Could the Enterprise successfully launch an assault on the Death Star?

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#1 RaptorPen
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Could the Enterprise defeat the forces of the Empire and take out the Death Star? Could the shuttle survive the trench run?

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#2 themajormayor
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Yes
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#3 Palantas
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No. The Enterprise is big. The Death Star's guns would blow it to pieces the second it got close.

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#4 Talldude80
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No. The Enterprise is big. The Death Star's guns would blow it to pieces the second it got close.

Palantas

yeah, Starwars > Star trek

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#5 Jackc8
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No. I remember at the end of Wrath of Khan when they shot that other ship with a photon torpedo. It blew off one of the engine nacelles. You could shoot at the Death Star all day long with those things and they'd just laugh :P

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#6 akira2465
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LOL No , they can't repel firepower of that magnitude

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#7 CycleOfViolence
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Nay.

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#8 StRaItJaCkEt36
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yes. it's fiction after all, anything can happen.
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#9 parkurtommo
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Absolutely not, have you even seen star trek? Like half of the time they're complaining about their shields being destroyed D:

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#10 Palantas
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yes. it's fiction after all, anything can happen.StRaItJaCkEt36

If we're not going to suspend disbelief, then no: These things are imaginary, and no described incident involving them can occur.

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#11 branketra
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Probably not. They would have to sneak inside and turn it inside out.
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#12 StRaItJaCkEt36
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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"]yes. it's fiction after all, anything can happen.Palantas

If we're not going to suspend disbelief, then no: These things are imaginary, and no described incident involving them can occur.

what are you talking about? It's a hypothetical question based on fictional realities. stop being silly.
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#13 Gamingclone
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They would fail.

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#14 Wren28
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Depends on which Enterprise it is...the NCC-1701, 1701-A, B and C probably not...the D might have a chance and the E a far better chance yet.

Now the Defiant probably could :P.

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#15 NiKva
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The Death Star is already destroyed.
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#16 hydralisk86
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LOL No , they can't repel firepower of that magnitude

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Uhh that was what Admiral Ackbar said about going up against the Super Star Destroyer, not the Death Star.
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#17 Palantas
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[QUOTE="I"]

If we're not going to suspend disbelief, then no: These things are imaginary, and no described incident involving them can occur.

StRaItJaCkEt36

what are you talking about? It's a hypothetical question based on fictional realities. stop being silly.

Which part of my remark confuses you? I'm aware that it's a hypothetical question based on fiction; my statement acknowledges this...obvoiusly.

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#18 StRaItJaCkEt36
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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"][QUOTE="I"]

If we're not going to suspend disbelief, then no: These things are imaginary, and no described incident involving them can occur.

Palantas

what are you talking about? It's a hypothetical question based on fictional realities. stop being silly.

Which part of my remark confuses you? I'm aware that it's a hypothetical question based on fiction; my statement acknowledges this...obvoiusly.

I'm not confused by what you said. It simply had no place to be said and was unrelated to anything of substance. I feel embarrised for you, because I know how hard you try.

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#19 Palantas
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Depends on which Enterprise it is...the NCC-1701, 1701-A, B and C probably not...the D might have a chance and the E a far better chance yet.

Now the Defiant probably could :P.

Wren28

The newest Enterprises if anything have less of a chance against the Death Star, by virtue of being a bigger target. As for the Defiant, we're assuming: A.) It has ordnance appropriate to conducting the trench run, B.) The DS9 staff has the DS's technical plans, and the capability of analyzing them, C.) The Defiant is sufficiently small and maneuverable to avoid the DS's guns, and D.) It would be able to survive against Imperial fighter craft. That's a lot of assumptions.

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#20 Palantas
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I'm not confused by what you said. It simply had no place to be said and was unrelated to anything of substance.

StRaItJaCkEt36

Then why'd you ask what I was talking about? Whatever, I made my remark based on your comment: That this is fiction and can be written any way we like. (Which is completely useless in answering our question, and obviously unrelated to anything of substance.) I was just springboarding off what you said.

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#21 IcyToasters
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Probably not, because it's big, like other people have said. It could probably last for awhile near the Death Star, in range of just fighters.

Wouldn't it not fit in the trench anyway? So to get to the vent, wouldn't it need to fly along the top of the trench, where a lot of the defence guns are?

It could help, but wouldn't be the right type of ship for actually blowing the Death Star up.

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#22 KungfuKitten
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I'm not sure but can't the Enterprise ships only fire on a few targets at once? Cause with all the TIE's, and the defense cannons, I don't think they would be able to get anywhere without being hit a lot.
So then it would mainly depend on their shield? I could ask a friend who knows almost everything about Star Trek. He knows about the types of shields and the impact they can sustain and all that, But I doubt he knows the same about the TIE weapon systems and such...

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#23 deactivated-58a5e8ead9efe
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I doubt it. Star Wars weapons, shields, tech, etc seem to operate on a much greater order of magnitude than Star Trek tech.

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#24 Allicrombie
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I think the Defiant would have better odds.
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#25 dercoo
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Considering Death Star was meant to annihilate large ships & planets,

and considering Star wars tech more advanced than star trek

my answer would be

:lol: no

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#26 TheFallenDemon
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The Enterprise won't even get past the Tie Fighters.

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#27 SPYDER0416
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I don't think so. The Enterprise too big, so it could easily be swarmed by all the TIE fighters, while its not small enough to reach the exhaust port and probably lacks the bombs to take it out. Plus the Death Star is massive and heavily protected, so a straight up fight would not work.

