Dad Calls Son's School From Iraq, Son Get Suspended

A Dad serving in Iraq calls his son during the school day where they have a strict ban on cell phones and the son gets suspended.

The part that makes this more interesting is that the parents already told the school the father may be calling, I quote.....

"The odd part is that the father had apparently made an arrangement in advance with the assistant principal to allow his sons to receive calls from him. "He had spoken with Mr. Fletcher," said Pat Hill, the boys' mother. "He thought there was an agreement understood that if he called either Joshua or Brandon at school, that everything was fine." "

This one is pretty simple. The school has a strict policy on phones so any talking is against the rules and he should have been punished. You can't make an exception for this because then you're showing special treatment. It's a shame that this mother is turning this into a "support the troops" issue. The assistant principal should be suspended without pay for agreeing with this and the mother should focus on more important things.

Knowledge is power!

so the assistant principal messed up and bent the rules when he shouldn't have, and regardless of who his dad is the kid got suspended, equality is being enforced in a school and an example has been made of, the suspension is one day and the fact you throw "iraq" into the title is misleading. You are trying to make a thread something that it isn't and turning a small case into a large issue.

A Dad serving in Iraq calls his son during the school day where they have a strict ban on cell phones and the son gets suspended.

The part that makes this more interesting is that the parents already told the school the father may be calling, I quote.....

"The odd part is that the father had apparently made an arrangement in advance with the assistant principal to allow his sons to receive calls from him. "He had spoken with Mr. Fletcher," said Pat Hill, the boys' mother. "He thought there was an agreement understood that if he called either Joshua or Brandon at school, that everything was fine." "

This one is pretty simple. The school has a strict policy on phones so any talking is against the rules and he should have been punished. You can't make an exception for this because then you're showing special treatment. It's a shame that this mother is turning this into a "support the troops" issue. The assistant principal should be suspended without pay for agreeing with this and the mother should focus on more important things.

Knowledge is power!

Jaysonguy

i think i would be a little leaniant on that since his dad is kind of protecting our freedom...

The problem is the assistant pricipal, one of the highest authority figures in the school, made an exception and granted permission for him to speak to his father on his cell phone.

The student shouldn't be suspended, the assistant pricipal should be in trouble.

The problem is the assistant pricipal, one of the highest authority figures in the school, made an exception and granted permission for him to speak to his father on his cell phone.

The student shouldn't be suspended, the assistant pricipal should be in trouble.

cametall

I agree.

Really. I find these threads amusing and not so simple.

I was born in America.. that means I have to follow rules that I didn't agree to simply because I was born here. It's like working for an orginization that practices policies I don't support. Completely idiotic, yet people do it anyways.

[QUOTE="cametall"]

The problem is the assistant pricipal, one of the highest authority figures in the school, made an exception and granted permission for him to speak to his father on his cell phone.

The student shouldn't be suspended, the assistant pricipal should be in trouble.

dave123321

I agree.

Well, if permission for the phone call was already granted in advance, then there should not have been a problem.

I honestly don't know which side of the story I should believe.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cametall"]

The problem is the assistant pricipal, one of the highest authority figures in the school, made an exception and granted permission for him to speak to his father on his cell phone.

The student shouldn't be suspended, the assistant pricipal should be in trouble.

Jandurin

I agree.

Well, yeah it is awesome, but he still gets 0s on any assignments that day.

Well, yeah it is awesome, but he still gets 0s on any assignments that day.cametall

I'm 100% sure that in this situation, his teachers will allow him to "make-up" the assignments. Or even just waive them.

The cellphone rule in american school is the stupidest thing ever. My sister got a four hour detention because her phone rang during class.Azurr

detentions are an empty threat. nothing can be done if you don't go to them. your sister is (censored for the sake of keeping my account on gamespot)

The cellphone rule in american school is the stupidest thing ever. My sister got a four hour detention because her phone rang during class.Azurr

The school has no control over them, and I think they should be restricted, personally.

