non-combatant military presence in Iraq for as long as 100 years, similiar to what we have in South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc. etc., He said he'd only be willing to do that though if they werent getting shot or injured or killed. Not word for word, i think i said it out of order, but you get the idea. Probably a google search will get you what you're looking for.

well he's better than obamafanofazrienoch

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?jaydough

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?Tolwan

Misquote of the year...

To save you some time, he said he'd be willing to keep a small, non-combatant military presence in Iraq for as long as 100 years, similiar to what we have in South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc. etc., He said he'd only be willing to do that though if they werent getting shot or injured or killed. Not word for word, i think i said it out of order, but you get the idea. Probably a google search will get you what you're looking for.

[QUOTE="fanofazrienoch"]well he's better than obamajaydough

but nontheless, he would still be horrible in my book even if my pastor were his pastor. he has no experience and wants to retreat from the war and negotiate with the leaders of rogue states.

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?Tolwan

Misquote of the year...

You definitely got that right! I can't believe how many people think that's what he said. Lamestream media at work again. It meant a possible 100 year PRESENCE in Iraq, not 100 years of COMBAT. It's not anything new, we always maintain a presence in areas we fought. We've got bases in Japan and the war ended 63 years ago for crying out loud. Ditto with Germany.

At this point I'm voting for him to keep a democrat out of the white house.

This is going to be a depressing election for conservatives. Voting for Barr is like not voting at all anyways, he can't win, no chance in hell.

Urrrgh...

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="fanofazrienoch"]well he's better than obamafanofazrienoch

but nontheless, he would still be horrible in my book even if my pastor were his pastor. he has no experience Which is exactly why he was on The Time's top 100 list of most influencial people in the world 2 times. :) and wants to retreat from the war The war of which we do nothing but stand around and die. and negotiate with the leaders of rogue states.Hey, it's better than just barging in an bombing them.

At this point I'm voting for him to keep a democrat out of the white house.

This is going to be a depressing election for conservatives. Voting for Barr is like not voting at all anyways, he can't win, no chance in hell.

Urrrgh...

cametall

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]What is his views on Iraq. Does he support a full withdraw?MarineJcksn

Misquote of the year...

You definitely got that right! I can't believe how many people think that's what he said. Lamestream media at work again. It meant a possible 100 year PRESENCE in Iraq, not 100 years of COMBAT. It's not anything new, we always maintain a presence in areas we fought. We've got bases in Japan and the war ended 63 years ago for crying out loud. Ditto with Germany.

[QUOTE="fanofazrienoch"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="fanofazrienoch"]well he's better than obamajaydough

but nontheless, he would still be horrible in my book even if my pastor were his pastor. he has no experience Which is exactly why he was on The Time's top 100 list of most influencial people in the world 2 times. :) and wants to retreat from the war The war of which we do nothing but stand around and die. and negotiate with the leaders of rogue states.Hey, it's better than just barging in an bombing them.

[QUOTE="cametall"]

At this point I'm voting for him to keep a democrat out of the white house.

This is going to be a depressing election for conservatives. Voting for Barr is like not voting at all anyways, he can't win, no chance in hell.

Urrrgh...

jaydough

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="fanofazrienoch"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="fanofazrienoch"]well he's better than obamaDivergeUnify

but nontheless, he would still be horrible in my book even if my pastor were his pastor. he has no experience Which is exactly why he was on The Time's top 100 list of most influencial people in the world 2 times. :) and wants to retreat from the war The war of which we do nothing but stand around and die. and negotiate with the leaders of rogue states.Hey, it's better than just barging in an bombing them.

McCain is the only conservative that could ever get elected at this point because of george bush, that is why i supported him for the nomination. He will actually listen to the democrats, that doesnt mean he's going to do everything they tell him however. He's still a conservative, and no doubt he will still have to pay his dues to the conservative party if he has any hopes of re-election after his first term.

He is the single only candidate that can beat the democrats, going against him as a conservative would quite literally be the best example of "Cutting off your nose to spite your face". Just like what republicans did in 06.

Tolwan

You've got such great points on this. I'm just not convinced whatsoever that he'll get behind conservative values. Think about it, he got to where he is now largely without support of real conservatives. I think it's gonna boil down to who he chooses as his VP before I decide. I like Bobby Jindal a lot, but I don't think he's ready. Romney is a decent choice, but I'm not sure. All this scuttlebutt about maybe picking Huckabee...don't get me started on that guy.

I really don't know. I don't think McCain would twice about picking Joe Liberman. Think about it, both considered "mavericks" of their respective parties, both largely feel their party has done them wrong. It wouldn't suprise me at all if Mac did something so stupid. :?

Voting for Barr is like not voting at all anyways, he can't win, no chance in hell.

Urrrgh...

cametall

I'd withhold judgement until the General Election at least starts, when the rest of the Nation's voters are listening.