D. Morris: We should drug test every high school student

I just read this article about an interview with Dick Morris, thought this quote was interesting:

"We should drug test every high school student. We should drug test everybody that gets a student loan. Anybody that's using drugs should not get a government student loan."

This guy is insane, I don't know much about him other than that he's constantly on Fox News.

Well luckily it will never happen :P

Good luck with that one. JML897

I agree that Ron Paul is horrific, but not for those two points, I actually agree with him on ending those two wars.

As for drug testing students, hell no to high school students if that's what he was suggesting, way too authoritarian. As for students getting government loans, fine, so long as they start testing for alcohol as well. Most of the students I know that use are more repsonsible than the ones that binge drink, providing the two don't overlap.

Is he thinking they use their loan to buy drugs? So what... They spend it on other useless stuff too.LustForSoul

I spent mine on 20-year-old scotch.

EDIT: Let me further add that I don't click on links that aren't linked. This link is linked, but I'm not clicking on it because I'm a lazy motherf***er. In spite of this, I have determined that the guy suggesting this is A.) White, and B.) Fat.

lol clearly the guy doesn't give much thought to the cost of things. Even if drug tests were free I would still disagree with this as there are more important things for the people running the tests to do.

lol clearly the guy doesn't give much thought to the cost of things. Even if drug tests were free I would still disagree with this as there are more important things for the people running the tests to do.

Serraph105

Yeah, and I also think the bigger indicator of whether or not there's a problem in this regard should be graduation rate of students getting loans, and I'm pretty sure it's typically pretty high.

Ron Paul is too logical to be president

:lol: Good luck with that one. JML897

About sums up my feelings, I would like to add that I find it hypocritical if he's not lumping alcohol and cigarettes in there as well.

Why not drug test anyone getting welfare/foodstamps or any type of government aid?AutoPilotOn

You can only use food stamps for food, I think there are procedures in place to make sure you can't spend all of your loan money on things not pertaining to school, and people who are on welfare can't afford to be spending it on anything other than what they need.

The (relatively few, although significant) disagreements that I have with Ron Paul have definitely not to do with those issues. I consider it rather cliche to make Orwellian references, although in this case I do think that it would be accurate to draw the comparison against drug testing high school students.

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]Why not drug test anyone getting welfare/foodstamps or any type of government aid?theone86

You can only use food stamps for food, I think there are procedures in place to make sure you can't spend all of your loan money on things not pertaining to school, and people who are on welfare can't afford to be spending it on anything other than what they need.

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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]Why not drug test anyone getting welfare/foodstamps or any type of government aid?67gt500

You can only use food stamps for food, I think there are procedures in place to make sure you can't spend all of your loan money on things not pertaining to school, and people who are on welfare can't afford to be spending it on anything other than what they need.

How many exactly is "many?" I've known quite a few welfare recipients and I've never known them to buy alcohol first or weed ever. Besides, if you've ever seen the way most of them live it's not like they're living the high life or anything (no pun intended).

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You can only use food stamps for food, I think there are procedures in place to make sure you can't spend all of your loan money on things not pertaining to school, and people who are on welfare can't afford to be spending it on anything other than what they need.

How many exactly is "many?" I've known quite a few welfare recipients and I've never known them to buy alcohol first or weed ever. Besides, if you've ever seen the way most of them live it's not like they're living the high life or anything (no pun intended).

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[QUOTE="67gt500"] Many welfare recipients spend their subsidy on weed and alcohol first... they consider those to be 'needs'AutoPilotOn

How many exactly is "many?" I've known quite a few welfare recipients and I've never known them to buy alcohol first or weed ever. Besides, if you've ever seen the way most of them live it's not like they're living the high life or anything (no pun intended).

That means they run out of foodstamps pretty fast, not only are they not getting food from the stamps they sell but they are losing half the value of the stamps as well. To me that makes absolutely no sense, you're going to trade food for weed, in other words you're going to give yourself the munchies with no way to cure them?

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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]Why not drug test anyone getting welfare/foodstamps or any type of government aid?67gt500

You can only use food stamps for food, I think there are procedures in place to make sure you can't spend all of your loan money on things not pertaining to school, and people who are on welfare can't afford to be spending it on anything other than what they need.