The cellphone rule in american school is the stupidest thing ever. My sister got a four hour detention because her phone rang during class.Azurr

If it really was the only time when the dad could call his son, like the article said, then I don't see what the problem is with letting him take the call.WildLIkeChild

Because it goes against school policy and you're not supposed to do it.

The family weighs the consequences, either you don't take the call or you do and get suspended. That's how life works. If it's important you take the call and suffer the punishment.

In this country everyone wants to do what they want whenever they want with no consequences. The second they're stopped they find the first excuse.

It's just a shame that the troops get brought into this discussion.

His dad is doing a job where his son may not hear from him again. If you don't let a kid take a call from his dad the only time he can, and his dad gets killed, how would you feel?

Also, the person who said that phones could be used for illegal things, so can a pen and paper, our voices, our hands, computers, ect..

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"]If it really was the only time when the dad could call his son, like the article said, then I don't see what the problem is with letting him take the call.Jaysonguy

Because it goes against school policy and you're not supposed to do it.

The family weighs the consequences, either you don't take the call or you do and get suspended. That's how life works. If it's important you take the call and suffer the punishment.

In this country everyone wants to do what they want whenever they want with no consequences. The second they're stopped they find the first excuse.

It's just a shame that the troops get brought into this discussion.

Also, the person who said that phones could be used for illegal things, so can a pen and paper, our voices, our hands, computers, ect.. WildLIkeChild

That's ridiculous. Like it really hurt anything to let this kid talk to his father. If the assistant principal granted permission, they have no right to punish the child.SmashBrosLegend

Unless the assistant principal had both the authority and the kid had it in writing.

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"]If it really was the only time when the dad could call his son, like the article said, then I don't see what the problem is with letting him take the call.Jaysonguy

Because it goes against school policy and you're not supposed to do it.

The family weighs the consequences, either you don't take the call or you do and get suspended. That's how life works. If it's important you take the call and suffer the punishment.

In this country everyone wants to do what they want whenever they want with no consequences. The second they're stopped they find the first excuse.

It's just a shame that the troops get brought into this discussion.

If an agreement was made, which it said they had already talked it over, then no matter what the school policy, he should of been allowed to make the call.

And dont even go with the whole, "everyone wants to do what they want", this kids father is in Iraq risking his life. Youd be probably saying a different story if he kid wasnt allowed the call and the father died the next day. In a situation like this were it could possibly be the last time he could ever talk to his father again, then it should be allowed. Anyone who thinks other wise is just cold hearted.

The whole problem here is that the child was granted permission to do it by a high-ranking authority figure and was still punished.SmashBrosLegend

No, they write it on a peice of paper and hand it to the person when they see them. It's not that hard to get notes around.

If something illegal is going to happen, restricting cellphones won't stop it, and won't make it harder really.

and won't make it harder really.WildLIkeChild

What if it's someone who doesn't go to the school.

The key word here is 'apparently'. "Apparently' there was an agreement.

Either way, he should be suspended for breaking the rules. Where does it end if there are exceptions?

"My mom is in the hospital having major surgery and might only be able to call me during school hours. If I don't get to answer my phone then I might not ever talk to her again."

"If I don't get ahold of my "friend" by 2 PM, I'll never be able to figure out where to meet him after school as his job starts at 2:30, and if I don't get my fix, I just might die"

:cry:

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"] and won't make it harder really.Jandurin

What if it's someone who doesn't go to the school.

Then the person will just go to the other persons house after school? Or just wait until after school to use their phone? Why would someone who didn't go to that school talk to the person while they were in school, not like they could do anything then anyways. They would just wait until after class and then talk.

Also, to frag:

More than likely, if you're mom is having a major surgery, you're going to take the day off school to be there if it's a risky procedure. This kids dad is in Iraq, he can't exactly take the day off to be with his dad, now can he?

