Corporal Punishment vs Children - Good or Bad?

I am in support of it. A firm but loving spanking can do what words cannot. Pain is, after all, a stimulus response to something that threatens our lives. If a child attaches certain behaviors to pain, it will not perform those actions. Why should we, therefore, neglect to use such a perfected response?tycoonmike

Fetishes. >_> That's usually how it happens for people. Cause it's soloving. Perfected. o_o;;

Do you support Corporal Punishment when used against children? Personally, I think a good lot of kids today could use a good belting.Franken_Berry

problem with this is teacher may tend to misuse the power and just beat kids when they have a bad day :)

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Beat them senseless. That's the problem with society today, people don't beat their kids anymore. No kids shot up their schools in 1950. You know why? Cuz their parents whooped the CRAP outta them. 'Nuff said.

P.S. A.D.D. doesn't exist. Haven't ya'll seen South Park? :D

MarineJcksn

No, kids shoot of schools these days because their peers beat the crap out of them, emotionaly and physically.

Children's peers didn't beat the crap out of them in 1950? :|

Not as much, I'm sure.

[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"]

its difficult to teach a child a lesson verbally, they get into the "playing around" mindset, and they think you are messing around with them.

Now, i don't want to sound like an expert here, but if a kid relates getting smacked with taking another kids toy, they are less likely to do it.

The last time I got my ass beat was when i was six. I was told not to touch the stove because it was hot and i would hurt myself. Me, being the kid i was, touched the stove and burned myself, I subsequently got my ass beat for it. Now, do you think I touch a hot stove?

blackrytonite

Children aren't as foolish as you make them out to be. I know if I was just reasoned with a child, I would have turned out much better. :| I had the mental capacity to understand what I was being told.

But how about explaining why? Some children aren't going to stop unless they understand, and some parents aren't patient enough to explain.

The problems is usually that the parents don't have any autority, and sometime, there is no other choice to show autority.

Authority=/=fear tactics :| Maybe I'm just crazy or something, but respect generally isn't earned through distributing pain. :|

I believe the contrary, fear and respect are both link. Fear usually give a feeling of been weaker and result in respect. I do not mean beating the kid up, I mean making him fear a slap on the butt. It was working with me, so I don't know why we should'nt apply thing that worked in the past because some dumb psychologist are telling us to leave the kid free of doing anything.

It's usually get worst by doing so.

Respect is honor. So you honor someone for hurting you?

And, not using physical punishment=/=letting child run free and do whatever they want.

Pfff, most of the parents I haave seen are not even able to raise children well by letting them do whatever they want. Like it or not, sometime a punition is necessary and for a young kid, nothing is more fearsome than a slight slap on the butt.

You are confonding a real beat up with an actual slap. You will see when you get childrens, you will lost your temper one day and the kid is not dumb, he will learn by it and you will never have the upside on him.

[QUOTE="blackrytonite"]

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. blooddemon666

Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.

not trying to sound like a rebel but just mindlessly obeying people, even your parents, isn't smart. i personaly think its **** when kids ask why they need to do something and parents say "cause I said so." when you give a child no reason to do something you're not giving them a very positive example.

If theyre acting up, then sure, beat their ass. Maybe then they wont do it again.

When I was a kid, I got the belt if i misbehaved. And whaddya know, I turned out to be a very good person...

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"]

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. firebreathing

Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.

not trying to sound like a rebel but just mindlessly obeying people, even your parents, isn't smart. i personaly think its **** when kids ask why they need to do something and parents say "cause I said so." when you give a child no reason to do something you're not giving them a very positive example.

And I agreee with that for the most part. My parents work their butt of to provide for my family, the least I could do is help them out and respect them.

[QUOTE="firebreathing"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="blackrytonite"]

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]If you're not able to get respect, you're not fit to be respected. Def_Jef88

Isn't respect earned? It's not something you just get.

not trying to sound like a rebel but just mindlessly obeying people, even your parents, isn't smart. i personaly think its **** when kids ask why they need to do something and parents say "cause I said so." when you give a child no reason to do something you're not giving them a very positive example.

And I agreee with that for the most part. My parents work their butt of to provide for my family, the least I could do is help them out and respect them.

[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]I am in support of it. A firm but loving spanking can do what words cannot. Pain is, after all, a stimulus response to something that threatens our lives. If a child attaches certain behaviors to pain, it will not perform those actions. Why should we, therefore, neglect to use such a perfected response?blackrytonite

Fetishes. >_> That's usually how it happens for people. Cause it's soloving. Perfected. o_o;;

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic...

Do you support Corporal Punishment when used against children? Personally, I think a good lot of kids today could use a good belting.Franken_Berry

I think it's wrong to say "corporal punishment AGAINST children". We should be saying "corporal punishment FOR children."

Keep in mind, we're beating them to help them, not to hurt them.

Do you support Corporal Punishment when used against children? Personally, I think a good lot of kids today could use a good belting.Franken_Berry

i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.blooddemon666

Backhand slap FTW. wow i seem to agree with u on alot of things :S

Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.-DSFARGEG-

You know, all of the poor trashy kids are getting beaten by their wife-beating dads. And then they're just gonna beat up my son because he knows how to read, he doesn't like rap, and her thinks that Larry the Cable Guy is not funny.

Yeah, he's gonna be different, so people are going to want to beat the **** out of him because he's different. Here's my question...how can I adequately train my child to deal with being beaten without first giving him a training beating? You're never going to learn how to use nunchucks (spelling is wrong, I know) without first whacking yourself in the freaking head a few times.

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"]Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.blackrytonite

I agree completely. Violence isn't a good way to deal with anything.

Violence is a good way to deal with violence.

