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#51 JML897
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Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...Darth-Caedus

I don't understand why so many people say something similar to this...it's like they're looking for ways to complain about the movie, but can't think of anything else to say. It's a pointless argument to make, since Heath Ledger is in the movie.

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#52 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SilentSoprano

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?
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#53 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.super_mario_128

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?

I'm not even sure if I should tell you, because you'll just shoot me down but I will. Children of Men is my favorite, it's one of the few movies i can watch more than once.

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#54 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...JML897

I don't understand why so many people say something similar to this...it's like they're looking for ways to complain about the movie, but can't think of anything else to say. It's a pointless argument to make, since Heath Ledger is in the movie.



They say that to exemplify the less-than-amazing quality acting provided by Aaron Eckhart and Christian Bale. I mean they did a decent job, but their roles and acting were forgettable.
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#55 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SilentSoprano

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?

I'm not even sure if I should tell you, because you'll just shoot me down but I will. Children of Men is my favorite, it's one of the few movies i can watch more than once.

I won't shoot you down for two reasons:

I haven't seen it and what you like is opinionated. I'd like to add that I could have said, "I can no longer take you seriously for liking that movie", but I didn't at the risk of being silly. I can understand you not liking TDK, but it's all opinion dude...

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#56 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SilentSoprano

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?

I'm not even sure if I should tell you, because you'll just shoot me down but I will. Children of Men is my favorite, it's one of the few movies i can watch more than once.

...anyone who shoots you down for that being your favorite film would need to get their heads checked lol, great film.

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#57 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="ff3138"]

Imho, Die Hard is an amazing movie

legolasxbow

Imho, Dark Knight was an amazing movie... ;)

Imho Dark Hard was an amazing movies

yeah especially when the girl started to...oh wait you were kidding :lol:

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#58 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...Darth-Caedus
Really? Take out Al pacino and scarface is average at best, take out Russle crowe and gladiator is average at best.
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#59 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.super_mario_128

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?

I'm not even sure if I should tell you, because you'll just shoot me down but I will. Children of Men is my favorite, it's one of the few movies i can watch more than once.

I won't shoot you down for two reasons:

I haven't seen it and what you like is opinionated. I'd like to add that I could have said, "I can no longer take you seriously for liking that movie", but I didn't at the risk of being silly. I can understand you not liking TDK, but it's all opinion dude...

Yea I know man, thats why I said "everyone is entitled to their own opinion", i was kind of half joking when I said I can't take those people seriously. I'm just so tired of everyone acting like it's the second coming of Christ. By the way, you should really see that movie, it's superb, IMO.:D

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I haven't seen it
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SaintLeonidas

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?

I'm not even sure if I should tell you, because you'll just shoot me down but I will. Children of Men is my favorite, it's one of the few movies i can watch more than once.

...anyone who shoots you down for that being your favorite film would need to get their heads checked lol, great film.

Haha yea, Clive Owen and Michael Caine= awesome.

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#62 sparkypants
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Haha yea, Clive Owen and Michael Caine= awesome.

SilentSoprano

With the soprano avitar and name and the bada bing in the sig I would have though godfellas(thats my favorite btw)

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#63 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SilentSoprano

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Out of curiosity, what's your favourite movie?

I'm not even sure if I should tell you, because you'll just shoot me down but I will. Children of Men is my favorite, it's one of the few movies i can watch more than once.

...anyone who shoots you down for that being your favorite film would need to get their heads checked lol, great film.

Haha yea, Clive Owen and Michael Caine= awesome.

well...Caine+anything=awesome. But it really is great, acting, story and especially cinematography. The long track scenes are stunning.

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#64 Nerd_Man
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Is this film overrated? I dunno... Maybe I guess? waited for this movie forever, saying no other movie before it is worth seeing, and when the time got closer, people camped out for the film.... You should ask them and see if the anticipated truly paid off for them or not.

Now for me, I came in the film not expecting too much. Sure I knew how everyone said how awesome the film was - but I just didn't quite understand why people were saying that. I didn't understand the hype that everyone seemed to have.
But I went to go see it anyways.
Now that I have seen it, I can agree with most people, that this movie is absolutely amazing, and delivered in almost every way.

I think it is up there with WALL-E for being the best movies of the year.

