Cop kills two teenagers in car wreck.

I am not sure if this was posted before, if so I am sorry. Here is one of the links to the story and video and here is anotherThe second link gives more info, the first shows the video. When cops do things like this it makes me sick to my stomach, these are the bad ones who do not deserve to be a cop.

Wow you gotta look before you turn and see the cops coming right at you fast. That cop was running pretty fast with no lights or sirens though.

Wow you gotta look before you turn and see the cops coming right at you fast. That cop was running pretty fast with no lights or sirens though.

Flamecommando

We did not see eye to eye in the other thread but I will agree 100% here. The cops in the state do it aswell, speeding when there is no emergency. I don't see the point at all. That is something I could never see myself doing. Thankfully the guy is getting charged but it still will not bring them two back.GrandJury

Sucks. Not much to discuss here, clearly the cops were in the wrong. Interesting watch though. Sparks flew o:BiancaDK

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Sucks. Not much to discuss here, clearly the cops were in the wrong. Interesting watch though. Sparks flew o:GrandJury

At ease soldier, you don´t have to defend your thread to me. It´s good, made for an interesting watch. :3

The "sucks" was a reference to the tragedy of the incident, not the quality of your thread.

my cities cops do this a lot. At night if they get stopped a red light they just turn on there sirens and drive through then turn them off. It bothers me.

Funny how when a police car smashes into another car, it's the police's fault. Does anybody care to question the teens? Why were they out that late? Were they drunk? It's kind of hard to miss a speeding police cruiser (with headlights on) coming at you. There are laws that state the one must be under COMPLETE control of your vehicle and be compeltely aware of your surroundings. These teens clearly were not. If they stopped short, then all would be avoided. And I like how people get pissed at the cops because they were speeding and running the lights, as if you guys have never sped or run a red/yellow light. cpo335

I guess it would have been more acceptable if they teens were adults. No matter how you slice it the cop was the wrong one. I would love to see your reaction time to a cop car flying at you at 94 miles an hour. Oh and for the "Complete control" statement, how about the cop, where was HIS control, he is suppose to be up holding the law and stopping people from speeding, not doing what he did. He did not have complete control, he broke the law, he caused those to humans(Regardless of age) to die.

[QUOTE="cpo335"]Funny how when a police car smashes into another car, it's the police's fault. Does anybody care to question the teens? Why were they out that late? Were they drunk? It's kind of hard to miss a speeding police cruiser (with headlights on) coming at you. There are laws that state the one must be under COMPLETE control of your vehicle and be compeltely aware of your surroundings. These teens clearly were not. If they stopped short, then all would be avoided. And I like how people get pissed at the cops because they were speeding and running the lights, as if you guys have never sped or run a red/yellow light. GrandJury

EDIT: Wy did you edit your post, don't do that.

Why did you edit your post, to tell me to not edit mine. I just added a few words and broke up the paragraphs. The overall point here is he was speeding. He was not going anywhere, he was not on call so why did he fly through there at 94 miles an hour? If he had just kept at regular limit none of this would of happened. GrandJury

Ohhh Ok. So now ALL cops can break their own laws just to get home. Well that is nice to know. So what if it was you in that car or somebody you loved by slight chance, would you feel the same way? Oh it is ok that the cop was going 94 and caused harm, he was just trying to get home...GrandJury

I don't understand why you brought up the fact they were cops, these things happen quite often regardless of who it is.

With kids these days, more then likeley they have done the world a favor. I must admit when i'm driving I tend to get urges to steer off to just a tad, want to see what sort of face expression one of them makes as they bounce off the windscreen, gotta remember to snap a pic because that moment is priceless.

Oh yeah, and very sad news and all, wow Chicago town pizzas are pretty good for frozen.