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"]If it really was the only time when the dad could call his son, like the article said, then I don't see what the problem is with letting him take the call.Jaysonguy

Because it goes against school policy and you're not supposed to do it.

The family weighs the consequences, either you don't take the call or you do and get suspended. That's how life works. If it's important you take the call and suffer the punishment.

In this country everyone wants to do what they want whenever they want with no consequences. The second they're stopped they find the first excuse.

It's just a shame that the troops get brought into this discussion.

I agree that he should not be an exception to the rule , but if he did get permission from the vice principle then he did nothing wrong and should not be punished.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"] and won't make it harder really.WildLIkeChild

What if it's someone who doesn't go to the school.

Then the person will just go to the other persons house after school? Or just wait until after school to use their phone? Why would someone who didn't go to that school talk to the person while they were in school, not like they could do anything then anyways. They would just wait until after class and then talk.

His dad is doing a job where his son may not hear from him again. If you don't let a kid take a call from his dad the only time he can, and his dad gets killed, how would you feel?

WildLIkeChild

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]The whole problem here is that the child was granted permission to do it by a high-ranking authority figure and was still punished.Jandurin

This kids dad is in Iraq, he can't exactly take the day off to be with his dad, now can he?WildLIkeChild

They either arrange it before hand or do it after. It doesn't make it harder, and it won't stop illegal activities. My brother never had a cell phone, and he never had a problem getting drugs.WildLIkeChild

What if the only way to get your drugs was to skip out of school, and you only found out by contacting teh dealer?

The severity of the punishment is not the point. It's the fact that he was punished for doing something that he was granted permission to do.SmashBrosLegend

Deejay

I guess you wont be going in the Forces ,lol

[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"]

His dad is doing a job where his son may not hear from him again. If you don't let a kid take a call from his dad the only time he can, and his dad gets killed, how would you feel?

DeeJayInphinity

You're right, I forget that humans are heartless sometimes.

I mean, it's not like there are people where the military is the only option. Or that realized, if I take this job, I can only call my kid at school.

Yeah, keep the kid from communicating with his dad. His dad gets killed, not our problem, right? Doesn't affect us in anyway, so why should it matter, rules are more important to a kid than his father.

What if the only way to get your drugs was to skip out of school, and you only found out by contacting teh dealer?

Jandurin

I'm confused about what you're asking.

I'm also confused about why not being able to use a cellphone in class matters if you're skipping.

You're right, I forget that humans are heartless sometimes.

I mean, it's not like there are people where the military is the only option. Or that realized, if I take this job, I can only call my kid at school.

Yeah, keep the kid from communicating with his dad. His dad gets killed, not our problem, right? Doesn't affect us in anyway, so why should it matter, rules are more important to a kid than his father.

WildLIkeChild

I'm also confused about why not being able to use a cellphone in class matters if you're skipping.WildLIkeChild

Also, to frag:

More than likely, if you're mom is having a major surgery, you're going to take the day off school to be there if it's a risky procedure. This kids dad is in Iraq, he can't exactly take the day off to be with his dad, now can he?

WildLIkeChild

A Dad serving in Iraq calls his son during the school day where they have a strict ban on cell phones and the son gets suspended.

The part that makes this more interesting is that the parents already told the school the father may be calling, I quote.....

"The odd part is that the father had apparently made an arrangement in advance with the assistant principal to allow his sons to receive calls from him. "He had spoken with Mr. Fletcher," said Pat Hill, the boys' mother. "He thought there was an agreement understood that if he called either Joshua or Brandon at school, that everything was fine." "

This one is pretty simple. The school has a strict policy on phones so any talking is against the rules and he should have been punished. You can't make an exception for this because then you're showing special treatment. It's a shame that this mother is turning this into a "support the troops" issue. The assistant principal should be suspended without pay for agreeing with this and the mother should focus on more important things.

Knowledge is power!

Jaysonguy

I agree. If he wanted to talk to his dad, he should have left the school grounds.