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#65 super_mario_128
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Yea I know man, thats why I said "everyone is entitled to their own opinion", i was kind of half joking when I said I can't take those people seriously. I'm just so tired of everyone acting like it's the second coming of Christ. By the way, you should really see that movie, it's superb, IMO.:D

SilentSoprano
Heh, fair enough. >.> As for CoM, I've got many people telling me I should see this film and that film. I'll just put it on the list... :P
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#66 hiphops_savior
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This movie is a superhero classic, along with Ironman, Superman (the ones with Christopher Reeves), The Tim Burton's Batman, and Spiderman.
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#67 Matt-4542
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SilentSoprano

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Well, if it makes any difference my favorite movie was The Crow untill I saw this?
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#68 senses_blank
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i think it was the best superhero movie ever.....nuff said
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#69 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.Matt-4542

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Well, if it makes any difference my favorite movie was The Crow untill I saw this?

I've never seen that movie, but you have your own opinion. I was kind of half joking when I said I can't take people seriously. What's the Crow about?

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#70 Kuhu
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I definitely think it was a great film and the best superhero film out yet.

However we all know when it comes to popularity on these forums...

Popularity = Overrated

:/

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#71 Matt-4542
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[QUOTE="Matt-4542"][QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="Matt-4542"]I think it was an amazing film. Best movie Ive ever seen.SilentSoprano

You and 5 million other people. Sorry, I can't take anyone who says this is their favorite movie seriously. But your entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

Well, if it makes any difference my favorite movie was The Crow untill I saw this?

I've never seen that movie, but you have your own opinion. I was kind of half joking when I said I can't take people seriously. What's the Crow about?

Engaged couple gets murdered for standing up to a gang. 1 year later the man comes back with his spirit transfered by a crow and takes revenge on the gang.
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#72 Saturos3091
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I definitely think it was a great film and the best superhero film out yet.

However we all know when it comes to popularity on these forums...

Popularity = Overrated

:/

Kuhu


While I think it was a great movie..,

No, personal opinions lead to the term overrated. There's at least one person who thinks any specific movie is underrated or overrated (and that doesn't apply to just movies either).
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#73 ernie1989
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I would have to watch the film again in order to properly say something about it -- I enjoyed it a whole lot, but I really don't think I'm going to enjoy it as much after a couple more viewings. Films I enjoy a whole lot the first time are usually the ones I end up getting sick of quickest and the films I end up loving the most are the ones I don't end up liking the first time, but end up leaving a mark on my mind that would eventually get me to watch it again.
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#74 especensor
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Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...Darth-Caedus
totally. i mean the joker is freaking amazing. no ones gonna argue with anyone that says heath ledger as the joker rocks. but the rest of the stuff like how all batman can do is growl is beyond me. just speak normally!!
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#75 Anti-Venom
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what the **** are guys talkin about? This movie kicked major ass.
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#76 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...especensor
totally. i mean the joker is freaking amazing. no ones gonna argue with anyone that says heath ledger as the joker rocks. but the rest of the stuff like how all batman can do is growl is beyond me. just speak normally!!

arggh, im getting sick of the people who mention his voice...speak normal...are you kidding, every one if Gotham knows who Bruce Wayne is, him more then any superhero needs to hide his voice, not to mention when he puts on that suit not only his appearance changes, but so does his identity, he needs to have that dark voice to go along with his image, to strike fear into his enemies...Im getting sick of explaining this, and I feel the need to because anyone who mentions it needs to be talked to.

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#77 A_Tarkovsky
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That's a pretty lame argument, you know.

"It's great, but it's not THAT great."

BS. Give us an actual argument.

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#78 istylee
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It's one of the best imo.
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[QUOTE="especensor"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...SaintLeonidas

totally. i mean the joker is freaking amazing. no ones gonna argue with anyone that says heath ledger as the joker rocks. but the rest of the stuff like how all batman can do is growl is beyond me. just speak normally!!

arggh, im getting sick of the people who mention his voice...speak normal...are you kidding, every one if Gotham knows who Bruce Wayne is, him more then any superhero needs to hide his voice, not to mention when he puts on that suit not only his appearance changes, but so does his identity, he needs to have that dark voice to go along with his image, to strike fear into his enemies...Im getting sick of explaining this, and I feel the need to because anyone who mentions it needs to be talked to.

just why do they have to take it so seriously though. its not that big a deal. its a movie. the whole thing is based on a ficticious comic book character. so why do they have to make it so realistic that he can't even talk with his regular voice without being found out. not to mention speaking through that growl can't be good for christian bale's voice.
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#80 munu9
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I thought it was excellent. I expected it to be very good. (not the greatest ever) And I got one of the best movies I've ever seen. Even while watching, I tried to find flaws and I found almost none.
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#81 moptopskate
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Compared to the Other batman films it is amazing

Compared to most superhero movies it is amazing

Compared to the greatest films of all time it is pretty good.

honkyjoe

Definitely not. I think compared to the greatest films of all time it is terrible.

