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Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.-DSFARGEG-
I agree completely. Violence isn't a good way to deal with anything.
i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.blooddemon666
How about against anyone else? Not corporal punishment, then, it's assault. >_>
Depends on what the child has done. Throwing a temper tantrum for no reason? Bring out the studded leatehr belt. kingkade712
kinky:oops:
[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.blackrytonite
How about against anyone else? Not corporal punishment, then, it's assault. >_>
I don't want my child acting out in public. and there have been many a time i wanted to backhand someone[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.libthegod
In front of everyone the humiliation would be limitless, man wouldn't that suck.
teach them humility.I got the belt when i acted up, and I'm a perfetly fine contributing member of society.
[QUOTE="Kratos_Aurion56"][QUOTE="kingkade712"]Depends on what the child has done. Throwing a temper tantrum for no reason? Bring out the studded leatehr belt. Sajo7
kinky:oops:
You must have been a very spazzy kid.
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[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.blooddemon666
How about against anyone else? Not corporal punishment, then, it's assault. >_>
I don't want my child acting out in public. and there have been many a time i wanted to backhand someoneBut you haven't, have you? Because the police would be called. Double-standards ftl.
I think it's the only way of getting the point across. Time outs are useless.jim_shorts
People in my old grade school thought times outs were a joke. They usually used them to skip out on boring assignments.
I say yesto corporal punishment. Everybody deserves to be punished for what they have done. Detentions and suspensions just don't seem to work.
[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.blooddemon666
How about against anyone else? Not corporal punishment, then, it's assault. >_>
I don't want my child acting out in public. and there have been many a time i wanted to backhand someoneBeat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.
P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D
Corporal Punishment encourages people attempting to test the limits of how far they can go, which means that people will be acting out more. It's a disgusting ritual, and is never appropriate. Ever.
[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.-DSFARGEG-
How about against anyone else? Not corporal punishment, then, it's assault. >_>
I don't want my child acting out in public. and there have been many a time i wanted to backhand someone:| Want to be friends? :lol:
On your first point I hope you were kidding. on the A.D.D. thing southpark is the source all knowledge right? It couldn't be wrong?Beat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.
P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D
MarineJcksn
its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blooddemon666
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]On your first point I hope you were kidding. on the A.D.D. thing southpark is the source all knowledge right? It couldn't be wrong?Beat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.
P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D
-DSFARGEG-
Blasphemy!!!! South park can never be wrong!
[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blackrytonite
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blooddemon666
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blooddemon666
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
Do you support Corporal Punishment when used against children? Personally, I think a good lot of kids today could use a good belting.Franken_BerryAgreed
[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blackrytonite
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.
[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]On your first point I hope you were kidding. on the A.D.D. thing southpark is the source all knowledge right? It couldn't be wrong?Beat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.
P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D
-DSFARGEG-
1st:You shall kneel before South Park, Sir. :P
2nd: I honestly believe there's a true connection with the state of our society going down the toilet and the appearance of all this "Liberal Parenting" people seem to believe in these days. Everything is a disorder or a disease, everyone is so quick to blame their problems on outside factors like their parents rather than looking at themselves, and everything is suddenly cured by medication. I can't count the number of times I've seen kids (both adolescent and teenagers) treat their parents with total disrespect, without any repercussion for their behavior. Where I came from, fathers & mothers were given the up-most respect not only becausethey had our love, but because they punished disrespect and bad behavior.
But thats just me....what do I know.
[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
Redgarl
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.
Authority=/=fear tactics :| Maybe I'm just crazy or something, but respect generally isn't earned through distributing pain. :|
[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blackrytonite
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
There have been many times when a parent tells their child "please stop johnny" but that gets more annoying than the kid after the 30th time.But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
Problem with that is, some kids like to play the why game. And the why game can last a very long time with a kid.Not every kid is/ was like you as a child. Some lack a attention span and wont even understand the explanation of why they can't do or have something.
Well what I'm trying to say is....not every kid is the ideal kid. You have your loud mouth, your quiet, and your general bad eggs. You cant grant each one with the same punishment.
Though I do believe every parent should try explaining things first before taking further actions.
[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blackrytonite
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.
Authority=/=fear tactics :| Maybe I'm just crazy or something, but respect generally isn't earned through distributing pain. :|
If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected.[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
dreamdude
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
There have been many times when a parent tells their child "please stop johnny" but that gets more annoying than the kid after the 30th time.But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
Problem with that is, some kids like the play the why game. And the why game can last a very long time with a kid.Not every kid is/ was like you as a child. Some lack a attention span and wont even understand the explanation of why they can't do or have something.
Well what I'm trying to say is....not every kid is the ideal kid. You have your loud mouth, your quiet, and your general bad eggs. You cant grant each one with the same punishment.
Though I do believe every parent should try explaining things first before taking further actions.
Exactly. If kids don't have a good reason, they won't take their parents seriously, and why should they? If the parents don't know why the kid should stop doing something, why should the kid stop doing it?[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blackrytonite
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.
Authority=/=fear tactics :| Maybe I'm just crazy or something, but respect generally isn't earned through distributing pain. :|
yup that's exactly what ends wars.If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. Greatgone12
Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.
[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. blackrytonite
Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.
I don't think you should earn your child's respect. that should be a given. I respect my parents to the utmost, i don't dare question their authority, and im 19Beat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.
P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D
MarineJcksn
No, kids shoot of schools these days because their peers beat the crap out of them, emotionaly and physically.
[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"]If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. blooddemon666
Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.
I don't think you should earn your child's respect. that should be a given. I respect my parents to the utmost, i don't dare question their authority, and im 19No matter your position, respect is something you earn through making the right decisions. I'm not saying you shouldn't already have respect for your parents, but there is also a sort of respect you earn by showing you deserve it.
[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
blackrytonite
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.
Authority=/=fear tactics :| Maybe I'm just crazy or something, but respect generally isn't earned through distributing pain. :|
I believe the contrary, fear and respect are both link. Fear usually give a feeling of been weaker and result in respect. I do not mean beating the kid up, I mean making him fear a slap on the butt. It was working with me, so I don't know why we should'nt apply thing that worked in the past because some dumb psychologist are telling us to leave the kid free of doing anything.
It's usually get worst by doing so.
[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]Beat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.
P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D
The_Ish
No, kids shoot of schools these days because their peers beat the crap out of them, emotionaly and physically.
Children's peers didn't beat the crap out of them in 1950? :|
[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. blackrytonite
Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.
If you're not able to earn respect, you're not fit to be respected....What I meant to say.
[QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.
Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.
The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?
Redgarl
Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.
But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.
The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.
Authority=/=fear tactics :| Maybe I'm just crazy or something, but respect generally isn't earned through distributing pain. :|
I believe the contrary, fear and respect are both link. Fear usually give a feeling of been weaker and result in respect. I do not mean beating the kid up, I mean making him fear a slap on the butt. It was working with me, so I don't know why we should'nt apply thing that worked in the past because some dumb psychologist are telling us to leave the kid free of doing anything.
It's usually get worst by doing so.
Respect is honor. So you honor someone for hurting you?
And, not using physical punishment=/=letting child run free and do whatever they want.
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