Could life really be just an illusion?

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

So the general idea is that we can't observe the universe because we can onl;y observe it as observers, so if there was no one around to observe it we wouldn't know if it really existed or not?

Clearly I didn't understand it, but I think it sounds like a whole lot of philosophical "what if's" more or less.

cee1gee

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

So the general idea is that we can't observe the universe because we can onl;y observe it as observers, so if there was no one around to observe it we wouldn't know if it really existed or not?

Clearly I didn't understand it, but I think it sounds like a whole lot of philosophical "what if's" more or less.

DigitalExile

A cIassic Indian philosophical concept. Very prevalent in Vedanta and Buddhist literature. And most certainly, it could really be true, since it is impossible to discern between a dream and what we call "reality."

A cIassic Indian philosophical concept. Very prevalent in Vedanta and Buddhist literature. And most certainly, it could really be true, since it is impossible to discern between a dream and what we call "reality."

foxhound_fox

Yes, some Buddhist sects believe the way to become enlighten is to understand life is nothing more than illusion and thus, break the cycle of reincarnation

You have no proof to say things can not act differently...therefore it is a possibility that the illusion is correct..and there really is no sound when the tree fallscee1gee

It reminds me of that theory, and it could be the same thing, where chair is not a chair when you leave the room. If that's the case, then so what? It doesn't matter what it is or isn't when we're not around, because when we are--and that's the only thing we can ever be--it will always be the same.

Yes, some Buddhist sects believe the way to become enlighten is to understand life is nothing more than illusion and thus, break the cycle of reincarnation

ariz3260

also scientists say that if you are wearing a red shirt, and u turn the lights off and its completely dark..the shirt is no longer red...since light makes colors

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

So the general idea is that we can't observe the universe because we can onl;y observe it as observers, so if there was no one around to observe it we wouldn't know if it really existed or not?

Clearly I didn't understand it, but I think it sounds like a whole lot of philosophical "what if's" more or less.

cee1gee

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] IF that is all true...The answer to the question "If a tree falls in the forest with no one around, does it make a sound" is NO... Nothing is there to observe it, therefore the sound does not exist...cee1gee

Philosophy major reporting in.

Rene Descartes, noted French Rationalist philosopher and mathematician, came upon his famous Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum proof in his Meditations as a result of a thought experiment he conducted, in which his system of doubt considered the possibility that we cannot differentiate between when we're awake and when we're dreaming. Thus, our sense-perceptions could possibly not be derived from reality. In other words, our sense perceptions can be called into doubt because we have no way of truly telling whether or not they're illusions.

A modern rendition of "dream skepticism" is known as the Brain in the Vat.

My brain hurts...

It's possible.

this sounds like a reference to the matrix lol

i see now that the Matrix influenced a lot of people...c'mon!!!definitely one of the weirdest topics...not in a bad way

if we were a living illusion

that means that there's no such thing as " existence ".....

who's that id*** that write all these pathetic theories.....?

Sir, are you by any chance stoned?jimmyjammer69

no , am a theorest......

by the way .....

how could life be an illusion if it makes sense......?

illusions don't make that much sence

your dreams , mirages and a lot more are illusion...

none of them makes sense.....

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Sir, are you by any chance stoned?the-wayward

no , am a theorest......

by the way .....

how could life be an illusion if it makes sense......?

illusions don't make that much sence

your dreams , mirages and a lot more are illusion...

none of them makes sense.....

[QUOTE="the-wayward"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Sir, are you by any chance stoned?jimmyjammer69

no , am a theorest......

by the way .....

how could life be an illusion if it makes sense......?

illusions don't make that much sence

your dreams , mirages and a lot more are illusion...

none of them makes sense.....

no problem at all.....:)

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]Which I don't believe. Just because no one is there doesn't mean the universe will somehow act differently. The only way to dispute this is to go into "what if's".

Crypto138

LOL! You are telling me to back up my claim when you can not even back up yours

Sir, are you by any chance stoned?jimmyjammer69

What does it matter? Marijuana doesn't induce any kind of hallucination or altering of the mind. The theory has been in existence for a good while, and I just happened to come across it recently. It makes some sense, and all I can do it look into it even further.

The video I posted only explains the theory much more better than I, but that is not where I got the idea in the first place.

Why do I have to be stoned or on some type of drug for me to consider this theory.

whenever I think about these things it makes my brain hurt.:?

natedrummer95

[QUOTE="Crypto138"][QUOTE="cee1gee"] You have no proof to say things can not act differently...therefore it is a possibility that the illusion is correct..and there really is no sound when the tree fallscee1gee

LOL! You are telling me to back up my claim when you can not even back up yours

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

[QUOTE="Crypto138"] Burden of Proof clearly means nothing to you. You said trees don't make a sound when we aren't there, so the burden of proof lies on you to prove it. There's very few things that irk me more than people going, "prove me wrong, or I'm right!" Either back up your claims with evidence, or stop making such claims. Sure, you can go ahead and say all sorts of crazy things that might happen when we aren't looking, but, personally, I don't consider baseless speculation to be in any way credible.Crypto138

LOL! You are telling me to back up my claim when you can not even back up yours

its just simply a educated guess...scientists dont really have the brain power to figure it out

Yeah, life could very well be an illusion.

Its so elaborately designed, so its easy to believe its truly real.

This reminds me of that episode of Futurama (Obsoletely Fabulous) where Bender get's an upgrade.

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[QUOTE="Crypto138"][QUOTE="cee1gee"]

LOL! You are telling me to back up my claim when you can not even back up yours

cee1gee

its just simply a educated guess...scientists dont really have the brain power to figure it out

Isn't that called nihilism?

I would NOT be surprised if this became a cult, or a religion or something. It's crazy to think about. I mean, what if we are illusions? Nothing would be real, and when we die, we actually wake up and are granted eternal life? Like if our lives are just a game we have to play through and once we reach the end, we really open our eyes... Hmm, it's interesting to ponder about... What if WE are our own gods?DeadSarow