Death sentance- A good idea?

I have no problem that it is not a deterrent. I never saw it as a deterent the death penalty is simply the highest punishment the govorment can do to a criminal. I fully support it, and im glad that today a man who raped and mudered a 9 year old girl was sentenced to death.

SAURON221

The fact that you are unable to grasp the bigger picture of why crime occurs and how it needs to be addressed is hardly unique. Most people are capable of rationalizing only the reaction to crime, including most politicians. You get a sense of satisfaction from seeing a criminal punished for a horrific act. It's a shame you're too short-sighted to realize that the rape of that little girl could be avoided if we as a society spent more effort on addressing the causes of crime than we did on punishing it.

if you kill someone in cold blood, you dont deserve to live.

by my standards, if someone murders someone in cold blood without some provocation, they are no longer human

i think therapy or even psychological help for those men would be a waste...

just try to compare how much people that go out of jail really stop commiting crimes... only few, and the ones that keep there word did commit a crime so for me if they did a serious thing that importantly affects an innocent human being deserves to die, not in a way that they give them last meals and painless methods, oh no they should die with that look of suffering in their faces like their victims so they can feel at least for a while what the others feel and the last meal is ridiculous, most of them cant even afford what they ask for...

Bliind-Guardian

Of course it would be a waste, because it should have been provided when these 'men' were blank templates - children. Again, your myopic views on the nature of crime will serve no benefit to society, because they provide no incentive at all to eliminate problems, only punish them when they do occur.

Intelligent people have the foresight to predict problems. Stupid people merely react to problems after they become problems.

[QUOTE="SAURON221"]

I have no problem that it is not a deterrent. I never saw it as a deterent the death penalty is simply the highest punishment the govorment can do to a criminal. I fully support it, and im glad that today a man who raped and mudered a 9 year old girl was sentenced to death.

pianist

The fact that you are unable to grasp the bigger picture of why crime occurs and how it needs to be addressed is hardly unique. Most people are capable of rationalizing only the reaction to crime, including most politicians. You get a sense of satisfaction from seeing a criminal punished for a horrific act. It's a shame you're too short-sighted to realize that the rape of that little girl could be avoided if we as a society spent more effort on addressing the causes of crime than we did on punishing it.

You fail to see what I was saying. I was stating that the death penalty in my eyes is not a deterrent, but simply a punishment. I support research into why these crimes are committedand how to prevent them, but I still support the death penalty. An yesm, I do feel better when someone who has done such a horrific act as raping and murdering a 9 year old girl gets the death penalty. As much as I wish that crime did not occur, im happy to see that punishment is carried out on the on who committed it.

and you should know society will ONLY react to fear...

no one ever tries to see things the right way, that way it will never work, so without fear we will have activists, criminals, murderers, people who defy the REAL law by saying they act in the name of peace... and making noice in out sctreets isnt peace...

killing wont show were childish, it will show we dont care for the feelings of sick people and that they dont deserve even a sparkle of life...

You fail to see what I was saying. I was stating that the death penalty in my eyes is not a deterrent, but simply a punishment. I support research into why these crimes are committedand how to prevent them, but I still support the death penalty. An yesm, I do feel better when someone who has done such a horrific act as raping and murdering a 9 year old girl gets the death penalty. As much as I wish that crime did not occur, im happy to see that punishment is carried out on the on who committed it.

SAURON221

You support research into crime prevention in the same way that George Bush supports environmental protection. You say 'it's a good idea' but are unwilling to do what's necessary to make it a reality.

It's a well-published fact that the death penalty is more expensive than life imprisonment on account of legal expenses. Thus I submit that we should abolish the death penalty, keep these scummy people alive, and sink all the money that we waste on legal expenses for death row inmates into crime prevention research, starting with obligatory parenthood classes for all new parents. You can usually tell from a young age which kids are turning into good citizens and which ones are turning into sociopaths. The problem is that the parents do nothing at all to address sociopathic behavior (in fact, certain especially awful parents even condone it), often because they don't have the parenting skills to address the problem themselves, nor the financial resources to seek professional solutions.

Why the hell do we let this obvious problem continue? We are BREEDING criminals, right under our noses, and doing nothing at all to prevent it from happening. Idiocy... plain and simple.

[QUOTE="SAURON221"]

You fail to see what I was saying. I was stating that the death penalty in my eyes is not a deterrent, but simply a punishment. I support research into why these crimes are committedand how to prevent them, but I still support the death penalty. An yesm, I do feel better when someone who has done such a horrific act as raping and murdering a 9 year old girl gets the death penalty. As much as I wish that crime did not occur, im happy to see that punishment is carried out on the on who committed it.

pianist

You support research into crime prevention in the same way that George Bush supports environmental protection. You say 'it's a good idea' but are unwilling to do what's necessary to make it a reality.

It's a well-published fact that the death penalty is more expensive than life imprisonment on account of legal expenses. Thus I submit that we should abolish the death penalty, keep these scummy people alive, and sink all the money that we waste on legal expenses for death row inmates into crime prevention research, starting with obligatory parenthood classes for all new parents. You can usually tell from a young age which kids are turning into good citizens and which ones are turning into sociopaths. The problem is that the parents do nothing at all to address sociopathic behavior (in fact, certain especially awful parents even condone it), often because they don't have the parenting skills to address the problem themselves, nor the financial resources to seek professional solutions.

Why the hell do we let this obvious problem continue? We are BREEDING criminals, right under our noses, and doing nothing at all to prevent it from happening. Idiocy... plain and simple.

I agree with you one research but not with abolishing the death penalty. We will have to find the money some where else.

and you should know society will ONLY react to fear...

Bliind-Guardian

That's because society is largely comprised of unintelligent people. Yes, society generally only reacts to fear. SHOULD it be that way? Of course not.

Even an idiot will realize that his boat will sink if it's on a collision course with a glacier, and he'll take measures to avoid the collision. He won't wait until the disaster actually happens, because he understands the risk. The problem with crime is that most people don't understand the risk. It's too subtle. They don't even see the sociopathic behavior in their own children, nor realize that their failure to instill an acceptable moral code in their children is the root of the terrible stories they hear on the news.

I agree with you one research but not with abolishing the death penalty. We will have to find the money some where else.

SAURON221

Fine. There are plenty of other worthless wastes of money from which to fund such programs. But the real question is this - why would you cut into unrelated programs when there are funds being wasted on a related program? Again, the death penalty accomplishes nothing at all. So which would be a better use of the money? Killing five murderers after a lengthy appeals process, or preventing fifty high risk kids from becoming murderers through proactive parenting programs and intervention?

Granted, I'm just pulling numbers out of my *** here... but frankly, given the enormous expenses involved in executing a single capital defendant, I think it's a safe bet to assume we could prevent more crime with that same money than we could punish.