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#51 Serraph105
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I'm sorry to hear that the cop got kicked in the shin by a 5 year old boy. That's like, the most tragic cop story I've ever heard. Sounds to me like tying the kid up was the right course of action because how else are you going to subdue an unruly 5 year old boy?

worlock77

Obviously you don't agree with the officer's actions, so please tell us what he should have done instead? How should he have restrained this child?

I don't actually disagree with the idea of taking the kid to the place the cop did, but I do believe tying the kid up to do so was unnecessary. I see very little reason why the cop couldn't have worked together with other people at the school and walked the kid out to his vehicle. There are methods beyond pure force I believe that the guy could have used to get the kid to cooperate long enough to take him where he felt the kid should go.
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#52 xxmatt125xx
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The Officer could of simply walked away from the situation and actually thought through the situation before acting, look at the Officer a 5 year old is no threat to him at all. He should of had someone there that the kid trusted to help keep things calm.
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#53 atony12
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The kid had to be restrained to avoid him injuring himself or others DUH. Why does everyone always go against the cop...

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#54 Serraph105
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The kid had to be restrained to avoid him injuring himself or others DUH. Why does everyone always go against the cop...

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because its pretty hard for a 5 year old to injure a highly trained officer of the law.
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#55 siriusbusiness
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that kid had it coming, adhd is a fake disease for immature kids who just want to start a fight and have an excuse.
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#56 Riverwolf007
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lol the first two comments on tube were all about gmo foods and stopping evil vaccines.

well, i can't fault that logic, if the kid was dead from eating sprouts and cantaloupe or paralyzed with polio that incident would never have happened.

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#57 siriusbusiness
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lol the first two comments on tube were all about gmo foods and stopping evil vaccines.

well, i can't fault that logic, if the kid was dead from eating sprouts and cantaloupe or paralyzed with polio that incident would never have happened.

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I would rather take the chance of death from dying by viruses than conforming to society and letting these evil governments inject us with all of these hormones for their "experiments". It is sick and quite frankly I hope they will be punished for it. Every time I am required to get a vaccination for school, I take the needle and threaten to inject the doctor with it unless they sign the paper saying I got the vaccine, doctors know what is really in the vaccines so they are scared to death of getting one.
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#58 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I'm sorry to hear that the cop got kicked in the shin by a 5 year old boy. That's like, the most tragic cop story I've ever heard. Sounds to me like tying the kid up was the right course of action because how else are you going to subdue an unruly 5 year old boy?

Serraph105

Obviously you don't agree with the officer's actions, so please tell us what he should have done instead? How should he have restrained this child?

I don't actually disagree with the idea of taking the kid to the place the cop did, but I do believe tying the kid up to do so was unnecessary. I see very little reason why the cop couldn't have worked together with other people at the school and walked the kid out to his vehicle. There are methods beyond pure force I believe that the guy could have used to get the kid to cooperate long enough to take him where he felt the kid should go.

I don't know what kind of experience you have with kids, but a child throwing a fit usually isn't prone to cooperating.

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#59 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

lol the first two comments on tube were all about gmo foods and stopping evil vaccines.

well, i can't fault that logic, if the kid was dead from eating sprouts and cantaloupe or paralyzed with polio that incident would never have happened.

siriusbusiness

I would rather take the chance of death from dying by viruses than conforming to society and letting these evil governments inject us with all of these hormones for their "experiments". It is sick and quite frankly I hope they will be punished for it. Every time I am required to get a vaccination for school, I take the needle and threaten to inject the doctor with it unless they sign the paper saying I got the vaccine, doctors know what is really in the vaccines so they are scared to death of getting one.

Haha. Sorry, but I'm calling BS on that one.

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#60 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Obviously you don't agree with the officer's actions, so please tell us what he should have done instead? How should he have restrained this child?

worlock77

I don't actually disagree with the idea of taking the kid to the place the cop did, but I do believe tying the kid up to do so was unnecessary. I see very little reason why the cop couldn't have worked together with other people at the school and walked the kid out to his vehicle. There are methods beyond pure force I believe that the guy could have used to get the kid to cooperate long enough to take him where he felt the kid should go.

I don't know what kind of experience you have with kids, but a child throwing a fit usually isn't prone to cooperating.

figures that my response wouldn't be enough for you. I'm not the only one here though who thinks the cop should have had someone else there that the kid trusts and could keep the kid calm though.