The highlight of the movie was Heath Ledger's acting.

Think about it, without Heath the movie would be nothing.

This movie is definitely overrated just like all superhero movies.

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#82 JamesMcG92
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I think the movie was brilliant. Beat Batman Begins anyway and this is comin from the mouth of a guy who HATES guys running around with pointy ears and a cape...So think about that...Lol. But yeah the MAIN highlight of the movie was Heath Ledger's acting as the Joker. If he hadn't had been the Joker then obviously everyone would just be like "Ah, well, another Batman movie...What do you expect?" But it was something SPECIAL, I believe.
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#83 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

[QUOTE="especensor"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...especensor

totally. i mean the joker is freaking amazing. no ones gonna argue with anyone that says heath ledger as the joker rocks. but the rest of the stuff like how all batman can do is growl is beyond me. just speak normally!!

arggh, im getting sick of the people who mention his voice...speak normal...are you kidding, every one if Gotham knows who Bruce Wayne is, him more then any superhero needs to hide his voice, not to mention when he puts on that suit not only his appearance changes, but so does his identity, he needs to have that dark voice to go along with his image, to strike fear into his enemies...Im getting sick of explaining this, and I feel the need to because anyone who mentions it needs to be talked to.

just why do they have to take it so seriously though. its not that big a deal. its a movie. the whole thing is based on a ficticious comic book character. so why do they have to make it so realistic that he can't even talk with his regular voice without being found out. not to mention speaking through that growl can't be good for christian bale's voice.

is this a serious question? are you saying you have a problem with films being realistic? I mean honestly. Also it wasnt all Bales voice, yahoo.com reported today Nolan and sound editors actually changed his voices frequency to help give it a different tone.

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#84 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]

Compared to the Other batman films it is amazing

Compared to most superhero movies it is amazing

Compared to the greatest films of all time it is pretty good.

moptopskate

Definitely not. I think compared to the greatest films of all time it is terrible.

The highlight of the movie was Heath Ledger's acting.

Think about it, without Heath the movie would be nothing.

This movie is definitely overrated just like all superhero movies.

like someone already said, take every great film out there and remove the lead performance and it becomes average, one thing that makes a film great is it performance, people act like they arent part of the film, but they are, they make it complete, take a piece of it out and the film isnt all it should or could be. Plus without him this film was still very good.

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#85 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]

Compared to the Other batman films it is amazing

Compared to most superhero movies it is amazing

Compared to the greatest films of all time it is pretty good.

moptopskate

Definitely not. I think compared to the greatest films of all time it is terrible.

The highlight of the movie was Heath Ledger's acting.

Think about it, without Heath the movie would be nothing.

This movie is definitely overrated just like all superhero movies.

Name 20 movies that are better then Dark Knight.

I dare you...

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I thought Dark Knight was really good but best movie ever? Hell no! I wouldnt even call it the best film of the year. Problem is people don't see the less popular films and tend to go for what they know. I explore and see more films each year than most people do so while I enjoyed the dark knight it didnt stand out as much as others did.
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#87 Anti-Venom
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I thought Dark Knight was really good but best movie ever? Hell no! I wouldnt even call it the best film of the year. Problem is people don't see the less popular films and tend to go for what they know. I explore and see more films each year than most people do so while I enjoyed the dark knight it didnt stand out as much as others did. Film-Guy

give some examples...

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#88 Aft3rsh0ck89
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I thought it was terrific, but if people think it was overated than thats up to them. No movie can please everybody. Its kind of wierd to say.."if it wasn't for Heath Ledger this movie would have been average"..well yeah if you got rid of him you would be getting rid of a great performance and the main villian of the movie. Thats like saying if not for Darth Vader ESB would have been average..no duh.