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You can only use food stamps for food, I think there are procedures in place to make sure you can't spend all of your loan money on things not pertaining to school, and people who are on welfare can't afford to be spending it on anything other than what they need.

majoras_wrath

It's not a generalization at all.. nor baseless... I'm not ashamed to admit that, some years ago, I lived in a subsidized housing complex (I was the only resident who paid full rent, because I was working and refused a hand-out)... I saw and experienced what I'm referring to first-hand...

B.S...The majority of HS students aren't even on drugs, contrary to popular belief. I myself am one and I don't do any drugs, and neither do any of my close friends. He clearly didn't think this over logically either, many people are required to take certain prescription drugs, so when those show up they have to go through the effort of explaining and getting a citation.

Additionally, different kinds of tests are needed to pick up different types of drugs. Certain drugs only show up through blood, or other means of testing. I think requiring all HS students to submit to blood testing is a bit strict as well as stupid, considering the fact that the MLB doesn't even force it's players to give up that right, only requiring urine testing.

Wouldn't the cost of that be prohibitively high?the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Whoa! Let's not point out government spending when a conservative is proposing a pet project or idea.

drugs are for noobs and high school is the best place to find them

That would be completely pointless because a shocking number of high schoolers... wait for it... DONT DO DRUGSjak275

Yep, the percentages are way to low to actually justify such a huge expenditure on the government, or any private organization's part.

Drugs are illegal, so why should I have to pay for the loans of kids doing something illegal? I admit I haven't looked at the stats of how many HS students are on drugs, but even if it's a small percentage, those who are on it shouldn't be recieving tax payer money

If we're going by my school, that would be 95% of the enrollment :lol:.

I think we should make it an option. Send a form home, and parents can choose to not have it done. But yeah I agree we could put a lot of kids in jail though. I completely think we should, just not forced.

He's on fox news... no wonder.

Why not drug test anyone getting welfare/foodstamps or any type of government aid?AutoPilotOn

There we go. Not having welfare at all would be better in my opinion. I say you get 3 months then nothing.

For loans I can agree. For high school students, not so much.

I just read this article about an interview with Dick Morris, thought this quote was interesting:

"We should drug test every high school student. We should drug test everybody that gets a student loan. Anybody that's using drugs should not get a government student loan."

This guy is insane, I don't know much about him other than that he's constantly on Fox News.

superfluidity

they should drug test the teachers instead.

drugs are for noobs and high school is the best place to find them

dontshackzmii

Many of the most successfuland powerful people in the world do drugs

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drugs are for noobs and high school is the best place to find them

Adrianstalker

Many of the most successfuland powerful people in the world do drugs

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drugs are for noobs and high school is the best place to find them

Adrianstalker

Many of the most successfuland powerful people in the world do drugs

Most of them did not. And do you mean at one point of their lives?

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drugs are for noobs and high school is the best place to find them

bbkkristian

Many of the most successfuland powerful people in the world do drugs

He has smoked weed and admited it. I'm not gonna give you a link because I'm lazy, but google it.

I smoked weed throough out high school, I also got near all A's and am now doing fantastic in College. Most of my friends have the same story.

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Many of the most successfuland powerful people in the world do drugs

xLFTMx

He has smoked weed and admited it. I'm not gonna give you a link because I'm lazy, but google it.

I smoked weed throough out high school, I also got near all A's and am now doing fantastic in College. Most of my friends have the same story.

But you said "do" drugs as in the Present tense and they are currently doing it which baffled me. Its pretty hard to see nation leaders doing drugs. Very hard.

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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Could you link that to back it up? Does Obama do drugs?bbkkristian

He has smoked weed and admited it. I'm not gonna give you a link because I'm lazy, but google it.

I smoked weed throough out high school, I also got near all A's and am now doing fantastic in College. Most of my friends have the same story.

I actually said "has" not "does."

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="xLFTMx"] Okay... But That still wont convince me ever to do it. But you said "do" drugs as in the Present tense and they are currently doing it which baffled me. Its pretty hard to see nation leaders doing drugs. Very hard.xLFTMx

I actually said "has" not "does."

Many of the most successfuland powerful people in the world do drugs

Adrianstalker

I was talking about this. ^^