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#61 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] I don't actually disagree with the idea of taking the kid to the place the cop did, but I do believe tying the kid up to do so was unnecessary. I see very little reason why the cop couldn't have worked together with other people at the school and walked the kid out to his vehicle. There are methods beyond pure force I believe that the guy could have used to get the kid to cooperate long enough to take him where he felt the kid should go.Serraph105

I don't know what kind of experience you have with kids, but a child throwing a fit usually isn't prone to cooperating.

figures that my response wouldn't be enough for you. I'm not the only one here though who thinks the cop should have had someone else there that the kid trusts and could keep the kid calm though.

Maybe he should have. But having someone the child trusts isn't necessarily going to keep the child calm though.

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#62 branketra
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[quote="magicalclick"]

If you think touching children is out of the line, then, from my standard, talking to children one-on-one in a room is already out of the line. There is always more ways to make excuses and you know the cop is not having any ill intent. But, if you insist on looking for a way to blame the cop, there is always a way. Locking in a room with another stranger is already out of the line without talking and without touching.

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It's not about children. There are places where touching another person, regardless of age, is considered assault. It seems like ITT some users are looking at this child as if he's an adult with a developed mind. If people are going to do that, give him laws that adults are under, too. Otherwise, forget that argument. I wasn't there, so I don't know what anyone there was thinking. Unless you were there or had some way of seeing what was going on, neither does anyone else. I'm not insisting on anything besides looking at the situation from both sides.

It doesn't matter. The cop can simply touch him out of care and you wouldn't know it. And even if he did it out of care, you wouldn't believe him.

Read the quoted post. But, the biggest problem is every single thing others do, you have to question their motive. The system is screwed when we have to think about every tiny little details that wouldn't offend the minor because it is simply impossible to truly be free of offending. I could even just do a video recording and never be in the room, and what I say would be fine to most kids, but, probably still offend him.

I hope you realize that I just said this in the post you quoted. I said the same thing about the rest earlier, too.Not everyone is a lawyer or a politician. We are not cut out to be politically correct all the time. And we don't think for 5 minutes to make sure what we say/do can guard against all possible law suits.

No one said you had to be. If you're saying that it's okay to make mistakes in regards to judging laws, that's not acceptable. There's a reason why there is a judge and jury, rather than just one person who has the final say. It's to compensate for individual human error.

If you don't even understand what I am trying to say. How about you be the teacher and trying to work with those kids yourself? See how they are going to bully you with all the law suits. It is simply rediculous.

Stop jumping to conclusions. I didn't say that it is what I personally want. I'm being as balanced as I possibly can about this by giving the other side perspective in this thread. That's what I said earlier, too.

I hope you read my response this time.

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#63 branketra
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I'm sorry to hear that the cop got kicked in the shin by a 5 year old boy. That's like, the most tragic cop story I've ever heard. Sounds to me like tying the kid up was the right course of action because how else are you going to subdue an unruly 5 year old boy?

Serraph105

Obviously you don't agree with the officer's actions, so please tell us what he should have done instead? How should he have restrained this child?

I don't actually disagree with the idea of taking the kid to the place the cop did, but I do believe tying the kid up to do so was unnecessary. I see very little reason why the cop couldn't have worked together with other people at the school and walked the kid out to his vehicle. There are methods beyond pure force I believe that the guy could have used to get the kid to cooperate long enough to take him where he felt the kid should go.

I don't know. He might be stronger than the teachers./sarcasm I hope.
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#64 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think because we over label kids ADHD they should be given a free pass to act out. THE_DRUGGIE

I honestly think ADHD is a bullS***disorder, if a girl in my Anatomy class is seating in front of me and her lingerie is showing I'm obviously going to be happy and not pay attention to anything else for a good minute or two.

And this is exactly why cerebal paulsy is another bull**** disorder.

If I have too much to drink I'm obviously not going to be able to keep my balance and speak coherently.

Cerebral Palsy is way different that's a malformation in the brain you can view with an MRI.
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#65 Elraptor
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little pissant deserved it
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#66 xXShortroundXx
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Thats all the kid got ? Gees I would have stabbed him several times in the face if I had the chance :twisted: