Delta Vs. SEAL Vs. S.W.A.T.

Which one is more professional, and which one would win in a fight?

Which one is more professional, and which one would win in a fight?

VGCReporter

Delta Average, SEAL's slightly better and SWAT are police...Not combat trained soldiers.

I don't even know what Delta is, but in a fight between a S.W.A.T. force member and a S.E.A.L., the S.E.A.L. would likely win. The training S.E.A.L.s go through in insane.

Which organization would win in a fight? That would be entirely personified... Which member of a particular organization would be wildly speculative based on the personal abilities of the member in the fight.spazzx625

I don't even know what Delta is, but in a fight between a S.W.A.T. force member and a S.E.A.L., the S.E.A.L. would likely win. The training S.E.A.L.s go through in insane.

jamejame

The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D) — commonly known as Delta, Delta Force or the Combat Applications Group

Which one is more professional, and which one would win in a fight?

VGCReporter

SAS would win or C-12 but among those you named SEAL's in urban combat,Delta in Jungle/Desert combat

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Which one is more professional, and which one would win in a fight?

mattisgod01

Delta Average, SEAL's slightly better and SWAT are police...Not combat trained soldiers.

I was about to say the same thing about SWAT. Don't know how they made it into this convo lol

"Who would win" is a massive problem to quantify without knowing where the respective combatant is fighting, what rank he is and what role he plays within his respective organization, what physical condition he's in, whether or not he has a fully updated loadout and how much intelligence he possesses on his immediate enemies.

The last factor's especially important in modern day scenarios, as it's commonly noted to be the deciding fulcrum in almost any conflict, be it on the tactical or strategic level. The other two most important factors being technological level and, in the case of a strategic conflict, industrial might.

Well we gonna just count the SWAT out because they are not trained to be a combatant. As far as training then the SEALs team are better but the legacy we US Army Delta Forces will win def! To become a Delta you must first become a Green Beret (US Army Special Forces) and then you will sign up for Delta. So there you go, you decide who win.

SAS and Spetz GRU would be beat any of them.. Shadowhawk000

Isn't Spetz GRU Spetsnaz, a Russian special force? If so, then they're embarrasingly bad in combat :|

SAS and Spetz GRU would be beat any of them.. Shadowhawk000

As Ocelot would say, "Meow"

[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]SAS and Spetz GRU would be beat any of them.. Dystopian-X

As Ocelot would say, "Meow"

Spetznatz are nothing more than glorified bodyguards these days

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[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]SAS and Spetz GRU would be beat any of them.. spazzx625

As Ocelot would say, "Meow"

True, but in the event you did come across one its best to be prepared.

Australian Special Forces

Second to none.

In VS matches, I like to more or less pit the general ability of one faction vs the general abiility of the others. Sure, in a random fight between random soldiers, it's very uncertain as to who would win (though, to be honest, I think that in any encounter a SWAT guy gets his butt handed to him).

I say:

1. SEALS
2. Delta
3. SWAT

SWAT are skilled, but they are not military.

British SAS...

British SAS...

CBR600-RR

I've heard a lot about them? What about them?

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British SAS...

VGCReporter

I've heard a lot about them? What about them?

That they kick ass?

tbh I view the SEAL teams as more combat; theyre sent in to kill, destroy, and on occasion rescue.

Delta is well-trained, but they are more investigative. Sure, they can conduct raids and stuff like the SEAL teams, but theyre more about setting up contacts, establishing connections, doing recon, and getting in early. I think they are also given more autonomy as well; whereas SEALs are given a specific objective or mission, Delta seems to be given a "big picture" mission and given free reign to do stuff. This is based on a show I saw about Delta operators in Afghanistan and what little I have read.

SoI really cannot answer the question, as it depends on the scenario. If this is a versus fight, where a SEAL and a Delta start at opposite ends of a makeshift town and told to shoot eachother, I'd say the SEAL might win.

But if its about an objective, I think the Delta might win

SAS...
Counter terrorism, commando shock raids, assasinations, VIP protection etc.
These guys just do evreything. And they own at it :D

oh cmon, you guys are all living in the dark . . .

Instant Win.

(although in all honesty, think I'd give it to SEALs. and on the world spec-ops stage, SAS)

I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but several Green Berets and SEALs join SWAT teams when they leave the service. As the SEAL swim instructors in boot camp said, they basically have 2 choices of career when they leave the Navy: SWAT, or the Mob. :p

I'm too biased to add much of anything else (*cough cough* SEALs *cough*) so I'll just leave it there.

Well I would start with asking "Where are they fighting?" mountain/plains or desserts I would go with the Deltas without the shadow of the doubt. They do fare fairly well in urban areas, but these guys will chew you up if you opt to fight on thier field.