[QUOTE="GrandJury"]Ohhh Ok. So now ALL cops can break their own laws just to get home. Well that is nice to know. So what if it was you in that car or somebody you loved by slight chance, would you feel the same way? Oh it is ok that the cop was going 94 and caused harm, he was just trying to get home...cpo335

Yeah it was bad that the one cop was going over 90 mph on city streets however at the same time even though his lights and sirens weren't blaring those teenagers weren't paying attention either. There were plenty of lights around to see any kind of vehicle coming down the road. Though don't get me wrong I don't think they deserved to die.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="GrandJury"]Ohhh Ok. So now ALL cops can break their own laws just to get home. Well that is nice to know. So what if it was you in that car or somebody you loved by slight chance, would you feel the same way? Oh it is ok that the cop was going 94 and caused harm, he was just trying to get home...horgen123

Oh and the police cruiser sped up, which means he accelerated.... which means the engine got very loud before the crash. Maybe the kids were listening to loud music, or just not paying attention AT ALL (like they whuld have been), but it's kind of hard to not hear a police cruiser's engine rev up when he's barrelling down a street (esp. since they have different engines or w/e than most cars). It's the teens' fault, they were doing somethign wrong (whether it be driving drunk, listening to loud music, or something) and we can just blame it on negligence. The officer neglected to follow the speed limit and the teens neglected to pay attention.

Patriotic guy huh? Either way he is getting charged for what he has done. The point at the end of the day is these cops REGARDLESS of who is on the road has no reason to be speeding at 94 miles an hour unless they are on call or after somone. Could the teens have payed more attention? Yes, but who is suppose to REALLY know what they are doing behind the wheel, the 19 year old teens or the trained police officer?GrandJury

Both are responsible to the same degree behind the wheel.

[Edit] but obviously cops have to do a little more. But what I mean is they both have to equally be alert.

Have you ever seen a car flying at you with their headlights flashing in your face? At night? with no one else on the road (except another cop coming from the same direction). My point is (since the patriotic guy doesn't seem to grasp it) is that people speed, regardless of who they are, and if the teenagers had payed attention then they would have stopped and avided the entire crash.

Oh and the police cruiser sped up, which means he accelerated.... which means the engine got very loud before the crash. Maybe the kids were listening to loud music, or just not paying attention AT ALL (like they whuld have been), but it's kind of hard to not hear a police cruiser's engine rev up when he's barrelling down a street (esp. since they have different engines or w/e than most cars). It's the teens' fault, they were doing somethign wrong (whether it be driving drunk, listening to loud music, or something) and we can just blame it on negligence. The officer neglected to follow the speed limit and the teens neglected to pay attention.

cpo335

Have you ever seen a car flying at you with their headlights flashing in your face? At night? with no one else on the road (except another cop coming from the same direction). My point is (since the patriotic guy doesn't seem to grasp it) is that people speed, regardless of who they are, and if the teenagers had payed attention then they would have stopped and avided the entire crash.

Oh and the police cruiser sped up, which means he accelerated.... which means the engine got very loud before the crash. Maybe the kids were listening to loud music, or just not paying attention AT ALL (like they whuld have been), but it's kind of hard to not hear a police cruiser's engine rev up when he's barrelling down a street (esp. since they have different engines or w/e than most cars). It's the teens' fault, they were doing somethign wrong (whether it be driving drunk, listening to loud music, or something) and we can just blame it on negligence. The officer neglected to follow the speed limit and the teens neglected to pay attention.

The police officer was in complete control the entire time, you can even see his taillights flash as he nears the other car.cpo335

Well, complete control if you omit the small detail of smashing into other cars going nearly 100mph, sure, i agree.

He most certainly did not cause those teens to die. It was their fault that they didn't see the speeding police car coming at them.cpo335

Who knows, maybe the teens were ignorant enough to actually believe that the police vehicle would slow down, as it is quit clear that the teens are intending on making a turn. The naivity of our youth these days.

Also, the light where the crash occured was flashing yellow, which means "use extra caution"cpo335

Fair point, as i see it - the police vehicle practiced this extra caution by not killing it´s passengers, whereas the teens are lacking in that department.

I´m done here, don´t really care to "do" your other comments or finish the final segment. Just my 5 cents. (:

I hate pigs. Useless and dangerous.wstfld

I hate pigs. Useless and dangerous. The police should require college degrees for all new recruits; a full 120 credits. We might be able to filter out some of these stupid slackers. Most cops are the kids that lazily got Cs in school or were too dumb to go to college. wstfld

[QUOTE="wstfld"]I hate pigs. Useless and dangerous. The police should require college degrees for all new recruits; a full 120 credits. We might be able to filter out some of these stupid slackers. Most cops are the kids that lazily got Cs in school or were too dumb to go to college. GrandJury

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You can't reason with this guy...as evidenced by yesterday's thread

I don't get why everyone is demonizing the cop. Yes, he was driving too fast, but he still had his headlights on. It's not like he was invisible. The teen turned in front of an oncoming car that he wouldn't have been able to avoid even if it were going 20 mph slower. At the end of the day, it's just as much or more the kid's fault for failing to yield to oncoming traffic.

