Death sentance- A good idea?

If someone murdered someone, do you think they should be killed for what they have done? First, when you are sentanced to death, well in America anyway, ( I don't know what other countries do) you are not hung or put in an electric chair. You are injected with a lethal dose of drugs which painlesslykills you very quickly although there is some controversy. For more information go to: www.wikipedia.org/wiki/deathrow Killing, someone I think is a waste of a human even if they killed a human. you should be able tochoose between life in prison or death. You could put the person to work, at a place heavily guarded and were they can't hurt anyone. Like at a shoe factory. What do you think?

As long as they are put to work to earn their keep, i think they should have the choice. I think it costs the gov't around 60k to keep each person in jail for a year. I say legalize marijuana and make them work the fields :)

Some people aren't worth keeping alive.Mumbles527

Agreed.

Some people aren't worth keeping alive.Mumbles527

That, and it costs too much compared to their worth.

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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BlueTimber

I don't see it as killing I see it as punishment.

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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BlueTimber

[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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Mumbles527

No, your reasons.

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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BlueTimber

You are the one who sounds 10 years old. The goverment should have the complete right to punish someone with death if they themselves killed someone. Are you saying that a serial killer who murdered hundreds of people should live? I sure as hell don't think so.

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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BlueTimber

Gee, having an opinion was so last week. Childish? The only thing that is childish is your arguement.

[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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Mumbles527

No one here is 14, I belive that it is needed to enforce some laws, and besides if someone isn't worth keeping alive and they did something bad, why should they?

[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

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Evilmaster101

You are the one who sounds 10 years old. The goverment should have the complete right to punish someone with death if they themselves killed someone. Are you saying that a serial killer who murdered hundreds of people should live? I sure as hell don't think so.

Not for the reasons you may think. I don't think we should go easy on them, but once you murder a single person, and it's later discovered they were innocent? Well ****.

Plus, I just think that is giving too much power to the goverment. It's barbaric. An eye for an eye? Last time I checked I lived in America, not the middle east where religion is law. I could have sworn we were more civilized.

Like said before, prison can be a much worst punishment than death. I mean they are gonna die either way, so in the grand scheme of things punishing them while alive is a worst punishment. Not torture, but, whatever.

[QUOTE="Evilmaster101"][QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

Wow, so much childish hate. I hate this board sometimes, can't wait til I get unbanned at my other. Everyone here is freaking 14.

BlueTimber

You are the one who sounds 10 years old. The goverment should have the complete right to punish someone with death if they themselves killed someone. Are you saying that a serial killer who murdered hundreds of people should live? I sure as hell don't think so.

Not for the reasons you may think. I don't think we should go easy on them, but once you murder a single person, and it's later discovered they were innocent? Well ****.

That's the reason for a trial and evidence, there is a good amount of time before they are put to trial to gather their evidence.

The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.camreeno360

You can't prevent people from getting angry. Or being drunk and then getting angry. Gang violence and crap like that yea.

The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.camreeno360

[QUOTE="BlueTimber"][QUOTE="Evilmaster101"][QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

Wow, so much childish hate. I hate this board sometimes, can't wait til I get unbanned at my other. Everyone here is freaking 14.

-Karmum-

You are the one who sounds 10 years old. The goverment should have the complete right to punish someone with death if they themselves killed someone. Are you saying that a serial killer who murdered hundreds of people should live? I sure as hell don't think so.

Not for the reasons you may think. I don't think we should go easy on them, but once you murder a single person, and it's later discovered they were innocent? Well ****.

That's the reason for a trial and evidence, there is a good amount of time before they are put to trial to gather their evidence.

Well it's too bad that plenty of people have been found innocent, and later released. I've seen documentaries on it, and hell, Penn and Teller did an episode of it. There are plenty of people in prison who were accused of crimes where we didn't have DNA, who didn't do what they were accused of.

Your "flawless" legal system will willingly, and knowling let a person who killed someone go if the evidence was discovered in a way that is illegal.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.Mumbles527

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.camreeno360

[QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.Mumbles527

Heh, "just bad"? That's how you put it? Someone doesn't rape some girls, and kill a family because he is "just bad". What is "just bad", anyway? You see it as black and white, and that's okay, you're only 14. One day you'll see the world isn't good and bad.

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.BlueTimber

Heh, "just bad"? That's how you put it? Someone doesn't rape some girls, and kill a family because he is "just bad". What is "just bad", anyway? You see it as black and white, and that's okay, you're only 14. One day you'll see the world isn't good and bad.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.Mumbles527

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.camreeno360

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.camreeno360

I'd say mental illness only applies if it's constant, and didn't just occur when they commited the crime. Yea, a person who shoots his wife when he catches her with someone else isn't thinking rationally, but the court won't care.

And psychology is not black and white the way you guys seem to think it is. There are a billion shades of grey.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.Mumbles527

There's a reason people turn out "simply bad." What camareeno's suggesting is that we should be addressing the root causes that lead people to become murderers rather than simply reacting to the murders. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

If you really think these people are born as killers, then we might as well kill them shortly after they're born. A sociopath's brain activity is not the same as a 'normal' person, after all. I don't think I have to explain how grave the consequences of this line of thinking could be.