Jungle or lowlands (and in/near water ofcourse aswell) I would opt for the seals. Lighter armed then the Deltas, but if it is Jungle warfare or lowlands, the seals can be a freakin nightmare

Ironically the SWAT being non militery might have a decent chance in urban warfare, thier training is far from as good as both the militery Branches, but I do suspect they know a whole lot more about fighing in that kind of Urban Invioments, and while both Deltas and Seals do train in Urban combat, they are none too good, and both will usually avoid it if they can (And it is not due to civilian losses).

They are not trained to fight in the same kinds of envioments, and remove the place each is trained to fight in, and you will hurt thier effectiveness by alot.

Well I would start with asking "Where are they fighting?" mountain/plains or desserts I would go with the Deltas without the shadow of the doubt. They do fare fairly well in urban areas, but these guys will chew you up if you opt to fight on thier field.

Jungle or lowlands (and in/near water ofcourse aswell) I would opt for the seals. Lighter armed then the Deltas, but if it is Jungle warfare or lowlands, the seals can be a freakin nightmare

Ironically the SWAT being non militery might have a decent chance in urban warfare, thier training is far from as good as both the militery Branches, but I do suspect they know a whole lot more about fighing in that kind of Urban Invioments, and while both Deltas and Seals do train in Urban combat, they are none too good, and both will usually avoid it if they can (And it is not due to civilian losses).

They are not trained to fight in the same kinds of envioments, and remove the place each is trained to fight in, and you will hurt thier effectiveness by alot.

Maddie_Larkin

I don't really personally think that the SEAL or DELTA squads are as proffessional as SWAT, because SWAT are only sent in on unique situations, when the siutation is too hard for the regular officers to handle, that's when SWAT is sent in, when the situation is tough, and they need men to take it out in a fast and discreet manner. When are Delta sent in?

an unnamed team of covert operatives whoes named will never be known

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Well I would start with asking "Where are they fighting?" mountain/plains or desserts I would go with the Deltas without the shadow of the doubt. They do fare fairly well in urban areas, but these guys will chew you up if you opt to fight on thier field.

Jungle or lowlands (and in/near water ofcourse aswell) I would opt for the seals. Lighter armed then the Deltas, but if it is Jungle warfare or lowlands, the seals can be a freakin nightmare

Ironically the SWAT being non militery might have a decent chance in urban warfare, thier training is far from as good as both the militery Branches, but I do suspect they know a whole lot more about fighing in that kind of Urban Invioments, and while both Deltas and Seals do train in Urban combat, they are none too good, and both will usually avoid it if they can (And it is not due to civilian losses).

They are not trained to fight in the same kinds of envioments, and remove the place each is trained to fight in, and you will hurt thier effectiveness by alot.

VGCReporter

I don't really personally think that the SEAL or DELTA squads are as proffessional as SWAT, because SWAT are only sent in on unique situations, when the siutation is too hard for the regular officers to handle, that's when SWAT is sent in, when the situation is tough, and they need men to take it out in a fast and discreet manner. When are Delta sent in?

SWAT are very good at their job, but their job is to be police and handle police situations. SWAT's worst case scenario is having someone with an automatic weapon shoot at them, thats basically what Delta and SEALs would expect at the very least.

Hmm, I DO understand the premise of SWAT ^^ Deltaforce in newer timesis being sent it in US citicens of inttrest are being held hostage in hotspots, or just other countries. They share quite a few similarities with the SWAT, but they are not focused on Urban warfare.

They are atill being used as soldiers from time to time aswell ofcourse, but The last ten year it seems they have become more of a "retrive and extract" kind of deal...

They are also trained as goverment Assassins if the situation calles for it. But as I said, take away thier advantage of what they are trained for they will not have the skills to just "switch" to the new invioment

SWAT I sort of gave the black horse card, not because of the training, but because of thier armorment. of the 3 the SWAT has by far the worst weapons overall.

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Well I would start with asking "Where are they fighting?" mountain/plains or desserts I would go with the Deltas without the shadow of the doubt. They do fare fairly well in urban areas, but these guys will chew you up if you opt to fight on thier field.

Jungle or lowlands (and in/near water ofcourse aswell) I would opt for the seals. Lighter armed then the Deltas, but if it is Jungle warfare or lowlands, the seals can be a freakin nightmare

Ironically the SWAT being non militery might have a decent chance in urban warfare, thier training is far from as good as both the militery Branches, but I do suspect they know a whole lot more about fighing in that kind of Urban Invioments, and while both Deltas and Seals do train in Urban combat, they are none too good, and both will usually avoid it if they can (And it is not due to civilian losses).