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#28 KiIIyou
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Did the death star have shields? i forgot
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[QUOTE="Jackc8"]

No. I remember at the end of Wrath of Khan when they shot that other ship with a photon torpedo. It blew off one of the engine nacelles. You could shoot at the Death Star all day long with those things and they'd just laugh :P

[/QUOTE agreed lol
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#30 Chaos_HL21
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I think the Enterprise could succesfully attack the Death Star. If it is the newest Enterprise they can stay outside of the Death Stars sensors, beam over a antimater (or other large weapon) to the Death Star's core, or they could send in a strike team, and disable the weapons systems of the Death Star.

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#31 gamer-adam1
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I think the Enterprise could succesfully attack the Death Star. If it is the newest Enterprise they can stay outside of the Death Stars sensors, beam over a antimater (or other large weapon) to the Death Star's core, or they could send in a strike team, and disable the weapons systems of the Death Star.

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they don't have jedis, so the strom troppers would be able to kill them fast.

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#32 gamer-adam1
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Did the death star have shields? i forgotKiIIyou

the second one did for sure, but I think the first one had deflector shields if anything

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#33 Commander-Gree
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The Death Star was built for destroying planets. You would need an entire fleet of Enterprises in order to take on the Death Star.
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#34 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

I think the Enterprise could succesfully attack the Death Star. If it is the newest Enterprise they can stay outside of the Death Stars sensors, beam over a antimater (or other large weapon) to the Death Star's core, or they could send in a strike team, and disable the weapons systems of the Death Star.

gamer-adam1

they don't have jedis, so the strom troppers would be able to kill them fast.

If Ewoks can take Strom Troopers with AT-STs I think a strike team of Star Fleet forces could take Strom Troopers.:D

Also what if they just beamed over a antimater bomb. Plus being outside of the Death Star's sensors they will not be able to prepare for an attack.

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#35 CreasianDevaili
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Wouldn't be reasonable to compare the two ip's at all in any space battle. Star Wars is more imagination than science, and as such everything is "extremely powerful". Star trek is more about science, and relative to such it isnt in the same "power" range. But if the Enterprise-E was scaled upwards to StarWars big mega hyper everything then yes. Or the enterprise, with an actually good crew and engineering, could just beam over a bomb and that be it.
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#36 CrossChecked
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Considering Death Star was meant to annihilate large ships & planets,

and considering Star wars tech more advanced than star trek

my answer would be

:lol: no

dercoo

^this. The Rebel commander says that the Death Star's defensive weapons are calibrated to destroy enemy ships, not fighters, which is the only way the Rebels were able to take down the first one with fighters. So, to attack a fully armed and armored Death Star with only one ship as large and as powerful as the Enterprise would be *adjusts glasses* illogical.

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#37 rpDrummer2012
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[QUOTE="Wren28"]

Depends on which Enterprise it is...the NCC-1701, 1701-A, B and C probably not...the D might have a chance and the E a far better chance yet.

Now the Defiant probably could :P.

I could see the Defiant making a succesful trench run on the Death Star.
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#38 weezyfb
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of course
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#39 rpDrummer2012
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Wait I have a pretty good question......what if the Borg Collective could succesfully launch a assault on the Death Star? Lets say the Death Star II since it was fully armored, and the Empire threw every thing they had against the Collective. But then again the Borg can adapt to their weapons what about Force Powers if both Darth Sidious and DarthVader was thrown into the mix?

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#40 wolverine4262
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Star Trek is a show about exploration, while Star Wars is about war, so....
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#42 soulless4now
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I'm gonna say no since I know this is Star Trek related.

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#43 poptart
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Definitely not, although it could definitely make the kessel run under 12 parsecs.
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#44 OrkHammer007
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The only race from Star Trek that I can see doing anything to the Death Star is the Romulans: cloak, sneak in, torpedo the vent, warp out before the explosion.

The Enterprise would be a sitting duck.

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#45 MAILER_DAEMON
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Which one? You gonna send NX-01 at that thing?
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#46 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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No. The Enterprise is big. The Death Star's guns would blow it to pieces the second it got close.

Palantas

this is true. i think that they directly mention in a new hope that the Death Star had defenses specifically designed for taking down large ships, hence why they needed small and fast fighter craft to do it

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#47 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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No. The Death Star is a heavily armed and armored space station. The Enterprise would be WTFPWNED.

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#48 coolbeans90
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I think it's been well established that only a small, one-man fighter can successfully confront a completed death star's defenses.

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#49 flipin_jackass
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Could they use the transporter to beam a nuke to the center of the Death Star?
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#50 Palantas
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I think the Enterprise could succesfully attack the Death Star. If it is the newest Enterprise they can stay outside of the Death Stars sensors, beam over a antimater (or other large weapon) to the Death Star's core, or they could send in a strike team, and disable the weapons systems of the Death Star.

Chaos_HL21

Could they use the transporter to beam a nuke to the center of the Death Star?flipin_jackass

It's been established in Star Trek that transporters are disrupted by shields, strong energy sources, dense shielding, naturally occuring ores, and a stiff breeze. Any Star Wars warship has three of the above items.

Wait I have a pretty good question......what if the Borg Collective could succesfully launch a assault on the Death Star? Lets say the Death Star II since it was fully armored, and the Empire threw every thing they had against the Collective. But then again the Borg can adapt to their weapons what about Force Powers if both Darth Sidious and DarthVader was thrown into the mix?

rpDrummer2012

A Death Star has the mass of millions of cubes, and demonstrated firepower many orders of magnitude higher than anything produced by the Borg. The Borg control a tiny portion of their galaxy, versus the Star Wars civilization which has covered the entire galaxy for thousands of years. The Borg would not be a singnificant threat to the Empire.