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#1 CyperWingdAngel
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what are morals in your opinion. If a lady steals a purse but see doesn't personally believe what she did was wrong is what she did immoral ? Could animals do immoral things if they ?.
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#2 BiancaDK
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Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethics
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A set of standards by which one lives by? :|

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Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethicsBiancaDK
Why are you so wise, and philosophical, and..stuff?
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i define morals by what the reasonable person would consider morality. The reasonable person being someone who has is same age and gender as myself.
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#6 tzar3
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Standards, or code of ethics that people go by. It can also restrict you from certain things.

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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethicsWest-Coast-G
Why are you so wise, and philosophical, and..stuff?

ugly duckling syndrome
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[QUOTE="West-Coast-G"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethicsBiancaDK
Why are you so wise, and philosophical, and..stuff?

ugly duckling syndrome

So... you are ugly?

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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="West-Coast-G"] Why are you so wise, and philosophical, and..stuff?tzar3

ugly duckling syndrome

So... you are ugly?

No, she use to be. I fail to see the connection, though.
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Morals are a code of beliefs regarding right and wrong.

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"A code of standards or ethics one chooses to live by". This was a test question on my Nursing Aide exam lol.

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#12 Maddy_K
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Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethicsBiancaDK
Ethics are different from morals. Ethics is the application of morals. Our english word morals comes from the Latin mos. Morals are just your base rules for what's right and wrong. They're personal. Ethics are more society's take on morals. To your question, no, it wasn't immoral in her view, but it would be immoral in others' views. Edit: Added a thought!
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#13 fiscope
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Welcome to philosophy, where nothing is concrete!

Morals are our society's views of what is right and wrong.

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#14 CyperWingdAngel
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"A code of standards or ethics one chooses to live by". This was a test question on my Nursing Aide exam lol.

Smoke89
so the old lady wouldn't be morally wrong ?
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#15 Theokhoth
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Welcome to philosophy, where nothing is concrete!

fiscope

If it isn't concrete then you're doing it wrong.

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[QUOTE="tzar3"]

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"] ugly duckling syndromeWest-Coast-G

So... you are ugly?

No, she use to be. I fail to see the connection, though.

Exploit her secrets, then.

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#17 Smoke89
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[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

"A code of standards or ethics one chooses to live by". This was a test question on my Nursing Aide exam lol.

CyperWingdAngel

so the old lady wouldn't be morally wrong ?

I don't really know.The nursing school at my university requires we have CNA certification so I just did it to have it.

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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethicsMaddy_K
Ethics are different from morals. Ethics is the application of morals. Our english word morals comes from the Latin mos. Morals are just your base rules for what's right and wrong. They're personal. To your question, no, it wasn't immoral in her view, but it would be immoral in others' views.

You could easily view it as i described it, i said nothing wrong. "Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") has three principal meanings. In its first, descriptive usage, morality means a code of conduct which is held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong. Morals are created and defined by society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience. An example of the descriptive usage could be "common conceptions of morality have changed significantly over time."
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I always thought of morals as personal beliefs of right/wrong, and ethics as public? *shrug*
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#20 Maddy_K
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[QUOTE="Maddy_K"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Morals could be viewn as societys take on ethicsBiancaDK
Ethics are different from morals. Ethics is the application of morals. Our english word morals comes from the Latin mos. Morals are just your base rules for what's right and wrong. They're personal. To your question, no, it wasn't immoral in her view, but it would be immoral in others' views.

You could easily view it as i described it, i said nothing wrong. "Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") has three principal meanings. In its first, descriptive usage, morality means a code of conduct which is held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong. Morals are created and defined by society, philosophy, religion, or individual conscience. An example of the descriptive usage could be "common conceptions of morality have changed significantly over time."

I don't know what you mean by "descriptive usage." I've never heard that term before. Plus, those are not the "three principal meanings" of mores or moralitas...I don't know where you got that from. Moralitas is neo Latin, not classical Latin. It has little to do with the carried-over concept. To the Romans, mores in the most common context of Latin texts meant "customs." I don't know how up you are on Ancient Mediterranean history, but traditions were everything to the Romans. I was just pointing out that what you said was mixed up. Morals come before ethics, not the other way around. Ethics is the study of or action on morals.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I always thought of morals as personal beliefs of right/wrong, and ethics as public? *shrug*

You're exactly right.
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[QUOTE="Maddy_K"][ I don't know what you mean by "descriptive usage." I've never heard that term before. Plus, those are not the "three principal meanings" of mores or moralitas...I don't know where you got that from. Moralitas is neo Latin, not classical Latin. It has little to do with the carried-over concept. To the Romans, mores in the most common context of Latin texts meant "customs." I don't know how up you are on Ancient Mediterranean history, but traditions were everything to the Romans. I was just pointing out that what you said was mixed up. Morals come before ethics, not the other way around. Ethics is the study of or action on morals.

You could view the term as static in definition, but it should not be the only definition that applies to it, when in descriptive usage (how we apply it), can have more than one criteria of correct application. And i did not put a timeframe on it, i never said society created morals, i said it could be viewn as societys take on morals, and for society to do that, morals would have to be there first
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="Maddy_K"][ I don't know what you mean by "descriptive usage." I've never heard that term before. Plus, those are not the "three principal meanings" of mores or moralitas...I don't know where you got that from. Moralitas is neo Latin, not classical Latin. It has little to do with the carried-over concept. To the Romans, mores in the most common context of Latin texts meant "customs." I don't know how up you are on Ancient Mediterranean history, but traditions were everything to the Romans. I was just pointing out that what you said was mixed up. Morals come before ethics, not the other way around. Ethics is the study of or action on morals.

You could view the term as static in definition, but it should not be the only definition that applies to it, when in descriptive usage (how we apply it), can have more than one criteria of correct application. And i did not put a timeframe on it, i never said society created morals, i said it could be viewn as societys take on morals, and for society to do that, morals would have to be there first

I didn't say it had a static meaning. Dear god, NO Latin word has one static meaning! I am talking from a modern standpoint on the definitions of morals and ethics. Your reply doesn't really have anything to do with what I said... You originally said that morals were society's views on ethics. It's the other way around. I still don't know what you mean with "descriptive usage." Morals and morality are both nouns, not adjectives. I was talking about the etymology of the term with the classical Latin, not when "morals" as a concept were created.
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[QUOTE="Maddy_K"] I didn't say it had a static meaning. Dear god, NO Latin word has one static meaning! I am talking from a modern standpoint on the definitions of morals and ethics. Your reply doesn't really have anything to do with what I said... You originally said that morals were society's views on ethics. It's the other way around. I still don't know what you mean with "descriptive usage." Morals and morality are both nouns, not adjectives. I was talking about the etymology of the term with the classical Latin, not when "morals" as a concept were created.

I see.
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#25 Maddy_K
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I see.BiancaDK
Ah, good.
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#26 vj02
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Moral values are the standards of good and evil,still morality varies from person to person ,society to society because every individual or society has it's own mindset.