They are not trained to fight in the same kinds of envioments, and remove the place each is trained to fight in, and you will hurt thier effectiveness by alot.

mattisgod01

I don't really personally think that the SEAL or DELTA squads are as proffessional as SWAT, because SWAT are only sent in on unique situations, when the siutation is too hard for the regular officers to handle, that's when SWAT is sent in, when the situation is tough, and they need men to take it out in a fast and discreet manner. When are Delta sent in?

SWAT are very good at their job, but their job is to be police and handle police situations. SWAT's worst case scenario is having someone with an automatic weapon shoot at them, thats basically what Delta and SEALs would expect at the very least.

SWAT are actually special forces, not regular polices, and they have a lot of cover and special equipment, so they should be expecting a lot.

Oh I also forgot FBI, I believe FBI is also up there, with delta and swat

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I don't really personally think that the SEAL or DELTA squads are as proffessional as SWAT, because SWAT are only sent in on unique situations, when the siutation is too hard for the regular officers to handle, that's when SWAT is sent in, when the situation is tough, and they need men to take it out in a fast and discreet manner. When are Delta sent in?

VGCReporter

SWAT are very good at their job, but their job is to be police and handle police situations. SWAT's worst case scenario is having someone with an automatic weapon shoot at them, thats basically what Delta and SEALs would expect at the very least.

SWAT are actually special forces, not regular polices, and they have a lot of cover and special equipment, so they should be expecting a lot.

Oh I also forgot FBI, I believe FBI is also up there, with delta and swat

After looking it up it looks like SWAT is just a commonly used term for a wide range of units who might not be of equal training or skill, so it makes the original question even hard to answer.

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SWAT are very good at their job, but their job is to be police and handle police situations. SWAT's worst case scenario is having someone with an automatic weapon shoot at them, thats basically what Delta and SEALs would expect at the very least.

mattisgod01

SWAT are actually special forces, not regular polices, and they have a lot of cover and special equipment, so they should be expecting a lot.

Oh I also forgot FBI, I believe FBI is also up there, with delta and swat

After looking it up it looks like SWAT is just a commonly used term for a wide range of units who might not be of equal training or skill, so it makes the original question even hard to answer.

Do you think that FBI can hold a candle to Swat?

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SWAT are actually special forces, not regular polices, and they have a lot of cover and special equipment, so they should be expecting a lot.

Oh I also forgot FBI, I believe FBI is also up there, with delta and swat

VGCReporter

After looking it up it looks like SWAT is just a commonly used term for a wide range of units who might not be of equal training or skill, so it makes the original question even hard to answer.

Do you think that FBI can hold a candle to Swat?

From what i've read, FBI also refer to their unit as SWAT...

Watchingpeople with no military experienceargue over which SF unit is the best is like watching little kids argue over whose dad would win in a fight.

Watchingpeople with no military experienceargue over which SF unit is the best is like watching little kids argue over whose dad would win in a fight.-TheSecondSign-

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[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]SAS and Spetz GRU would be beat any of them.. spazzx625

As Ocelot would say, "Meow"

Didn't you know? It's standard combat gear for them. You can't take down terrorists, without a trusty springboard.

They'd all kick my butt. I'm just glad they're on my side.

the entire thread "swat aren't military so would not stand a chance" is a farce. take it from someone who knows-each unit has it's own specific destination...and swat units are worldwide BETTER than navy commandos and other military elite units in counter-terrorism and close quarters combat.grape_of_wrath

I'm from Australia so not too familiar with who SWAT is exactly or how they operate, but here Military units don't get called out to police situations. So who exactly is SWAT?

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]the entire thread "swat aren't military so would not stand a chance" is a farce. take it from someone who knows-each unit has it's own specific destination...and swat units are worldwide BETTER than navy commandos and other military elite units in counter-terrorism and close quarters combat.mattisgod01

I'm from Australia so not too familiar with who SWAT is exactly or how they operate, but here Military units don't get called out to police situations. So who exactly is SWAT?

SWAT differs from police force to police force, state to state, country to country. It's not a fixed unit like the SAS, it's just a name given to people who have a certain job.Doctor-McNinja

Thats what i was getting a sense of after reading into it. So the original question needs to be more specific, but that was obvious from the start.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]the entire thread "swat aren't military so would not stand a chance" is a farce. take it from someone who knows-each unit has it's own specific destination...and swat units are worldwide BETTER than navy commandos and other military elite units in counter-terrorism and close quarters combat.mattisgod01

I'm from Australia so not too familiar with who SWAT is exactly or how they operate, but here Military units don't get called out to police situations. So who exactly is SWAT?