The death penalty accomplishes nothing at all. It doesn't bring back the victim, and it doesn't prevent murders from occurring in the future. It's nothing more than a tool of revenge.

[QUOTE="BlueTimber"]

The goverment shouldn't have the right to kill it's citizens.

Wow, so much childish hate. I hate this board sometimes, can't wait til I get unbanned at my other. Everyone here is freaking 14.

Evilmaster101

You are the one who sounds 10 years old. The goverment should have the complete right to punish someone with death if they themselves killed someone. Are you saying that a serial killer who murdered hundreds of people should live? I sure as hell don't think so.

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="camreeno360"]The reason people commit murder is because at the time they did it, there was nothing restricting them in their mind to do it. We have to look at it as a mental thing instead of "the person is bad" for doing it. We really have to invest more time looking at the way people think and how things can lead to murder instead of just stamping it as "bad". I'm definately against it.pianist

There's a reason people turn out "simply bad." What camareeno's suggesting is that we should be addressing the root causes that lead people to become murderers rather than simply reacting to the murders. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

If you really think these people are born as killers, then we might as well kill them shortly after they're born. A sociopath's brain activity is not the same as a 'normal' person, after all. I don't think I have to explain how grave the consequences of this line of thinking could be.

The death penalty accomplishes nothing at all. It doesn't bring back the victim, and it doesn't prevent murders from occurring in the future. It's nothing more than a tool of revenge.

I have no problem that it is not a deterrent. I never saw it as a deterent the death penalty is simply the highest punishment the govorment can do to a criminal. I fully support it, and im glad that today a man who raped and mudered a 9 year old girl was sentenced to death.

thats crap, they deserve to die...

we aint got no space for more scumbags here and feeding them too? omg some of the prisoners live better in jail than in the real life they got what the hell is tht! they sould be punished....

and i dont give a **** for what they did what they do if there sons are ill or anything i dont care... they should put their lazyness out and try to work on ANYTHING like the REAL people do, not complain that they worn on the field and tht...

a lot of people do, and theyre happy, they have their money and get a life...

so damn any criminal should be brutally punished....

not being kept alive AND SAFELY IN JAIL...

thats crap, they deserve to die...

we aint got no space for more scumbags here and feeding them too? omg some of the prisoners live better in jail than in the real life they got what the hell is tht! they sould be punished....

Bliind-Guardian

We pay more to execute them then have them in life inprisonment.. Thats why I say it should be life with hard labor.

I agree with pianist we should explore the root of this psychopath instead of point the finger and say this person is evil. But there are few expections like people who kill because they want money and other stuff like thatnintendo_fan675

They aren't really exceptions. Most murders are senseless wastes of life that occurred over trivial things like money, peer pressure, or an inability to control sexual urges. Murderers rationalize their behavior. No person - no matter how good or evil they really are by societal standards - will do something that they believe to be morally repugnant. I could never commit murder. Even if presented with a perfect opportunity to murder someone I hate with no consequences (or even a bonus attached, like payment), I could not bring myself to do it. Why? Because it's morally repugnant to me.

People who do commit first-degree murder have not, for whatever reason, been psychologically moulded to believe murder is unjustifiable. If a person says "murder is not wrong if I stand to gain something by it and will not be caught," that is a sociopathic belief which SHOULD be immediately addressed, because if presented with such an opportunity, that person would likely commit murder.

Criminals are just humans who have not developed a moral code that is necessary to live in a structured society. I believe some people are pre-disposed towards violence, dishonesty, or so forth, but I do not believe any of these people can not become decent citizens if the problem is addressed properly at the right age. Sadly, the longer a person lives with a deviant moral code, the more difficult it is to correct the behavior and beliefs. There are adult criminals in our prisons who are more or less beyond treatment. Our goal should be to prevent people from reaching that stage, because the pro-death penalty crowd is right about one thing - it's an awful waste of society's resources to keep dysfunctional people alive. They can't be trusted to interact morally in the general population, and they generally make poor workers, because they are being forced to work, as opposed to pursuing it for a sense of satisfaction. In short, they will contribute very little to our society.

But does that justify taking their lives? I don't think so. People don't like to think of murderers as victims, and the fanatical pro-death penalty crowd typically views them as wastes of flesh. Reading the news will do that to you - I can't count the number of times I have been sickened to learn what humans are capable of doing to other sentient beings. But there's a difference with me - I'm not so narrow-minded as to believe that a murderer is simply an evil person. A murderer is a misguided person. He or she is a product of his or her environment and psychological conditioning, and if we continue to fail to address the societal circumstances that lead to murder, we will never rid our society of it.

i think therapy or even psychological help for those men would be a waste...

just try to compare how much people that go out of jail really stop commiting crimes... only few, and the ones that keep there word did commit a crime so for me if they did a serious thing that importantly affects an innocent human being deserves to die, not in a way that they give them last meals and painless methods, oh no they should die with that look of suffering in their faces like their victims so they can feel at least for a while what the others feel and the last meal is ridiculous, most of them cant even afford what they ask for...