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It wasn't meant to be the friggin god of movies.
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#90 Jazz_Fan
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Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...Darth-Caedus

Um he played the most important role of the movie of course it would suck without the joker.

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#91 SlashDementia3
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I didn't really like it. Joker and Two-Face were great, Batman was boring and sounded like he had lung cancer. Sure there were great parts, but I just found most of it extremely boring.
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Yeah, its overrated, take out heath ledger and its average at best...Jazz_Fan

Um he played the most important role of the movie of course it would suck without the joker.

I think he meant take Heath Ledger out as the actor, not the character... It works either way though, without Heath Ledger in the role I guarantee you a lot of people wouldn't be making a fuss over the character. Heath Ledger made the role his bee-yatch and played it perfectly; I don't think any actor alive could have played it as well as that.

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#93 LJS9502_basic
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No it's not. I expected it to be but after viewing it...no, it deserves the praise.
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#94 Funky_Llama
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It's not overrated! :cry: I loved every second!
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#95 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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Well since i watched all the batman movies and series , you could say im a big fan [ no i didnt read the comics ] ...i remember seeing batman begins and my god it was amazing and the music just made it perfect! even if heath ledger or the joker wasnt on the dark knight , i'll still see it but well they putted the biggest and best villians so yeah i expected it to be really good and well i saw the dark knight [ 3 times ] i gotta say....i never get bored from seeing this film and no batman's voice dosnt bother me as i liked it from batman begins so i knew what i was going to expect from his voice...the movie was amazing , one of the best movies i saw in my life....the acting , music ,direction everything was simply perfect and fantastic....it also had alot of adrenaline(sp?) i mean everything is going on and you dont expect whats going to happen next so yeah it was intense and tooo good for a superhero movie.


yes i watched many films , one of my fav's are


-The godfather 1,2,3

-Once upon a time in america

-Forrest Gump

-Casino

-Saving Private Rayan

- Goodfellas

-The Professional

And now The Dark Knight. awesome performances , beautiful and epic music ....a great and epic ending[spoiler] epic as in how the batman made that sacrifice and stayed true to what he is...The Dark knight , i mean he is what gotham wants him to be , not to mention Gary oldman wrapped it up perfectly with the beautiful music by Hans Zimmer & James Edward Newton [/spoiler] , it explained the films name too:P

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#96 AirGuitarist87
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I thought it was a fantastic film. However, like with 300, people are taking one-liners from it and constantly throwing them around.
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#97 ff3138
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I thought it was a fantastic film. However, like with 300, people are taking one-liners from it and constantly throwing them around.AirGuitarist87

300 is an amazing movie that easily beats this in my opinion. I just got bored through out the movie. Two-Face, while yes important to the movie, seemed pretty pointless. The Joker....I feel kinda obligated to say he was amazing. I did think he played a very good Joker, I just wasn't interested in him.

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#98 taj7575
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Well what did you go in expecting? The greatest movie ever with the greatests effects ever with the greatest acting ever (Maybe it got this) with the greatest action scenes ever and the greatest ending ever?

I just go into movies and expect an average movie, because we really shouldn't make assumptions like that... Then I just appreciate 'em a lot more.

criinok

^ this, I totally agree with you.

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#99 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Not really, I thought it was amazing...not just as a superhero movie, but as a movie in it's own right.
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#100 Thechaninator
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[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]I thought it was a fantastic film. However, like with 300, people are taking one-liners from it and constantly throwing them around.ff3138

300 is an amazing movie that easily beats this in my opinion. I just got bored through out the movie. Two-Face, while yes important to the movie, seemed pretty pointless. The Joker....I feel kinda obligated to say he was amazing. I did think he played a very good Joker, I just wasn't interested in him.

I am sorry but the Dark Knight has SOOO much more merit as a movie than 300.

300 had very little story and basically rode on slow-mo action sequences. It wasn't a BAD movie by any means, but as a film it was nothing spectacular.

The Dark Knight however had great acting all around (When I saw the polic chief my jaw dropped because he was EXACTLY LIKE how I had remembered him from the old cartoons. I never got around to watching Batman Begins), interesting characters including my new all-time fav villain, great camera-work, a great story with interesting themes and messages hidden within.

Yes your opinion of liking 300 more is completely valid and I won't argue that, but I will tell you now 300 was the pointless film not The Dark Knight.