Yep, just another sad result of moron cops thinking they can drive like idiots just becsue they wear a badge. Notice the idiot didn't have his flashing cop lights on making it harder for the teens to realize he was speeding. **** the police.

I don't get why everyone is demonizing the cop. Yes, he was driving too fast, but he still had his headlights on. It's not like he was invisible. The teen turned in front of an oncoming car that he wouldn't have been able to avoid even if it were going 20 mph slower. At the end of the day, it's just as much or more the kid's fault for failing to yield to oncoming traffic.

Mark_the_Lie

[QUOTE="Mark_the_Lie"]

I don't get why everyone is demonizing the cop. Yes, he was driving too fast, but he still had his headlights on. It's not like he was invisible. The teen turned in front of an oncoming car that he wouldn't have been able to avoid even if it were going 20 mph slower. At the end of the day, it's just as much or more the kid's fault for failing to yield to oncoming traffic.

GrandJury

You keep saying that. No he is not. He is supposed to enfore the law. When it comes to driving a car, they both have state-issued licenses; they are both EQUALLY responsibe for driving safely, period. Every person operating a vehicle has the exact SAME responsibility. The cop failed, but the teen's failure is what caused the accident...not the cop's. If you're 19 and don't know how to follow traffic laws, don't drive a car.

You keep saying that. No he is not. He is supposed to enfore the law. When it comes to driving a car, they both have state-issued licenses; they are both EQUALLY responsibe for driving safely, period. Every person operating a vehicle has the exact SAME responsibility. The cop failed, but the teen's failure is what caused the accident...not the cop's. If you're 19 and don't know how to follow traffic laws, don't drive a car.

Mark_the_Lie

They BOTH caused the accident.

But it's kind of hard to charge the teens, isn't it?

Regardless of if the kids helped cause the accident, what the cop did is simply indefensible, so he should get charged.

So it was ok for the cop to go 94 miles? I am not saying the teenager should not take any of the blame but come on. The cop is suppose to uphold the law and follow it aswell. He of all people on the road should no not to be speeding down it.. He is suppose to help keep the roads safe, not cause more harm. At the end of the day how do you think this looks in the eyes of the community and the department? It is going to look like another cop speeding like crazy when he was not suppose to and he killed two teens.GrandJury

Was what I just said not clear? They both failed to follow traffic laws, but the cop speeding is not what caused the wreck. It was the teen's ignoring of an oncoming car and turning into it that caused the wreck. The fact that the cop has a responsibility to uphold the law does not mean he has any more of a responsibility to abide by basic traffic laws than anyone else on the road. I don't even think he should be prosecuted over the deaths. He should be charged with whatever crime driving 94 mph constitutes, and he should be charged with whatever crime not having emergency lights on constitutes...that't it.

Yep, just another sad result of moron cops thinking they can drive like idiots just becsue they wear a badge. Notice the idiot didn't have his flashing cop lights on making it harder for the teens to realize he was speeding. **** the police.

tocklestein2005

[QUOTE="Mark_the_Lie"]

You keep saying that. No he is not. He is supposed to enfore the law. When it comes to driving a car, they both have state-issued licenses; they are both EQUALLY responsibe for driving safely, period. Every person operating a vehicle has the exact SAME responsibility. The cop failed, but the teen's failure is what caused the accident...not the cop's. If you're 19 and don't know how to follow traffic laws, don't drive a car.

MrGeezer

They BOTH caused the accident.

But it's kind of hard to charge the teens, isn't it?

Regardless of if the kids helped cause the accident, what the cop did is simply indefensible, so he should get charged.

They did not both cause the accident. The teen caused it. The cop going too fast did not cause the teens car to move into his path. It's the job of the yielding party to judge when it's safe to make a left turn. Just because the teens are dead doesn't mean someone has to be charged with their deaths. The cop's speeding and failure to use his emergency lights are indefensible, and he should be charged specifically for those, but not his hitting the teens' car. That is very defendable; specifically, it wasn't his fault that they turned in front of oncoming traffic.