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"]Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.MrGeezer

You know, all of the poor trashy kids are getting beaten by their wife-beating dads. And then they're just gonna beat up my son because he knows how to read, he doesn't like rap, and her thinks that Larry the Cable Guy is not funny.

Yeah, he's gonna be different, so people are going to want to beat the **** out of him because he's different. Here's my question...how can I adequately train my child to deal with being beaten without first giving him a training beating? You're never going to learn how to use nunchucks (spelling is wrong, I know) without first whacking yourself in the freaking head a few times.

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]i think the extent should be a backhand across the face.blackrytonite

How about against anyone else? Not corporal punishment, then, it's assault. >_>

I also can't walk up to a random person on the street and make him wash my dishes.

On the other hand, I most certainly can make my kids wash the dishes. Because unless I';m seriously abusing them, they are for all practical purposes my PROPERTY. I OWN them. And if I tell them to wash the dishes, you can be damn sure that they're going to end up washing the dishes. Whether or not they choose the easy way or the hard way is up to them.

[QUOTE="blackrytonite"]

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"]Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.MrGeezer

I agree completely. Violence isn't a good way to deal with anything.

Violence is a good way to deal with violence.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"]Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.blooddemon666

You know, all of the poor trashy kids are getting beaten by their wife-beating dads. And then they're just gonna beat up my son because he knows how to read, he doesn't like rap, and her thinks that Larry the Cable Guy is not funny.

Yeah, he's gonna be different, so people are going to want to beat the **** out of him because he's different. Here's my question...how can I adequately train my child to deal with being beaten without first giving him a training beating? You're never going to learn how to use nunchucks (spelling is wrong, I know) without first whacking yourself in the freaking head a few times.

People need to quit *****ing about kids feeling pain.

They're KIDS.

What do kids do? They break their legs doing dumbass skateboard stunts. They get beaten up by their ****ates. They play with bees because they look pretty. They try to swallow cactus thorns. Hell, kids are stupid and careless, and they're gonna get hurt, one way or the other. Now, that's normal and everyone is fine with that. We're all fine with letting our kids do stupid crap that could get them KILLED, but it's somehow wrong when we inflict pain in a controlled environment, with no chance of real injury to the child?

For children, pain is a fact oif life. How is my child going to learn about pain if I don't teach him? Answer: he's gonna learn about pain from the scumbag "fgriends" that he's hanging out with. And answer this honestly: who would you rather have teaching YOUR child about pain? HIS OWN FATHER, or some weird little kid who poops in the sink and murders cats?

[QUOTE="blackrytonite"]

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"]Bad. I am strongly opposed to any violence towards minors.MrGeezer

I agree completely. Violence isn't a good way to deal with anything.

Violence is a good way to deal with violence.

Jesus doesn't think so. ARE YOU AGAINST JESUS?! ARE YOU?! STOP MAKING HIM CRY JESUS HATER!

I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL ****ING KILL YOU!

[QUOTE="blackrytonite"]

[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]I am in support of it. A firm but loving spanking can do what words cannot. Pain is, after all, a stimulus response to something that threatens our lives. If a child attaches certain behaviors to pain, it will not perform those actions. Why should we, therefore, neglect to use such a perfected response?tycoonmike

Fetishes. >_> That's usually how it happens for people. Cause it's soloving. Perfected. o_o;;

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic...

Then I sincerely hope you are, too.

I also can't walk up to a random person on the street and make him wash my dishes.

On the other hand, I most certainly can make my kids wash the dishes. Because unless I';m seriously abusing them, they are for all practical purposes my PROPERTY. I OWN them. And if I tell them to wash the dishes, you can be damn sure that they're going to end up washing the dishes. Whether or not they choose the easy way or the hard way is up to them.

Wow... You can't OWN human beings.... they belong to themself. I understand that if you tell them to do something, they should, but you don't OWN them. And earlier you said you were going to give your son a practice beating? Wtf is that? Please explain to me your logic of being a bad parent, please because I must be fairly dense in the head.

Anyways... On topic now. I think Corporal Punishment is only appropriate at some times and NEEDS limits. If your child slaps at you, slap them back a bit harder (That doesn't mean knock them into next week). Teach them to respect you as a parent and the rules of the house from when they are younger and they shouldn't be little monsters. There are other ways to deal with punishment when a child is bad too. Take away T.V., Phone (cell phones too), computer, anything fun they like to do. Boredom is an excellent punishment for children nowadays. Beating the **** out of them will not solve anything. The only thing that might do is make them act out of spite, and hate you.

Woah... screwed up my quote...

Wow... You can't OWN human beings.... they belong to themself. I understand that if you tell them to do something, they should, but you don't OWN them. And earlier you said you were going to give your son a practice beating? Wtf is that? Please explain to me your logic of being a bad parent, please because I must be fairly dense in the head.

Anyways... On topic now. I think Corporal Punishment is only appropriate at some times and NEEDS limits. If your child slaps at you, slap them back a bit harder (That doesn't mean knock them into next week). Teach them to respect you as a parent and the rules of the house from when they are younger and they shouldn't be little monsters. There are other ways to deal with punishment when a child is bad too. Take away T.V., Phone (cell phones too), computer, anything fun they like to do. Boredom is an excellent punishment for children nowadays. Beating the **** out of them will not solve anything. The only thing that might do is make them act out of spite, and hate you.

Woah... screwed up my quote...

Chunkymonkey333

You have a much more balanced view......I like it if people at least don't act like they want to hit their kids, it just makes them look bad.

If I were a parent, and my child hit me, we'd be having a talk about why hitting isn't acceptable. And if they were completely out of control, then restraint is the best solution. Getting in a fight with a little kid would make me question my self-control. >_>

I agree with you on taking away privledges, it makes kids appreciate what they have more.